Dance of Time and Illusion from Part 101 to page 40 - Page 15

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

See this woman expect arjun to save her.once he saves her she tells big dialogues I should go away from you

Check the clothes she's wearing at the time of both dialogues

Expects Arjun to save her- the orange and blue one

Tells Arjun to go away- black and white that also has the small matter of a bomb with it, courtesy Maya.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

How does Maya control people. It is physical control. Cameras and all other physical control points including gundas. Yesterday episode proved what saanjh does.mind control

And there are plenty of instances of Maya using mind control to get her job done- she plays on Arjun's emotions by attempting suicide and then trying to douse Jhanvi with petrol, she uses words to control and mold Samay, she uses words to convey to the outside world than Arjun is a wife beater and abuser.

Yes, physical threats are used by Maya, but she's an equal pro with words

@shruthiravi, exactly. Remember Dusky was going to Singapore? What game? Such spectacale! She knew that someone will tell Duffer that she leaving, she knew he will come to stop her. This lies, which is obvious even to the child, and she confess in love to him, and most importantly, she does it being forced so this looks to Duffer, but all this was done intentionally. She forced/lead Duffer to this point. Then at the wedding, she leaves just such way and when Duffer surely will stops her. After this sob song, destroying everything that could be. Right at the wedding Dusky destroyed and set fire to this marriage from the very moment when she come. Dusky does this every time. Constantly

@laska someone does things for dusky. 90 percent God and dusky knows how to play victim. Maya break glass in open and dusky cut photo in private. Dusky in public space is something but dusky alone is a different thing. She questions God. Maya thanks God when she is alone in season 1.Dusky makes a hungama to go to mautritius.Dusky make everyone believe justice for ayan. Moment she get proof rush to show Maya bad and mad to arjun. In childhood vm didn't manage arjun. It was dusky. Arjun madness arjun ka bachpan.

@shurthi as you said shurthi VM's blessings has to take place..and you are right about it. i felt that maya is now became vulnerble😕 i can tell arjun became her weakness for sure in hospital in scene where she was watching arjun she remembered how she ignored arjun's pain by thinking about only herself..but then suddenly maya's mind took over her..she realized they're fooling her..ayaan if you're little smart enough..notice this b'coz in future you can use this weakness of maya very well..😉 i think portyal of both maya's love and sanjh's love should be not adresse like obsessed love vs selfless love..but is something like love of weakness vs love of strength..right now we are about see maya's weakened side..25th august ko Ganesh chaturthi hai..i just want that day Ganesha will enter in life of whom? saajun? or maya?? maya once told ganesha even you can't come b/w me and arjun..he didn't came as per maya asked..her child died b'coz maya wanted no one to come b/w them..the child was blessings from ganesha to maya which she didn't got.b'coz of some of her own obsessed love..she has to realise this all..just for once if she realized this all and ask ganesha to join her side..she needed him very most..but will he join her..??

Originally posted by: FactFictionMyth

@shurthi as you said shurthi VM's blessings has to take place..and you are right about it. i felt that maya is now became vulnerble😕 i can tell arjun became her weakness for sure in hospital in scene where she was watching arjun she remembered how she ignored arjun's pain by thinking about only herself..but then suddenly maya's mind took over her..she realized they're fooling her..ayaan if you're little smart enough..notice this b'coz in future you can use this weakness of maya very well..😉 i think portyal of both maya's love and sanjh's love should be not adresse like obsessed love vs selfless love..but is something like love of weakness vs love of strength..right now we are about see maya's weakened side..25th august ko Ganesh chaturthi hai..i just want that day Ganesha will enter in life of whom? saajun? or maya?? maya once told ganesha even you can't come b/w me and arjun..he didn't came as per maya asked..her child died b'coz maya wanted no one to come b/w them..the child was blessings from ganesha to maya which she didn't got.b'coz of some of her own obsessed love..she has to realise this all..just for once if she realized this all and ask ganesha to join her side..she needed him very most..but will he join her..??

a VM should be made on this 😉 on song maya asking Lord ganesha "Don't Let Me Down"

Somehow Maya made it as either Arjun or Ganesha! This is her precise problem!
If she goes back to Ganesha, giving up Arjun, her estranged husband might even come back to her running, once her true friend starts helping her again!!
After all,it was Ganesha who set it up for Maya with Arjun, in the very first scene of the show!

Will Maya give up her obsession called, Arjun? In fact that should be her redemption, also!
But, as per one of JW's recent IV, 'Arjun's pyar is her redemption', she said! How can that be?

@factfictionmyth Maya love is her junoon.meaning weakness. If u see in season 1 how does ashwin exploit her.jhanvi.her beyhadh love for jhanvi.She could have thrown out ashwin once and all from her life if she had let go of jhanvi. Post marriage arjun took that place. And this is what saanjh exploits.she knew Maya won't kill arjun because Maya loved arjun. Saanjh had this knowledge and used it to buy rajiv.many times she created this insecurity in Maya so that she falls into darkness because love had pushed Maya to darkness. It is better now she goes leaving jhanvi and arjun and deal with her darkness alone in the absence of love.let her be alone and let her go back to her one and only friend and listen to him. I still remember when Maya kept arjun hand over her head the diya in front of Ganesh extinguished. Arjun cannot be her God. He cannot show her light because he doesn't have light with him. Only madness.

@fernandes can we stop discussing iv please. I have requested previously also to limit discussion to episodes. Coming to ur point yes arjun or Ganesha is Maya problem. Actually both has their place. If u keep them like that no issue. Only when limits are crossed in relation problem happens.

@shruthiravi, shizo notebook😃 Duffer didn't accept VM, and VM always had Dusky. Dusky wanted Duffer to accept VM, but she always just ordered him to do it - remember, apologize to aunt. It was never about accept VM, and solving the problem itself, it was always just for visibility, for VM, but in fact Duffer always has only and only Dusky and no one else in his life, even ayan was always on this edge, because there always stays problem with VM and Ayan's mother and this word "sautela"

Guys again typing from mobile. Hence short post.Please give mother of the millennium award to jhanvi.What dialogues. You are not my daughter. Saanjh is my daughter. Accept it Maya you are not jhanvi daughter. You are not hypocrite.You are ashwin daughter. Daughter of bad ashwin and you are bad. You wanted to die once for this mother. The father u hated bought u out. Yes child Maya loved jhanvi and hated ashwin. But Maya built f and c because of ashwin. She rose because of her hatred for ashwin. It was not love of jhanvi that drove her but hatred for ashwin. Go for it Maya. Yes ur love is a problem. It is beyhadh.show ur hatred. I was totally happy when u told today to arjun ur wish is my command.if u want to die with dusky I will give that. For once dusky funda Maya won't kill arjun didn't work. Maya was willing to kill him. Go for it Maya. Go for dusky power. She can't do anything on her own. She needs arjun. She has not existence without arjun. The hand that left u take that hand. The one who left u search find and destroy. Ur bad.there is no need to put the facade of goodness. Be completely bad.

@shruti what I don't understand is how did Maya (or Maya's goons) managed to put the bomb?
They surely did not kept Saanjh with a bomb all the time, also could not put it when Arjun was fighting the goons. Then when exactly the bomb was setup?