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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@Nandini

Thanks. Different accounts online seem to suggest that they were rivals only.

Another question - Who is Sagar Singh? Which queen's son was he? All accounts mention him also for joining Akbar but later, it's said he committed suicide out of guilt for his treachery.
He's often mentioned as brother of Shakti. Does it imply he was Sajjabai's son? Why has he not been shown in the serial yet? Or was Sagar Singh another name for little Vikram?

Sagar Singh's name always intrigues me!


Sagar Singh and Vikram Dev were different

both were Pratap's brothers
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@Nandini

Thanks. Different accounts online seem to suggest that they were rivals only.

Another question - Who is Sagar Singh? Which queen's son was he? All accounts mention him also for joining Akbar but later, it's said he committed suicide out of guilt for his treachery.
He's often mentioned as brother of Shakti. Does it imply he was Sajjabai's son? Why has he not been shown in the serial yet? Or was Sagar Singh another name for little Vikram?

Sagar Singh's name always intrigues me!


few days back i read lots of about Mewar & Pratap & all & i got this name Sagar Singh who joined Akbar but if he is brother of Pratap then in MP why he is not mentioned 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53
How come this show credited Humayun for establishing Mughal empire in India? Wasn't it Babur who was the originator of Mughal empire in India?

They showed it yesterday as if Humayun was the first Mughal to step on Indian soil! 😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: debasree04


few days back i read lots of about Mewar & Pratap & all & i got this name Sagar Singh who joined Akbar but if he is brother of Pratap then in MP why he is not mentioned 😕


Pratap had more then 20 brothers how many will they show
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

How come this show credited Humayun for establishing Mughal empire in India? Wasn't it Babur who was the originator of Mughal empire in India?

They showed it yesterday as if Humayun was the first Mughal to step on Indian soil! 😲



They are showing lot of hogwash where humayun is concerned

And some people think they are showing correct history😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#56
@Nandini

Yeah I laughed at Humayun and Mughal stuff in last episode! New history! 😆

They can't show all brothers of Pratap but should have shown the one who joined Akbar, and Sagar Singh is one.

Of late the show has been taking way too many "creative liberties".
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Posted: 12 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Skepblun

How come this show credited Humayun for establishing Mughal empire in India? Wasn't it Babur who was the originator of Mughal empire in India?

They showed it yesterday as if Humayun was the first Mughal to step on Indian soil! 😲



Ibrahim Lodi advanced against babur with 100,000 soldiers and 100 elephants; and though Babur's army had grown, it was still less than half the size of his opponents, possibly as few as 25,000 men. This was to be their main engagement, the First battle of Panipat, and was fought on 21 April 1526. Ibrahim Lodi was slain and his army was routed; Babur quickly took possession of both Delhi and Agra
The first major clash between the two sides was fought in late February 1526. Babur's son, Humayun (then aged 17), led the Timurid army into battle against the first of Ibrahim's advance parties
Hamayun only led d first clash n he wz only 17 at dt tym while in yesterday's epi hamayun wz so old dt he wz finding it hard to even walk properly 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada



They are showing lot of hogwash where humayun is concerned

And some people think they are showing correct history😆


I know Humayun wasn't the first one who established Mughal emperor in India. It was his father Babur but I got to read this :

Nasir ud-din Muhammad Humayun (Persian: ; OS 7 March 1508 AD - OS 17 January 1556 AD) was the secondMughal Emperor who ruled a large territory consisting of what is now Afghanistan, Pakistan, and parts of northern India from 1530-1540 and again from 1555-1556. Like his father, Babur, he lost his kingdom early, but with Persian aid, he eventually regained an even larger one. On the eve of his death in 1556, the Mughal empire spanned almost one million square kilometers.

He succeeded his father in India in 1530, while his half-brother Kamran Mirza, who was to become a rather bitter rival, obtained the sovereignty of Kabul and Lahore, the more northern parts of their father's empire. He originally ascended the throne at the age of 23 and was somewhat inexperienced when he came to power.

Humayun lost Mughal territories to the Pashtun noble, Sher Shah Suri, and, with Persian aid, regained them 15 years later. Humayun's return from Persia, accompanied by a large retinue of Persian noblemen, signaled an important change in Mughal court culture. TheCentral Asian origins of the dynasty were largely overshadowed by the influences of Persian art, architecture, language and literature. There are many stone carvings and thousands of Persian manuscripts in India from the time of Humayun.

Subsequently, in a very short time, Humayun was able to expand the Empire further, leaving a substantial legacy for his son, Akbar. His peaceful personality, patience and non-provocative methods of speech earned him the title 'Insn-i-Kamil (Perfect Man'), among the Mughals.


And coming to the part of creative liberties then it's accepted in modern days that CVs will modify few things of history as per the demand of story and TRP race. I said in some thread as well that we as a viewers should not expect everything to be truth. Look at d proportion of Actual History : : Fiction / Modification


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Posted: 12 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@Nandini

Yeah I laughed at Humayun and Mughal stuff in last episode! New history! 😆

They can't show all brothers of Pratap but should have shown the one who joined Akbar, and Sagar Singh is one.

Of late the show has been taking way too many "creative liberties".



Almost all joined Akbar 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#60
LOL! Indeed? All joined Akbar? 😆

Poor Pratap!

Wonder what Rajputs are proud of if they so easily used to surrender to foreign invaders!

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