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Posted: 8 years ago

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5/6/2017

The rituals and customs of society doesnt allow one to forget their sorrow. This pretty much summed up today's episode. Yes that is the universal truth. Judgements especially the judgement on women is harsh. A widow is asked to wear white saree, while no such rule applies for a man. She is asked to be eternally in sorrow for one thing or the other. She is exploited. Still we women are the first to point fingers at a woman for breaking the moral code of conduct allowing men like Ashwin to win.

Today Vandana was telling Prem had fought against all rituals and customs. He treated his daughter at par with a son, he did the duties of a husband allowing his wife to walk like a queen. And Suman should wear color so that colors can be back. I agreed Suman has to wear color. Because she is Prem's wife, wife of a man who has given everything for the well being of his family, loved his family like anything.

Only one thing Vandana Mata some 3 years ago you wanted a girl to wear white, because you thought when she wore colors it is darkness everywhere. Why Vandana Mata, why Maya had to be in white. If white is the color of sorrow, color of rituals and customs why colors was not allowed on that girl. Why you couldnt hear what that girl spoke in press conference. Why you wanted to take colors from that girl and make her wear white. Why did you bring back the past to her Vandana Mata. Why did you make her realize again this world will only exploit her. To even get her right she had to allow herself to be exploited and if in power she has to exploit. 3 years back you exploited your power as a woman Vandana Mata. Yes it was exploitation.

I loved the way the truth of Maya and Samay's connection emerged. Saanjh getting the view of bad and mad Maya. Shipra telling her Maya destroyed Rajiv's life. Maya remembering Rajiv. I knew it, I knew this girl has gone through sexual touch which she didnt like, I knew she was exploited someway or the other. Today it was proved true. Yes Maya had allowed Samay to have physical relation with her to get the company as she didnt had any other option at that time. Yes that goes to prove what Samay told in your body are my marks though in your heart is Arjun. That day Rajiv exploited her vulnerability to satisfy her lust and today Maya exploits his lust to get things done for her. Yes this woman has known what lust is, this woman has seen what lust is, this woman knows how to exploit a man's lust, how to step on that Achilles heel. In a way she used the same trick with Ayan when she put the keys in her blouse. She knew in drunken state he will come for it and she was right.

Maya was proven bad and mad by Ashwin and he told the world she cannot run a company. To deal with such a man Maya also used dark method of giving herself to a man and she got the company and yes bad and mad Maya ran it successfully till Arjun came in her life.

She was exploited by the world and unfortunately today she exploits, as no one had shown her any other way. Her trust is always exploited. In S1 that was what happened when she protected Saanjh from fire and Saanjh hugged Arjun. We dont know what Arjun did for her to establish those cameras. Yes it is cancer third stage. The one who had reached power allowing herself to be exploited has learned only way to survive. To exploit those threatnen her survival with her wealth and power.

By the way I loved Samay's true name. Rajiv. Meaning Lotus. The one that blooms in dirt, yet that does not touch dirt. The flower on which Mahalakshmi sits and the flower that is used extensively for the pooja of Gods. Lotus that blooms in sunlight. One of the most auspicious flowers. Time the real name of time is Lotus. Samay is Rajiv or Rajiv is Samay. But I love the connection of those names.

I also loved what Rajiv told today, that you remember past when you have some problem in present. So true. You want to go to past when you dont like present and what Maya said is also true. When you go in past it means your present has come to an end. Yes if you cant move from past, then past will kill you. It was a nice episode which shread something on Maya's past.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#352

@Samaira Maya had empathy. Weak but yes she had when she protected Saanjh from fire during Holi in Season 1. She had jumped for her mother. She had also broken the glass of her house to save Jhanvi when Jhanvi had taken sweets because of Ashwin. Anyways let us agree to disagree on Vandana as our views are polar opposite.

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Aayushi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#353

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@Samaira Maya had empathy. Weak but yes she had when she protected Saanjh from fire during Holi in Season 1. She had jumped for her mother. She had also broken the glass of her house to save Jhanvi when Jhanvi had taken sweets because of Ashwin. Anyways let us agree to disagree on Vandana as our views are polar opposite.

I don't want to be rude, but I seem to be disagreeing here too(Saanjh's protection scene I mean).

Yep! we should just agree to disagree. 😊

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Posted: 8 years ago

#354

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
5/6/2017

The rituals and customs of society doesnt allow one to forget their sorrow. This pretty much summed up today's episode. Yes that is the universal truth. Judgements especially the judgement on women is harsh. A widow is asked to wear white saree, while no such rule applies for a man. She is asked to be eternally in sorrow for one thing or the other. She is exploited. Still we women are the first to point fingers at a woman for breaking the moral code of conduct allowing men like Ashwin to win.
Today Vandana was telling Prem had fought against all rituals and customs. He treated his daughter at par with a son, he did the duties of a husband allowing his wife to walk like a queen. And Suman should wear color so that colors can be back. I agreed Suman has to wear color. Because she is Prem's wife, wife of a man who has given everything for the well being of his family, loved his family like anything.

Only one thing Vandana Mata some 3 years ago you wanted a girl to wear white, because you thought when she wore colors it is darkness everywhere. Why Vandana Mata, why Maya had to be in white. If white is the color of sorrow, color of rituals and customs why colors was not allowed on that girl. Why you couldnt hear what that girl spoke in press conference. Why you wanted to take colors from that girl and make her wear white. Why did you bring back the past to her Vandana Mata. Why did you make her realize again this world will only exploit her. To even get her right she had to allow herself to be exploited and if in power she has to exploit. 3 years back you exploited your power as a woman Vandana Mata. Yes it was exploitation.

I loved the way the truth of Maya and Samay's connection emerged. Saanjh getting the view of bad and mad Maya. Shipra telling her Maya destroyed Rajiv's life. Maya remembering Rajiv. I knew it, I knew this girl has gone through sexual touch which she didnt like, I knew she was exploited someway or the other. Today it was proved true. Yes Maya had allowed Samay to have physical relation with her to get the company as she didnt had any other option at that time. Yes that goes to prove what Samay told in your body are my marks though in your heart is Arjun. That day Rajiv exploited her vulnerability to satisfy her lust and today Maya exploits his lust to get things done for her. Yes this woman has known what lust is, this woman has seen what lust is, this woman knows how to exploit a man's lust, how to step on that Achilles heel. In a way she used the same trick with Ayan when she put the keys in her blouse. She knew in drunken state he will come for it and she was right.

Maya was proven bad and mad by Ashwin and he told the world she cannot run a company. To deal with such a man Maya also used dark method of giving herself to a man and she got the company and yes bad and mad Maya ran it successfully till Arjun came in her life.

She was exploited by the world and unfortunately today she exploits, as no one had shown her any other way. Her trust is always exploited. In S1 that was what happened when she protected Saanjh from fire and Saanjh hugged Arjun. We dont know what Arjun did for her to establish those cameras. Yes it is cancer third stage. The one who had reached power allowing herself to be exploited has learned only way to survive. To exploit those threatnen her survival with her wealth and power.

By the way I loved Samay's true name. Rajiv. Meaning Lotus. The one that blooms in dirt, yet that does not touch dirt. The flower on which Mahalakshmi sits and the flower that is used extensively for the pooja of Gods. Lotus that blooms in sunlight. One of the most auspicious flowers. Time the real name of time is Lotus. Samay is Rajiv or Rajiv is Samay. But I love the connection of those names.

I also loved what Rajiv told today, that you remember past when you have some problem in present. So true. You want to go to past when you dont like present and what Maya said is also true. When you go in past it means your present has come to an end. Yes if you cant move from past, then past will kill you. It was a nice episode which shread something on Maya's past.

Shruthi Di i really love ur analysis

You are best Shruthi

Shruthi Di are you on Twitter wanna tell u something abt Samay and Maya which i dont wanna disclose it to other fans

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#355

Originally posted by: samaira_samy

See that's where I disagree.

I don't believe any such incident (if it's actually happened the way it's been shown. I strongly believe there's more to Maya's childhood saga.) can trigger psychotic behavior. Yes, I agree this horrendous incident/ abuse can leave a long lasting impression. Enough to shape up an individual's life. But it cannot uproot empathy from somebody.

Empathy is something people are born with.And psychopaths don't have that for anyone. It is clinically approved fact that psychopaths are born not bred. When you believe her to be one, then you cannot say she was different before that incident.

Vandana has been right in all her assumptions and instincts about Maya. I am not just saying she is right for the sake of the argument, have some points too.
1) Vandana claimed that she knows her son well, he would feel suffocated in relationship with this eccentric woman.(Turned out to be true.)
2) Her claims of Maya being Ashwin's killer and responsible for her mother's condition turned out to be true too.
3) She orchestrated whole campaign of Maya being pagal(I hate this word a lot.I wish and hope people will start treating mental disorders with empathy and like real physical diseases. But I am not going to hold it against her for being ignorant).True to her instincts,Maya indeed is severely ill.
4) She didn't believe her son could sexually assault or assault a woman.(Wrongly accused son is behind bars probably wondering where he went wrong.)
5) Her belief of Maya destroying everyone's life,I agree was too much at that time.(But now, what's left to destroy?)

@blue: copy-pasted my post from an old thread.

Vandana had doubts about Maya before her confrontation with Ashwin. So, I do not think she sees Maaya through Ashwin's eye.

And the Bimar/ Buri argument Vandana put forward, can be proved right in future. I believe so.

Yes that's right that psychopaths are born not bred. But all psychopaths are not criminals.

Maya even in Season 1 showed few characteristics of being a psychopath. But she wasn't a criminal (her being the murderer wasn't revealed) If she was in good hands, she might have not turned into a cold blooded criminal.

I believe Maya has half sympathy. Atleast for me, when she jumped into the river for her mum n burnt her hands for Saanjh, those moments were genuine, without any manipulations. Having half sympathy doesn't mean she's not a psychopath.

Actually there was a post where a member who's from the field of psychology discussed abt Maya's possibilities of being a psychopath. There is a 2 point system and if the person crosses a certain cut off score, he/she is termed as a psychopath. So Maya can be scored 1 in this particular symptom.

Almost all other symptoms were matching and she was already on the cut off score, we are yet to see more of her. So yeah she's a psychopath.

I would say Arjun has just brought out the worst from her. It's usually love brings out the best of a person, but here it has been opposite.

Though her past isn't revealed fully, maybe she was a criminal earlier as well but she's the most dangerous at this phase of her life (after marrying Arjun), even a threat to her baby.

Vandana's words might have been proved right, but her point was based on superstitions and assumptions not any solid proof. Like u said she had doubts on Maya even before Ashwin told her anything. She was judgemental in that phase. Right now when she has seen everything from her eyes, how Maya plotted to put Ayan behind the bars, I don't blame her, n she has all my sympathies, but that particular point of the story, I can't relate to her. Just my opinion though😊

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#356

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
5/6/2017

The rituals and customs of society doesnt allow one to forget their sorrow. This pretty much summed up today's episode. Yes that is the universal truth. Judgements especially the judgement on women is harsh. A widow is asked to wear white saree, while no such rule applies for a man. She is asked to be eternally in sorrow for one thing or the other. She is exploited. Still we women are the first to point fingers at a woman for breaking the moral code of conduct allowing men like Ashwin to win.
Today Vandana was telling Prem had fought against all rituals and customs. He treated his daughter at par with a son, he did the duties of a husband allowing his wife to walk like a queen. And Suman should wear color so that colors can be back. I agreed Suman has to wear color. Because she is Prem's wife, wife of a man who has given everything for the well being of his family, loved his family like anything.

Only one thing Vandana Mata some 3 years ago you wanted a girl to wear white, because you thought when she wore colors it is darkness everywhere. Why Vandana Mata, why Maya had to be in white. If white is the color of sorrow, color of rituals and customs why colors was not allowed on that girl. Why you couldnt hear what that girl spoke in press conference. Why you wanted to take colors from that girl and make her wear white. Why did you bring back the past to her Vandana Mata. Why did you make her realize again this world will only exploit her. To even get her right she had to allow herself to be exploited and if in power she has to exploit. 3 years back you exploited your power as a woman Vandana Mata. Yes it was exploitation.

I loved the way the truth of Maya and Samay's connection emerged. Saanjh getting the view of bad and mad Maya. Shipra telling her Maya destroyed Rajiv's life. Maya remembering Rajiv. I knew it, I knew this girl has gone through sexual touch which she didnt like, I knew she was exploited someway or the other. Today it was proved true. Yes Maya had allowed Samay to have physical relation with her to get the company as she didnt had any other option at that time. Yes that goes to prove what Samay told in your body are my marks though in your heart is Arjun. That day Rajiv exploited her vulnerability to satisfy her lust and today Maya exploits his lust to get things done for her. Yes this woman has known what lust is, this woman has seen what lust is, this woman knows how to exploit a man's lust, how to step on that Achilles heel. In a way she used the same trick with Ayan when she put the keys in her blouse. She knew in drunken state he will come for it and she was right.

Maya was proven bad and mad by Ashwin and he told the world she cannot run a company. To deal with such a man Maya also used dark method of giving herself to a man and she got the company and yes bad and mad Maya ran it successfully till Arjun came in her life.

She was exploited by the world and unfortunately today she exploits, as no one had shown her any other way. Her trust is always exploited. In S1 that was what happened when she protected Saanjh from fire and Saanjh hugged Arjun. We dont know what Arjun did for her to establish those cameras. Yes it is cancer third stage. The one who had reached power allowing herself to be exploited has learned only way to survive. To exploit those threatnen her survival with her wealth and power.

By the way I loved Samay's true name. Rajiv. Meaning Lotus. The one that blooms in dirt, yet that does not touch dirt. The flower on which Mahalakshmi sits and the flower that is used extensively for the pooja of Gods. Lotus that blooms in sunlight. One of the most auspicious flowers. Time the real name of time is Lotus. Samay is Rajiv or Rajiv is Samay. But I love the connection of those names.

I also loved what Rajiv told today, that you remember past when you have some problem in present. So true. You want to go to past when you dont like present and what Maya said is also true. When you go in past it means your present has come to an end. Yes if you cant move from past, then past will kill you. It was a nice episode which shread something on Maya's past.

Loved the Samay-Rajiv name analogy. Yes Time might be staying in filth but it emerges out as pure n removes the veil from everyone n everything...

After a long time I really loved or should I say loved to hate Maya. She was dark but didn't play any victim here no "I am bechari " stuff , she was in full swag. That kick-ass avatar of Maya 😃

So Rajiv Randhava aka Samay, offered a girl , who was begging for help, to have physical relationship with him. Maya who was desperately in a need to get hold of the company to get rid of the "pagal" tag, the only way she can prove her mettle to everyone, agreed to him.

But where Maya faltered was in keeping transparency in her relationship with Arjun.

If this is Maya's infamous "Sach" and she was about to tell him , but he said he does not care abt her past, I think she should have insisted n revealed it. I am sure Arjun wouldn't have minded. He's not judgmental like VM. This Sach is really nothing to hide from such an open minded husband like Arjun.

Arjun on the other hand revealed it to Maya when Saanjh proposed him, he has maintained transparency. His fault was planning that "Arya" pendant surprise gift for Maya. Also Saanjh's fault in poking her nose and trying to be overly selfless. Which made them pay.

This mistake of Maya will make her pay big time.

Since she didn't reveal, she will be judged. Her present actions where she isn't a victim but plays a victim, where she exploits Samay, will make ppl believe that she was never a victim but always the master manipulator. Her credibility of raising F&C will be questioned

If Maya agreed to Rajiv that day then Rajiv helped her to get the company, so they got hold of the company through fraud. How can fraud case get her an imprisonment of 20-25 year🤔

Or is it that she was below 18 n had sexual relationship, it's illegal right, so that could be another thing.

Another question how did Shipra reach asylum, is it Maya who sent her? Because she asked Saanjh whether Maya has sent her 😕😆

Also Saanjh's character has got really better. She's strong n she didn't say Maya ne Samay to plant Kiya Meri life Mei etc etc. She didn't form a judgement against her blindly. She said "So Samay's target was Maya, I was just a road"

While Samay will bring out Maya's truth, Saanjh will reveal Samay's secrets. I just hope this time she doesn't errs , it's do or die situation for her now as SaMaya are very dangerous.

Only a small part of Maya's Sach was revealed. That 20-25 year imprisonment part is still not revealed ... Piyush looked too hot in the FB part. And young Maya was very cute, with those spectacles n fringes. This Samay/ Rajeev has hardly aged in last 8 years 😆

Yesterday Jenny , Piyush, Aneri were at their best.

Edited by CutiepieAD - 8 years ago

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#357

@aditi the problem of what Vandana did was with the cut that was given to an already bleeding wound. Yes Maya had problems, but she was trying to move away from problems. For once trying to forget the past. Her wounds were raw. See parents are supposed to protect child. She was not protected. Yesterday we saw Rajiv is a lawyer. A lawyer is supposed to give justice. But the man exploited her. I am expecting to see more such exploitation of this girl from various walks of society which bled her and now she has become a hard core criminal. If one person among those could have shown some empathy we never know what could have happened, but maybe she could have changed.

Sometimes when we use harsh words we dont know the impact that create and sometimes when we use kind words we dont know the impact it creates. Jab We Met is a classic story where a enthusiastic Geet and her crazy ways brings back Adithya from the brink of suicide which he was planning to do. Then he goes back to give that love to Geet who has been rejected by her lover. Geet had no clue Adithya was going to committ suicide when she goes behind him in that train. He was a perfect stranger for her.

And people think Maa has right to behave the way Vandana did. I had thought multiple times whether to put it or not. But I am putting it today. It was 2003 just after my B-Tech. I was in a college which didnt had much campus placements and my bestie was in other college which had good campus placements. Her mother had pushed her to go to the college leaving her friends because there was good campus placement. My friend though appears extrovert, is a real introvert. She doesnt form relations fast. She loses trust fast. As she is from a kind of broken family. She demands too much in friendship, gives equally back in friendship so not many can handle her. She is my bestie from kindergarden. This girl never could stick in the engineering college properly struggled with studies, I used to teach her late night and all. Her mother uses very harsh words to reprimand her. 16 interviews later this girl didnt clear even the test. She was really depressed. Her mother didnt spare her and when I got the job in campus placements with just 2 companies, her condition became pathetic. She was sent to Bangalore with her brother to search jobs. I knew that day she was having a test and interview in Sathyam. As I was walking home her mom saw me called and told cant your friend study properly. She has not cleared another test. What is she doing and gave a big lecture of how clumsy and lazy my friend is to me. Do you know what I did. My instincts were telling something was not good. She had not called me. If her mother spoke like this to me, what she would have spoken to her. She had failed her 17th test. For past four years she was struggling to keep up with her mother's demands. With low marks and 17 test failures and her mother keeping on bickering I knew what her condition would be.

I had never ran like that in my life towards my home. My uncle seeing me panicky asked what is the issue. I didnt tell anything. Just grabbed the mobile and dialled her number. First ring she didnt pick up. I called again. Anyone could have heard my heart pounding in those few moments till I heard a faint " Hello " from other side.

First question I asked was " Where are you". There was silence on the other side and I repeated the question and she told on the terrace of the 10 floor high rise apartment. I said get down and it was not a request but an order as I knew what she was upto. I spoke to her for 3 continuous hrs first getting her back to room and then telling only 17 tests has been lost, there will be another one. She has cleared her B-Tech. In another 2-3 months she managed to get into a MNC. Now after 14 years a successful professional, happy wife and a mother of a bubbly 3 year old boy and expecting her second bundle of joy it was after 6 years she admitted to me she had gone to the 10th floor to committ suicide and was contemplating on from where to jump. If my call had come some 5 mins later things would have been different.

I never told aunty what her daughter was upto that day, neither did she tell her mom. But those words would have cost her Maa a lot if I had not sensed what my friend was upto that day.

Yes Maa has the right to do good for the child. But there is a way for it. If it is not done that way, without understanding the child, to correct the mistake child wont be there. Use words wisely. You simply dont know how the receiver uses them or how it affects them. You might even snuff out a life prematurely with your judgemental attitude.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#358

@aditi you are right. Maya's present problem is she is using a victim card now while she is not a victim. But she was a victim once. Yes the fact that she didnt tell Arjun abt it will cost her. Saanjh now knows Maya destroyed Rajiv, but doesnt know what Rajiv did to Maya for such vendetta. Saanjh has got the path, yes Samay is the path through which she will know abt Maya.

See Rajiv is a lawyer, so I feel Maya would have continued her relation for quite some time to decimate the enemies before decimating him. And I feel proof is not there is also because of him. A lawyer knows the importance of visual proof.

Saanjh is also a lawyer, so she has to bring out the submerged proofs, for that she has to follow Rajiv only as the proof is submerged by him. Time will show the proof 😆😆. First proof, punishment and then maybe Saanjh herself will restore Maya's family is what I feel as somewhere in the journey she will understand Maya the girl.

I dont think it was underage relation as you have to be 18 to claim your rights, so Ashwin would have planned from Maya's childhood to ensure by the time she reached 18, she is made mad so that he can get the company. Ashwin had used fraud to get company or you can say psychological warfare on the child. She allowed herself to be used for Rajiv to do something which reversed whatever proofs Ashwin had created.

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Aayushi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#359

Originally posted by: CutiepieAD

Yes that's right that psychopaths are born not bred. But all psychopaths are not criminals.
Maya even in Season 1 showed few characteristics of being a psychopath. But she wasn't a criminal (her being the murderer wasn't revealed) If she was in good hands, she might have not turned into a cold blooded criminal.

I believe Maya has half sympathy. Atleast for me, when she jumped into the river for her mum n burnt her hands for Saanjh, those moments were genuine, without any manipulations. Having half sympathy doesn't mean she's not a psychopath.

Actually there was a post where a member who's from the field of psychology discussed abt Maya's possibilities of being a psychopath. There is a 2 point system and if the person crosses a certain cut off score, he/she is termed as a psychopath. So Maya can be scored 1 in this particular symptom.
Almost all other symptoms were matching and she was already on the cut off score, we are yet to see more of her. So yeah she's a psychopath.

I would say Arjun has just brought out the worst from her. It's usually love brings out the best of a person, but here it has been opposite.
Though her past isn't revealed fully, maybe she was a criminal earlier as well but she's the most dangerous at this phase of her life (after marrying Arjun), even a threat to her baby.

Vandana's words might have been proved right, but her point was based on superstitions and assumptions not any solid proof. Like u said she had doubts on Maya even before Ashwin told her anything. She was judgemental in that phase. Right now when she has seen everything from her eyes, how Maya plotted to put Ayan behind the bars, I don't blame her, n she has all my sympathies, but that particular point of the story, I can't relate to her. Just my opinion though😊

You know this is the beauty of this show, that characters like Ashwin and Vandana were the one who saw through Maya's facade. The characters, you cannot root for. And you are secretly hoping them to fall flat on their face with their judgments. But turns out, they've been right all along.

I don't know why Maya being Ashwin's killer was such a big deal? That monster deserved the worst death ever IMO. And I didn't mind Maya ripping him apart.

Vandana is a character who annoyed me, had her cringe-worthy moments, but I never hated her. When she was on a rant against Maya(way before their marriage), she was going on and on about how Arjun would feel suffocated in her love. I was like she is downright judgmental, but this lady has got a point here. I have got relatives, who with their orthodox thinking makes me want to gouge my eyes out at family gatherings. Maybe this is the reason that I find Vandana tolerable.

You can call it empathy(in reference to Maya's saving her mother), but from where I see this, I only think it is to be her obsessive compulsive disorder to keep things her way. She wouldn't mind risking her own life, to get what she wants. That's where I agree with @shruthi, you can get this kind of results, if you strategize it right. And about her burning her hands for Saanjh, I think it to be a facade. This theory has not been proved yet, so I'll chuck it for the time being.

I agree with you not all psychopaths are criminal. These are called successful psychopaths. They generally don't opt for the criminal route. Most of the psychopaths use their traits to get what they want at the expense of others.

Psychopaths don't have emotional feelings for a particular person or thing. Even, if they think they love someone, it is not a deep attachment. Because, they are built that way. They observe feelings or thoughts of others, but they certainly don't feel them.Their feelings for a person can change in the blink of an eye. What used to be their obsessive love can turn into sheer hatred for the same person.That is what happened to Jhanvi. And this is the reason why I think she never loved Arjun either. I think she doesn't even understand what love is.

Really, there is a post on Maya's analysis. I would love to read that.

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#360

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@aditi you are right. Maya's present problem is she is using a victim card now while she is not a victim. But she was a victim once. Yes the fact that she didnt tell Arjun abt it will cost her. Saanjh now knows Maya destroyed Rajiv, but doesnt know what Rajiv did to Maya for such vendetta. Saanjh has got the path, yes Samay is the path through which she will know abt Maya.
See Rajiv is a lawyer, so I feel Maya would have continued her relation for quite some time to decimate the enemies before decimating him. And I feel proof is not there is also because of him. A lawyer knows the importance of visual proof.

Saanjh is also a lawyer, so she has to bring out the submerged proofs, for that she has to follow Rajiv only as the proof is submerged by him. Time will show the proof 😆😆. First proof, punishment and then maybe Saanjh herself will restore Maya's family is what I feel as somewhere in the journey she will understand Maya the girl.

I dont think it was underage relation as you have to be 18 to claim your rights, so Ashwin would have planned from Maya's childhood to ensure by the time she reached 18, she is made mad so that he can get the company. Ashwin had used fraud to get company or you can say psychological warfare on the child. She allowed herself to be used for Rajiv to do something which reversed whatever proofs Ashwin had created.

Samay is lawyer who brought darkness and Saanjh will bring Savera, that will be really nice to see ...

Yes Maya must have continued with her relationship with Samay . He wanted lust and she gave him. N in turn he helped her legally.

Red- Even I want that, but Maya's family life getting restored sounds far fetched as of now, but then anything can happen. But I just want ArYa love or ArYa baby to survive. Arjun most probably will be alone at the end. Neither Saanjh nor Maya.

Bold - yes agree , like father like daughter😆

Thanks for sharing your experience Shruthi di. Sad to hear such a case of parental pressure

Maya wanted to change, even now she wants to change, she might have the thought of changing, but her issues are so deep rooted that she is not able to change. We can't say that if VM accepted her, she would have changed n lived a happy life. Her karma, n her psychotic tendencies would have come back. But dont think she would have kept committing crimes after crimes if VM was loving, atleast wouldn't have targeted VM n her son so badly.

I always felt the scene where Maya is at VMs feet, VMs expressions, her hand movements are like she wanted to give ashirwaad, that was the motherly love in her, but right after that her superstitions, judgemental attitude took over her n she didn't give ashirwaad.

It wasn't her motherly instinct which made her do all this but her judgemental behavior

Edited by CutiepieAD - 8 years ago