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Sana

@AlexP927

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Posted: 7 years ago

#151

i found today's episode (despite the obvious spoilers frm segments) to be quite interesting...one ws the annoying revelation from duffer of the millenium, arjun...lets not say anything abt him cuz i hav nthn good to say, root of all problems in beyhadh world is him n his big ego n his dumb decisions...n he ws telling maya what love is...ha!

second, ws funny bcuz of my reaction to sanjh...for a second i became hopeful again lik oooh shez not so happy wid arjun confessing n said that dosti ending wala dialogue..n i thought mayb after sending maya to jail she'll help her...buuut.. that hope ddnt last long...the second she said maya tum aisa nahi karsakti so arrogantly, my theory bubble popped back to reality...well...that ddnt last long..as always

third, as always, the most intriguing character...maya...today i rlly jus wanted to reach out of the screen grab her, hug her n tell her arjun is not worthy of you. Maya is not one to complain or rant...throughout the whole series thats one thing shes never done...complain. but yesterday she did, not full on complaining but for the first time she tried to explain herself, for maya it really ws a more painful slap frm arjun wen he said i love you to saanjh bcuz for her everything shes done atleast has a purpose, her love for arjun, her actions eat her up n she hates the evil in her but if its for her love , woh har hadh par karlegi aur arjun ne uss pyaar, uss junoon ko gaali di hai..uss ne jo bhi kiya arjun k liye kiya n the man wnt evn take moral responsibility...n by confessing to saanjh he's made her complete evil...n her actions meaningless...

i loved hw she forms a fist in anger n says hw cud u bring saanjh in between us after all she did, n hw she rmmbrs all the vows. yes yes maya is bad and mad...but in love...wt are u arjun sharma...nthn but a man wid big words n no action...

oh n lastly...jhanvi...//sigh// i said it bfr as well...this woman is childish...evn in s1 bfr maya had cut her wrist, jhanvi had said the most insensitive thing to her knowing full well why she is so cold and reserved n why she hates ashwin...sometimes i feel lik jhanvi dsnt know the whole truth of what happened...she ws always late to come to maya, always coming to save her from ashwin after he ws done beating her...rmmbr the janam patri thing during the arya wedding...both ashwin n maya were alarmed but not jhanvi...she ddnt evn know wat ws in it...n this woman who knows nothing...has been taken care of by her daughter for 15 years n plus the 3 years she ws paralyzed says saanjh is her daughter n says she took better care of her...ok mayb if it ws a better mother lik suman saying it, i'd b okay wid maya having to hear that shit but sorry...not from a mother lik jhanvi for whom her love ws more important than her own blood...n its more painful n annoying to watch bcuz jhanvi n maya actually had a very strong bond as mother n daughter...but oh nooo...jhanvi jus has to be annoying...

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Sana

@AlexP927

Beginner

Posted: 7 years ago

#152

Originally posted by: manya_roy
@shruti what I don't understand is how did Maya (or Maya's goons) managed to put the bomb?
They surely did not kept Saanjh with a bomb all the time, also could not put it when Arjun was fighting the goons. Then when exactly the bomb was setup?

i think this wud come under the 'logic please, cvs' list...lets jus say, they forced or threatened her to change clothes (😆😆) n thn strapped the bomb on her n thn tied her back to the chair jus lik bfr...n maya always had the locket, so the bomb plan ws always there? if she tries to run away, blow her up something lik that? i think wen arjun came n fought goons she did hav the bombs strapped in thats why she ran immediately after arjun frees her n the goon ddnt bother chasing her n jus told maya she got away... i think since they wanted to finish it fast bfr the extension they jus sped it up wdout much details than wuts necessary😆

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Fernandes43

@Fernandes43

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#153

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@fernandes can we stop discussing iv please. I have requested previously also to limit discussion to episodes. Coming to ur point yes arjun or Ganesha is Maya problem. Actually both has their place. If u keep them like that no issue. Only when limits are crossed in relation problem happens.

Ok, I will!
Since episodes are anything but logical, what to say when makers are unabashedly dumping garbage!
Jhanvi's recovery after her swooning & treatment for that, could be a medical miracle as she got back now, both voice & gait!
Well, Maya left hospital to find out, the whereabouts of duo who escaped her custody!
The high tech Madam Don didn't have to bother much about it, because she planted GPS too on Saanjh! God, what all could she plant? First Samay in her life, then Bombs & GPS on her body! In stead, she could have ended Saanjh's life long back, without needing to kill so many, unnecessarily! Maya,you aren't smart!

Coming back to logic (which has no meaning in this show!) if Maya's arrival on spot is explained with some credibility, how Jhanvi's arrival to the rendezvous (with her current & former daughters!!) is going to be explained?
Like Maya did it earlier once after bandar's death, Jhanvi too ran away from hospital bed -only to demonstrate her walking skills & reach all the way up to terrace- just in time, to slap her daughter, putting even her handicapped hand to the best use of it, after a long time!!

Mayajaal hai! Sab Mayajaal!

Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

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Posted: 7 years ago

#154

@manya Maya has some help available. Who we dont know. Reason how did she get those goons to take Saanjh in the first place. Mere iraade naa jaano tho acha hai. So something is out there which Maya is not showing. Then she got a locket also, which has remote control. How did she get it. I cant dismiss that has blind logical miss, there is more to it is my feel, but I cant understand who wants to help Maya.

@Alex Maya has become bad and mad. She doesnt have anything to lose. So I want her to be bad. See everyone wanted to save Arjun from Maya's clutches. Everyone believed if Saanjh is near Arjun Arjun is safe. Nothing will happen to Arjun. Maya has come between Arjun and Saanjh. Maya has snatched Arjun from Saanjh. She will destroy Arjun's life. Now Maya is arrested. Arjun is with Saanjh. Everyone happy. Maya has gone. They got what they wanted. I just want to see if Arjun is safe. Will Maya go for the kill.

Because if today Arjun loves Dusky what was he doing with Maya earlier. What did he want from maya. Money, a doormat wife who will allow him to drink and spend time with so called special friend. Or did he wanted her body. When he got that the heady feeling gone.

See with yesterday episode it looks Arjun is like Ashwin or Rajiv. But Arjun is not that. Arjun cannot be Ashwin, Arjun cannot be Rajiv. But who is Arjun. If that has to come out Maya has to become Ashwin's daughter. Bad and mad in real sense going to destroy Arjun. Because she killed both Ashwin and Rajiv, why should she spare Arjun. Marriage doesnt bind her, nor that stupid 7th vow which told marriage is about life blah blah.

World wanted to hear Ashwin the man, not Maya the child. Reason they were not affected by Ashwin, only Maya the child was. Ashwin was good to them. Vandana could call him Ashwin bhai saab. The world that heard Ashwin has to see Ashwin, so that they understand the cry of that little girl.

Maya tells if Arjun doesnt come back even Maya cannot save him. Yes Maya cannot, only truth can.

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DeadShot

@DeadShot

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#155

guess what..Dufsky fans are now happy😆 at least for now..i just only wanted to say about jhanvi this it was not sanjh who nearly died for you when ashwin thrown you river..its your maya who jump in river to save you no matter if she know swimming or not..now i feeling jhanvi is doing all this drama on some kind of hidden purpose..don't know what it is but sure..that hidden purpose is relted to ashwin..

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Y12345

@Y12345

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#156

@shruti: I too feel that Arjun is like Ashwin. He is slowly showing similar characteristic, even though some facts/situations are different. And Saannjh is like Jhanvi, to some extent.

Een though Maya is going to jail, I feel that some twist will come up. Saanjun cannot be endgame, the makers promised us something dark and different, so I think that Maya will once again be a fighter.. and emerge victorious, a survivor.

And those people saying that maya should be punished blbala, and then some saying that saanjh/arjun dumb squad are not saints either thus they already had their share of punishment when prem -vandy died etc, but is that logic applied to Maya as well? She lost Arjun, her mum, her company, her money

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

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Posted: 7 years ago

#157

@factfictionmyth I will never forget the scene where Maya jumps in river crying Maa irrespective of she not knowing swimming, neither I will forget the scene where Maya cries to Ganesha save Maa and punish me. I did all crimes. Also the way she dragged Jhanvi out that day, breaking the glass, injuring her hand, she took her mother to the hospital. It's a thriller, so some things have to be open.

@Y12 Arjun has the traits of Ashwin and Rajiv, but still Arjun has to be Arjun. Coming to Saanjh she is Vandana's beti, Jhanvi's beti. She is happy happy. Vandana's beti walk into the life of a married man even if the child doesnt want her and impose herself on him, so that he accepts her, jhanvi's beti well be a doormat to the husband, cry bachao bachao dont do anything, abla nari, allow husband to do whatever he wants, if he wants to drink drink, if he doesnt want a stable job so be it etc etc..in the whole funda where is Suman and Prem's beti. Most importantly where is Prem's beti. She is nowhere. Because being Prem's beti wont give her Arjun. That's why she shaked hands with Samay who killed Prem. But Vandana's beti and Jhanvi's beti can get Arjun. And in the end that is what matters. Who wants truth. Sab Maya hai.

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#158

This story in my opinion is not about Maya's struggles or her survival

She from a victim has turned into a criminal

Other characters committed mistakes and paid hefty price and all of them suffered because of Maya..They became Maya's victims and Maya became a criminal

Maya today has lost Arjun because of her own fault...She framed him in a fake murder case after murdering his mom and destroying his life

Maya lost his company not because anyone else snatched it away from her..It was because she became so obsessed that she forgot about everything else even her own company and wanted to destroy everything.

Maya lost her mom because she tried to murder her not once but twice...She has gone to the dark side so much so that even when her mom got hospitalized she didn't want to stay by her side but wanted to spend time with Arjun

The makers have put across the intended message strongly in my opinion, if love turns to obsession then it destroys everything...Maya destroyed everything and even herself in the process.

Yesterday also she was willing to kill Arjun...she is still not realizing that love means to let go, love doesn't mean to destroy but to protect.

There can be no redemption for her coz she herself is not looking for redemption

Her obsession made her forget everything even her once friend Ganesha

Since the story has extended I am sure that Maya will be back to seek revenge from Arjun and co.

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anshvi

@anshvi

Sparkler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#159

Shruthi

Vandna might have been selfish as a mother because she feared that Maya was not a right choice for Arjun but she was a good mother who cared for Arjun deeply

But claiming that she was a woman who entered Arjun's life forcefully and she was bad I disagree with it

If we take into consideration what you are saying that every step mom of this world will be a bad woman and bad mother which is not the case.

Vandana entered Arjun's life to take care of a 6 year old...she loved him like her own son and waited patiently for Arjun to accept her which he did too.

She might not have been a good mother in law (although all her claims did prove correct) but she was a good mother for sure in my opinion.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

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Posted: 7 years ago

#160

@anshvi the question is about Arjun's choice. Does he have a choice. As a child he was not given a choice. Whether he wanted Vandana as his mother. As an adult his choice of taking a wife is proven wrong. So what is Arjun, what are his decisions. Always wrong. I will repeat the question. Is Arjun always wrong. Because Maya sends him to VM, Arjun says sorry, so whatever he felt as 6 year old was just his illusion. Now Arjun goes to Dusky, so whatever he felt for Maya again a perception and illusion. Whatever Arjun feels is Maya, just his perception which is wrong. At this point it looks that way. He is a man with no independant mind. Duffer. Is he duffer.

Vandana had taken care of Arjun. I dont refute that. She anyday is far better a mother than Jhanvi who didnt protect child Maya. But then she didnt give space to Arjun to make his decisions. The problem is that. Arjun the individual and independent decisions.

And love is letting go. When has Saanjh let go of Arjun. She does it in dialogues, not once in action. But let us leave that aspect there as we disagree on that point.

Love is let go, and I want to feel that letting go from Prem's daughter. I want to see Prem's beti which I am not seeing. I was expecting Prem's beti from Prem's death but I see Vandana's beti, now Jhanvi's beti also with that arrogant smile, who doesnt raise a finger to fight for herself and wants Arjun to save her. I see the abla nari. I dont see Prem's beti in action whom Prem has taught how to swim, how to fight against the tide and how to let go the right way in action.

At this point I see Ashwin and Rajiv in Arjun who has married Maya who before marriage claimed in a pub get a rich girl, almost drove her to suicide, who didnt wanted to reduce her madness, who had relation with her, who wanted to move to her luxurious apartment ( all this are dialogues by him) who became CEO of a company without much effort and who wanted another woman also in his life, and who took the hand of his madness leaving his pregnant wife. I wanted to see the man who didnt expose where he was at night and took the blame of copyright stealing and got fired. That was the Arjun Sharma Maya respected. That was the Arjun Sharma I also respected. Not this man.

Yes whatever Maya has lost is because of her, her fear, her insecurities and most importantly her love which was her junoon. So let her leave that and reclaim whatever she has lost. She is capable of fighting another war. She doesnt have anything to lose. She has lost everything in the name of love. Beyhadh love. She doesnt know love and that was her problem always. So let her do what she knows best. Hatred. When she hates everything it will be better for her, because she knows the language of hatred which Ashwin had taught her very well. Let her speak that language.

Coming to step mom, I analyze the character the way it is presented, it is not universal law or something. And this analysis which is with respect to just beyhadh need not be made universal law or assumption or my feeling on anything. I dont make judgements.

I have seen a show " Meri Bhabi" where Supriya Pilaonkar had played a step mom. What a character that was and what a wonderful bonding saas-bahu shared in it. It was a very beautiful feel good show. But alas it didnt get the required TRPs and shut down in about a year.

So was the bonding of Dr Dayal and Durga in EHT. What a beautiful bonding that was which every daughter would love to get from her father and Dayal gives to Durga even being not her real father. And how he plays a father figure to Dev giving him the bitter pill first but then when he come realizing who Durga is, he gives a heartfelt hug. It was a very beautiful scene between Dev and Dayal. Not a single dialogue but both the men knew what is the truth.

Love doesnt need language. When love speaks, heart sees it. Unfortunately my heart has not seen Saanjh's love, but only her obsession which is camouflaged in wonderful dialogues.

While my heart did see Maya's attempt to love, but didnt know the language of love and she messed up between language of love and hatred and ended up losing everything.

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