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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---



😆Shruti...please re-read what you've written...simply bashing Saanjh for the heck of it, with no justification left whatsoever for Maya now, is amusing indeed..😆

<font size="3">If Saanjh doesn't see their hated, how can she want to ensure that the hatred remains?!?!?</font>😆😆



I think what she means is that when Arya were in love...saanjh used to invite herself into every situation...and now that arjun hates her...she doesn't bother
Edited by Beyhadfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Beyhadfan



I think what she means is that when Arya were in love...saanjh used to invite herself into every situation...and now that arjun hates her...she doesn't bother


What do u mean by she doesn't bother???...Saanjh has invited n single handedly brought Maya right into their house...😕😆...she knows Arjun hates Maya, but she's repeatedly pleading with him to bear with Maya for the baby...

So your argument fails...😆
Edited by ---Khushi--- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Beyhadfan



I think what she means is that when Arya were in love...saanjh used to invite herself into every situation...and now that arjun hates her...she doesn't bother


Saanjh doesn't want Arjun to hate Maya.

All she wants is the safety of her baby and for that she has accpeted a woman like Maya in her home which I personally find stupid and selfish to an extent.

But Saanjh is not deliberately creating trouble for Maya and Arjun coz there is nothing between them to create hatred...Arjun hates Maya because of Maya and not coz of Saanjh...Maya killed his mom , destroyed his family...Arjun hates her for that.

Arjun now knows what Maya's true nature is and to what extent she can go but Saanjh for her baby is turning a blind eye to Maya's true nature.

Again Maya is not a victim in this case in my opinion.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@anshvi what is there to create between them. Whatever that is needed to be created it is created. A girl's insecurity was pressed again and again, she turned to be monster. Her husband left her. Let alone leave her, he even went in jail and instigated her.
Maya is a criminal, but Saanjh had a major role to play in making her a criminal, though the crown goes to Jhanvi and then to Arjun.

Since the so strong hatred is there she dont have to go between Arjun and Maya, as there is no possibility of love between them.

Yes Maya survived Ashwin Mehrotra. She survived that monster. But what she couldnt survive and she couldnt fight was the colors that came on her. She knew black, not the colors. She was afraid of colors . Arjun gave her the colors, Jhanvi pushed her to colors and she was burned in the colors.

One more thing in POW the method used to trap a patriotic Indian soldier deprived of love and suffering torture of extreme magnitude was love. Yes in that desert of hatred Hussain became Sid's oasis and when he knew it was his country killed those innocent children in the Lahore Army school, he took arms against his country. He became a jihadi for love. He took the name of Sadiq for love. He used his friends to meet his purpose of terrorist attack. Yes he dies when the truth is known.

If an Indian soldier, who is trained to withstand extreme conditions, torture withers under torture and comes to harm his motherland for his beyhadh love of an innocent boy and can die the death of a terrorist.

What about a child who had never known love in her life. Who lost innocence way too early, you learnt the way to survive in the world the wrong way with no one to correct it at the right time, while each one pressed on the raw nerve again and again, threatening, terrifying she became what she is. Bad and Mad Maya.

I knew Sid will die. But he will establish the truth he believed in. He will die for the truth and POW established it beautifully, where by becoming a terrorist Siddnat Thakur killed Lala once and for all physically and emotionally, proving the truth to his love as India is the land where a Hindu, Muslim and Sikh sit together and eat. In records Sid was a terrorist, but if you remember my analysis I had put the question was he.

Here also I know Maya will die. She has to. But the death has to bring out the truth of what happened to her as a child. What a man called Ashwin did to her, that made her what she is. The girl who wanted love and experienced it first time from a man called Arjun. But she didnt knew how to handle it. She was afraid of losing it.
In her death Arjun's love has to shine through, erasing the darkness Ashwin had created in her. Because Maya is the proof of Arjun's love.
Edited by shruthiravi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@anshvi what is there to create between them. Whatever that is needed to be created it is created. A girl's insecurity was pressed again and again, she turned to be monster. Her husband left her. Let alone leave her, he even went in jail and instigated her.

Maya is a criminal, but Saanjh had a major role to play in making her a criminal, though the crown goes to Jhanvi and then to Arjun.

Since the so strong hatred is there she dont have to go between Arjun and Maya, as there is no possibility of love between them.

Yes Maya survived Ashwin Mehrotra. She survived that monster. But what she couldnt survive and she couldnt fight was the colors that came on her. She knew black, not the colors. She was afraid of colors . Arjun gave her the colors, Jhanvi pushed her to colors and she was burned in the colors.

One more thing in POW the method used to trap a patriotic Indian soldier deprived of love and suffering torture of extreme magnitude was love. Yes in that desert of hatred Hussain became Sid's oasis and when he knew it was his country killed those innocent children in the Lahore Army school, he took arms against his country. He became a jihadi for love. He took the name of Sadiq for love. He used his friends to meet his purpose of terrorist attack. Yes he dies when the truth is known.

If an Indian soldier, who is trained to withstand extreme conditions, torture withers under torture and comes to harm his motherland for his beyhadh love of an innocent boy and can die the death of a terrorist.

What about a child who had never known love in her life. Who lost innocence way too early, you learnt the way to survive in the world the wrong way with no one to correct it at the right time, while each one pressed on the raw nerve again and again, threatening, terrifying she became what she is. Bad and Mad Maya.

I knew Sid will die. But he will establish the truth he believed in. He will die for the truth and POW established it beautifully, where by becoming a terrorist Siddnat Thakur killed Lala once and for all physically and emotionally, proving the truth to his love as India is the land where a Hindu, Muslim and Sikh sit together and eat. In records Sid was a terrorist, but if you remember my analysis I had put the question was he.

Here also I know Maya will die. She has to. But the death has to bring out the truth of what happened to her as a child. What a man called Ashwin did to her, that made her what she is. The girl who wanted love and experienced it first time from a man called Arjun. But she didnt knew how to handle it. She was afraid of losing it.
In her death Arjun's love has to shine through, erasing the darkness Ashwin had created in her. Because Maya is the proof of Arjun's love.


Shruthi

I can never compare Sid with Maya

Maya is a cold blooded murderer...her past was tragic but she made her present.

All her actions were not selfless but selfish for her own gain...She killed Vandana coz she wanted to inflict pain and wanted her to suffer...She put Samay in Saanjh's life for her own gain...She tried to kill Her mom and Ayaan again for her own benefit.

Whatever she has done is for herself

Sid was suffering from Stolkholm syndrome and what he was doing he thought he was doing for humanity...he neglected his own family and his own sister for humanity..at least this is what he believed and the moment the truth came out he realised that he had been fooled by Lala..he realised his mistake and tried to repent but it was too late for him by that time.

Maya on the other hand still doesn't realise that the murders she committed were wrong.

She killed innocents in cold blood..Tulsi, Mansi...she hurt Arohi and Skmba ...all of this she did only for her own selfish reasons..either for her obsessive love or for her revenge.

I at least can't compare Maya with Sid...Maya is a cold blooded murderer who has no sense of realisation while Sid was a solider who suffered from Stolkholm syndrome and for whom it was too late to make amends coz time and destiny were not on his side.

Also you hold others majorly responsible for Maya's actions while give Maya a pass for her action while I hold Maya the most responsible for her actions and others who did commit mistakes but not severe enough for them to suffer so much at Maya's hands.

A difference of opinion and perception I believe.

P.S. - yes Maya will die...if She gets redeemed by the end remains to be seen coz as per Kushal the climax is emotional.
Edited by anshvi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
Time and again Saanjh's selfish behavior is been shown. Saanjh never has been shown to actually care for her family.
First her family was her father, mother n brother. Prem was killed by Samay n Maya both. It's the only murder where Maya shares the blame with someone. Rest all murders she did on her own. But Saanjh was shown to be knowing very well that both Samay n Maya were involved in the deed yet give Samay a clean chit so that Maya can be trapped.

Now her family is Arjun, Suman, Jhanvi. But she again gives shelter to a psychopathic criminal in the facade of having her "true Love's neeshani" her baby. 😕😆
It's very well known now , what Maya is capable of doing. She has done n number of murders n put the lives of innocent kids in danger, basically she's not only a threat to her family but a national threat now (poisoned chocolates can be purchased at any part of the country) But instead of handing her to police, she decided to give shelter to her 🤢
She is not appearing foolish but utterly pathetic to me..Just to protect an uncertain foetus , she's putting the lives of so many people on stake ???

Everyone learns from their own mistakes. If I compare Saanjh n Ayaan, Ayaan went to Maya to protect Arjun in rage.. he was impulsive..he had no evidence to prove his point. Later he tried to go against Maya using brains, collected evidence against Maya, recording her words... Yet he was impulsive n foolish to instigate her. This time he has decided to leave Arjun all alone n take Arohi away, which is not selfish but an intelligent move as per me. He learn from his mistakes of instigating Maya. Though he left his bro n bhabhi who have done a lot for him, he can't be actually blamed for this.

Butt Saanjh repeated the same mistake of giving a clean chit to a criminal for her selfish need. I really don't know if it's writing flaw or it's been shown intentionally. Because earlier when all were praising ArYa love story, I felt it's half baked n the emotional connect is missing. I felt it's just writing flaw but now I realize it was intentionally done to show that ArYa never had any strong foundation hence the broke up. So maybe Saanjh's behavior is also a part of the story.


Mayaa said Saanjh is hiding a lot of fire inside her, so someone has to burn... If this is the path the story is taking then I have to say Shruthi di your whole analysis is making so much sense now. From beginning to end. I was not understanding your analysis earlier abt Saanjh, but now it's kind of clear that Saanjh is a big hypocrite, not simply a flawed character.
Jhanvi's hypocrisy was out the day she bribed to kill Maya. She can forgive Ashwin but not Maya. N slowly Saanjh's hypocrisy is also coming out.
Though it's not allowed to compare MB characters with Beyhadh characters, but since the CVs only showed Maya with Gita n repeated compare Maya to Ravan, I guess they too are comparing the show with epics... Saanjh's character resemble Bhishma character now..Dunno how right I am Shruthi di...😆😆
Edited by CutiepieAD - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
@shruthiravi, you remember how Dusky asked promise from Samay? Dusky is very good at manipulating people. Everyone is ready to play any drama of the Dusky victim, whether it's going to Singapore, supposedly fearing Maya, disappearing late at night, whatever. Now Dusky doesn't intervene between Duffer and Maya. Now Dusky asks Duffer to behave well with Maya
The same was at the very beginning. As long as Duffer locked Maya in the elevator, stole tickets, a collection, smeared the cake on her face, Dusky said that Duffer should behave well. Exactly until Duffer said a few good words about Maya. Exactly until Dusky was sure that her damn toy Duffer, her dog is under her control

Duffer is the greatest illusion of Maya's life. Jhanvi and Duffer. One Jhanvi could not kill Maya. Duffer had already killed Maya. And if in the end Maya dies, then there is no light. This is a story about the uselessness of searching and fighting for light and life. This is the story of the victory of death over life. This is the story of Ashwin's victory
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Posted: 7 years ago
@aditi Ayan was not a hypocrite character. He was what he was. Mostly human. He learned from his mistake and went for the door instead of key. Removed the cause than the effect.
Remember I had told Ayan will travel Maya's path. He has travelled Maya's path. He was a collateral damage in the whole mess apart from Prem. But in the end he showed a different path when he walked away with Arohi. He became a father which was the right thing to do than brother, brother in law friend or anything. Becuase it was clearly shown Arjun's first priority was not Aarohi, it was Saanjh. When Maya told the person you love the most, Aarohi came second and Saanjh first. Why would a father risk his child with such a man.

Maya's life's biggest mistake that made her a criminal and a global threat was the fact that she attacked the effect than the cause. She clinged to Jhanvi as a child, atleast when Jhanvi married Ashwin again she should have sent away both husband and wife and told them she had nothing to do with them. She didnt.
Same with Arjun. When Saanjh hugged Arjun openly in holika night, she should have walked away leaving him. She should have asked him the question to choose between love and friendship as she is not understanding the boundaries of those. If he cant, then walk away. At that time I feel she might have got the support Suman, Prem and even Ayan to put break on Dusky-Duffer holier than though friendship. She again had the chance, when she saw Samay to warn Arjun that he is a risk to Saanjh. She knows him and has been her obsessive lover. Even at that time she would have got Suman and Prem by her side. But she held on to Arjun. After that the baby was there, but then her brain became hard to control and she went on a path of destruction.

And the major difference between Maya and Ayan is that Maya's brain got wired in childhood which takes a lot of time to change. It needs constant support and care if it has to be changed and it needs to be done at the right time, which didnt happened.
Ayan on the other hand had a normal childhood and adulthood, so he could change the wirings of his brain based on the situation and he decided to relish what he has that is his child.

Arjun also didnt had normal childhood and one of the major flaws of his adulthood is that improper childhood. But Dusky had the best childhood and she should have been the path breaker, but till this point I had not seen anything of Prem on this girl in real sense.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Laska when Maya is bad and mad everyone is with duffer. But when Maya is good, Duffer is alone. There is no one with him. He is on the top, alone😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
Duffer & Dusky share one common characteristic, perhaps that is why they have ended up together in life!
When Maya was mad & bad-earlier in S2- Arjun was supporting her even though Dusky was pleading him to get rid of Maya as she harmed Ayaan & others!
But Arjun was unmoved for his love for bandar & turning point came when Samay's links with Maya irritated him & then bandar died!

Now, there is no change in Maya! She is still mad & bad! But Dusky has become a duffer as the original Duffer is calling himself just Arjun!
He is ofcourse not the same old "Maya's kutta" called Arjun, then! But a man very much standing on his own legs! It is now his turn to beg & plead his duffer wife to get rid of mad and bad Maya!
But Saanjh is hellbent on doing a duffer , as it is her turn to hanker for her own 'bandar'! She is ready to do anything for her 'bandar' like what her husband did, when he was Maya's kutta!

Dusky is the new 'cimba' trying to drink poisoned milk, knowingly or unknowingly!
The dog puppy suffered but survived!
The human version of ' new puppy' of Mr. Sharma may even suffer when the snake bites her but hopefully her good deeds might help her to survive this ordeal & keep living her life!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago

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