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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi i came across your thread a while back and i think that it was around about the time that most wanted Saanhj to be the 1 who would be able to find out who the real Maya is. at that time i had no interest in Saanhj being the centre of anything and put your thread down to being another saanhj thread. bt even then i loved your writing and how the members who commented here conducted themselves.

i then stopped watching coz of I just dnt like clingy woman and mad maya was a total bore when she was sick in love with Arjun. bt i should still come on the forum looking for a proper discussion and this thread is the best on the forum.

The last week or so the episodes have been amazing. since the baby died i feel like the Maya from season 1 came back. her madness, her crimes all came full circle for me with the baby dying( if it's true though). S2 her conniving-ness came through bt after a very long time i saw her looking at a situation with clarity and seeing things as is. bt the madness is still there waiting to come out.

i have enjoyed her killing/ attempted killing spree. even though i felt bad for ayaan her driving over him was very cool. it was bloody, savage, reckless- just like all the color she allowed in her life. if we compare it to Panda's death- that death was scary, quiet, clean and nearly perfect. these 2 shows the state of control of her mind when committing the murders. i wish that panda's death was more bloody though she was terribly annoying for half the show. but her gaining back control with Mata's death who symbolizes a mother/ parent in the show is apt coz with her father she probably lost control when she killed him. and now she has gained control of herself though panda's death.

i dnt even know wat phase this. bt i feel that this should be phase 4. coz phase 1 was maya in control, S2 out of control,S3 her crimes coming out in front of arjun.

now we should be in the 4th phase bt i dnt know wat to expect. maya acting crazy on the swing annoys me. i like the in control maya.

Since the time the show started only Maya's mad and bad self was being investigated and shown. this phase i want the real Arjun, Saanhj and even Ayaan to come out. arjun i have no clue who he is. saanhj the hypocrite must see her reflection. with her being engaged to her duffer i want her to know how it feels when a 3rd person comes in btw. if the rumors are true we gona have a "twin maya" i want arjun to ran to that maya and behave with her how he behaved with saanjh whilst he was married to real maya.

Ayaan for me has been a surprise as to how he has always managed to see Maya for wat she is. i want to know more ab this character.

as for maya"s death scene lol i liked that arjun slapped her abit she deserved it. bt that girl so played him. after having her head slammed like that how in the world did she get up. i mean she seemed to have dragged him to another room lol.



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Posted: 8 years ago
I completely agree with @fernandes, if it is a murder case the body would have to go for post mortem, whether death sentence is given or not. But post mortem toh bohot door ki baat hai, what I dont understand is when police came to check, who exactly called them, and they must have checked her pulse as well as heart beat, so if maya has a dead body, how is she alive??
One thing is for sure Arjun did not killed Maya. There is gap between the scene where he is choking her in her bedroom and then we directly see them in their living room falling down and then Maya's so called death.
Edited by manya_roy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: manya_roy

I completely agree with @fernandes, if it is a murder case the body would have to go for post mortem, whether death sentence is given or not. But post mortem toh bohot door ki baat hai, what I dont understand is when police came to check, who exactly called them, and they must have checked her pulse as well as heart beat, so if maya has a dead body, how is she alive??

One thing is for sure Arjun did not killed Maya. There is gap between the scene where he is choking her in her bedroom and then we directly see them in their living room falling down and then Maya's so called death.

When it is Samay, truth will be out, like Maya ka neck-bites!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Exactly Fernandes, death sentence is in rarest of cases. It is not enough the murder happened, it has to be premeditated for a very selfish motive to get death sentence. Also as you rightly said post mortem is needed and cause of death needs to be ascertained. Let us not look at promo. Promo they may not show exactly.

Like for Arjun-Maya wedding promo was Arjun-Maya taking pheras around a pyre, though Ashwin's body falls in the pyre in the epi it was not pheras around the pyre.
Also the current promo of Arjun bringing Maya to a room decorated for babies didnt play out in epi though in Maya FB it comes.

Also CVs didnt show Ashwin last rites or Samay last rites but Prem's last rites were shown.

Ashwin's post mortem happened as the inspector revealed it was not heart attack & syringe attack happened on his body! So, Ashwin is dead & he won't return in this show, at least in current time line!
Samay is a mystery & anything is possible! And CVs did not bother with Vandana's last rites too!
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Posted: 8 years ago
Ok I went and watched the episode once again. So here are the additions. Maya says she knows Arjun will come but when he comes it will be very late. Now Maya dresses in her season 1 avatar. All her colors removed.
The fun here is VM had told when Maya was wearing white everything was fine. When Maya wore colors all problems started. Saanjh tells VM marriage has happened. You cannot remove mangal sutra, you cannot erase sindoor.

I had put in the analysis earlier a married woman removes color from her, when her husband dies or equivalent to dead. That's what has happened. Symbolically Maya killed Arjun before Arjun pushing Maya.

She came in white in front of him, it meant you are dead. A dead man is killing her. So her death is an illusion symbolically.

And she tells without me your story is incomplete. 7th vow is broken. Till last moment Maya loved Arjun beyhadh, now the one who is coming back there wont be any love. Because she herself told Arjun is her biggest mistake and he too told she is his mistake. So it is hatred now.

Then they slip on the marbles and fall. It was also symbolic. Her death or her hitting that table is because of those pebbles that constitute her crimes. She lost Arjun because of her past as we see him pushing her backwards. In other words, Arjun had given her life by putting colors on her. She thought she will get colors with him. But her past made even him push her towards the darkness, towards death, towards lack of colors which ended her.

Arjun can be saved only if colors come back to Maya. Colors has to be given to her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@kavya agreed he was drunk. But kuch tho yaad hona chahiye. What to do. Sharma men tellt truth when drunk, sharma men misbehave when drunk and they have alchohol as excuse for everything.😆😆
@Sanidab Saanjh will reach the real Maya, she has to or I would say she will be forced to as to save Arjun that will be the only way. Yes Ayan I am also looking forward to. Instead of Arjun munda, I would like to see Ayan for some time and Sumeet has been doing great in all shades of Ayan.Yes it is 4th. In season 1 we saw a Maya who was victim, season 2 victim and tormentor, season 3 tormentor, cycle is complete and we have gone to season 1 but it will be played different way this time.

@manya CVs played with our brains very well yesterday. It was visually deceiving .

@fernandes VM we cannot tell. They might give.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Yes for Maya it came full circle. But yes it is intriguing. The same way it was Ayaan manhandled her. Coz when we were first shown the scene it looked like Ayaan had forced himself on her. That was again Maya's truth and here Arjun killing her is also her truth. It had looked like Ayaan ripped her dress but that was a deliberate action on Maya's part. Only time will tell I suppose but Arjun is right as well. Whether he really murdered her or not her death will be on him. He has killed the bond that held them together, not by killing her or calling it quits but when he failed to understand her love for him. Had he seen her beyhadh pyaar he could have made an attempt to help her. He knew he was the cure for her madness but a cure is bitter and heals you. Not like poison that tastes sweet but consumes you. Not sure if I am making sense here 😆 Arjun should have been that bitter cure for her. Again here I dont intend to claim that Maya would have become all right but at least one could be given benefit of doubt.
But I wonder till when will Saanjh fight Arjun's battles? Everyone felt Saanjh is right for Arjun but I say he was never ever right for her 😆 I am feeling sorry for Ayaan, Saanjh and her family. They have to go through this ordeal for no fault of theirs
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@kavya agreed he was drunk. But kuch tho yaad hona chahiye. What to do. Sharma men tellt truth when drunk, sharma men misbehave when drunk and they have alchohol as excuse for everything.😆😆

@Sanidab Saanjh will reach the real Maya, she has to or I would say she will be forced to as to save Arjun that will be the only way. Yes Ayan I am also looking forward to. Instead of Arjun munda, I would like to see Ayan for some time and Sumeet has been doing great in all shades of Ayan.Yes it is 4th. In season 1 we saw a Maya who was victim, season 2 victim and tormentor, season 3 tormentor, cycle is complete and we have gone to season 1 but it will be played different way this time.

@manya CVs played with our brains very well yesterday. It was visually deceiving .

@fernandes VM we cannot tell. They might give.

Have you noticed the difference in the body posture? When she went unconscious, her head was still resting on the edge of mini glass table, the same position when she fell &hit the table! Her right hand was pointing down with palm touching the floor!

When Arjun saw her after he was woken up by the police, the whole body was lying on the floor, with head resting on floor, little away from table & right hand up with palm open & visible!

The body has moved in the unconscious state which is not possible!

Possibly, we are shown two separate scenes! The latter one is real & the former one is Maya's imagination! The entire sequence starting from coming out of bath room till the monologue on the swing is Maya's illusion!
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Posted: 8 years ago
@mandy in Ayan's case he mouthed those flithy dialogues, he tore Maya's dress, held her hair. Or in other words he was guilty of physically assaulting her not guilty of rape. He fell for Maya's trap of putting the key inside her dress though he could have broke open the door.
But yesterday it was much more confusing, because in Ayan case the whole incident was real, it was how you interpreted it , the visual deceiving happens.

Here we are not sure where the reality ended and illusion started.

@Fernandes Arjun came there it is reality. They had arguments also. That is also reality. Maya changed the colors Arjun put on her and wore white. It indicated she had already killed him as I explained in symbolism a married woman wears white with no other ornaments only when she becomes widow. So she killed him, before he came to kill her.
Body posture also has problems, that is why I said I want to see her chin. Whether the injury of glass is there.
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Posted: 8 years ago
shruti whats your idea and interpretation on this small leap? what are the things which you are expecting from this leap?😊

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