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Posted: 8 years ago
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I love when I see power in all its glory. The ugly power that takes the innocence out of you. The ugly power that breaks your trust and make you see only the darkness. I loved Samay today the way he showed his power to both the girls.

Welcome to the world of broken trust Saanjh. Welcome to the world of power. What do you feel Saanjh when trust is broken. You feel darkness. You feel alone, lonely. You dont know what to do. You want to jump. And then you tell you will find your own trust, you will find your own fire and you will burn Maya and Samay. Applause. When trust is broken you feel like burning the people responsible for it right. You are completely right. That is what happens to humans. You are a 26-27 year old lawyer, an independant woman, yet the moment trust broke you see darkness, you want to burn. What about a child Saanjh. A child whose trust has been broken from childhood starting from the man who is supposed to protect her. She burned Saanjh, when each time her trust was broken she burned more, and burned people who broke her trust. This lady doesnt know what is keeping trust means. Unfortunately nobody showed her including you. You too broke her trust Saanjh.

Now you dont want to marry Samay. But Saanjh Shubh is with Samay. And your lips are shut. You swallow the truth. Your brother doesnt want to leave his jeeju. His jeeju told everything is fine till your lips are sealed. What about a girl Saanjh whose mother the moment she sees the tormentor of her child jumps to go with him. The mother for whom she has to tolerate her tormentor. When it is about your family, you too have to move with the person who murdered your father. The truth of life which you never experienced in your sheltered life.

Coming to Maya. Maya madam who asked you to keep bad with you post marriage. Why in the world you send sms to Samay about Prem. Arjun had accepted most bad things about you. If you had told you had pre marital relation with this creep he might have accepted that also. He told he is not concerend with your past. Madam he is concerend with your present because he is your present. Now tolerate him. Dont cry. There is no point crying. You are paying for your actions. poor baby in your womb. That baby is also listening to this mess Maya mata. I loved the dialogue of Samay if you switch of the phone intentionally or it gets switched off accidently or get broken you are done with. Maya mata learn to differentiate between crime, mistake or your perception of crime and mistake. Now look at your condition. It's pathetic. It looks like the girl who is terrified seeing Ashwin.

Saanjh's Samay, Maya's Rajiv. Saanjh's duffer, Maya's Arjun. Names are different, result the same. What did you gain girls trying to fight over a man. Saanjh in her need to eliminate Maya has become a puppet in Samay's hand her family at stake, Maya in her need to eliminate Saanjh has also become a puppet in Samay's hand her family is also at risk. Vandana pitted these women against each other. What does she have, one son whose life in risk and other son in jail.

Vandana called Maya is dirt, dirt fell on her son. Saanjh sees the dirt for the first time. Maya has fallen back into the quagmire from which she was trying to escape and that quagmire is drowning her.

Samay says now Maya will be in her limit, he will show what beyhadh means. True all women have played enough, fought over each other, bickered over each other and now a man decides to use all of them.

Truth of what happens in the world. When a woman sees herself through the man's eyes that is maa, wife whatever and fight over him as if he is a bread crumb they just become a man's dogs, slaves to do his bidding. Ladies if you want to change the world first stop seeing yourself through the eyes of a man. That's what Prem had taught his daughter. That's what love will teach you also.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

7/6/2017

I love when I see power in all its glory. The ugly power that takes the innocence out of you. The ugly power that breaks your trust and make you see only the darkness. I loved Samay today the way he showed his power to both the girls.

Welcome to the world of broken trust Saanjh. Welcome to the world of power. What do you feel Saanjh when trust is broken. You feel darkness. You feel alone, lonely. You dont know what to do. You want to jump. And then you tell you will find your own trust, you will find your own fire and you will burn Maya and Samay. Applause. When trust is broken you feel like burning the people responsible for it right. You are completely right. That is what happens to humans. You are a 26-27 year old lawyer, an independant woman, yet the moment trust broke you see darkness, you want to burn. What about a child Saanjh. A child whose trust has been broken from childhood starting from the man who is supposed to protect her. She burned Saanjh, when each time her trust was broken she burned more, and burned people who broke her trust. This lady doesnt know what is keeping trust means. Unfortunately nobody showed her including you. You too broke her trust Saanjh.

Now you dont want to marry Samay. But Saanjh Shubh is with Samay. And your lips are shut. You swallow the truth. Your brother doesnt want to leave his jeeju. His jeeju told everything is fine till your lips are sealed. What about a girl Saanjh whose mother the moment she sees the tormentor of her child jumps to go with him. The mother for whom she has to tolerate her tormentor. When it is about your family, you too have to move with the person who murdered your father. The truth of life which you never experienced in your sheltered life.

Coming to Maya. Maya madam who asked you to keep bad with you post marriage. Why in the world you send sms to Samay about Prem. Arjun had accepted most bad things about you. If you had told you had pre marital relation with this creep he might have accepted that also. He told he is not concerend with your past. Madam he is concerend with your present because he is your present. Now tolerate him. Dont cry. There is no point crying. You are paying for your actions. poor baby in your womb. That baby is also listening to this mess Maya mata. I loved the dialogue of Samay if you switch of the phone intentionally or it gets switched off accidently or get broken you are done with. Maya mata learn to differentiate between crime, mistake or your perception of crime and mistake. Now look at your condition. It's pathetic. It looks like the girl who is terrified seeing Ashwin.

Saanjh's Samay, Maya's Rajiv. Saanjh's duffer, Maya's Arjun. Names are different, result the same. What did you gain girls trying to fight over a man. Saanjh in her need to eliminate Maya has become a puppet in Samay's hand her family at stake, Maya in her need to eliminate Saanjh has also become a puppet in Samay's hand her family is also at risk. Vandana pitted these women against each other. What does she have, one son whose life in risk and other son in jail.

Vandana called Maya is dirt, dirt fell on her son. Saanjh sees the dirt for the first time. Maya has fallen back into the quagmire from which she was trying to escape and that quagmire is drowning her.

Samay says now Maya will be in her limit, he will show what beyhadh means. True all women have played enough, fought over each other, bickered over each other and now a man decides to use all of them.

Truth of what happens in the world. When a woman sees herself through the man's eyes that is maa, wife whatever and fight over him as if he is a bread crumb they just become a man's dogs, slaves to do his bidding. Ladies if you want to change the world first stop seeing yourself through the eyes of a man. That's what Prem had taught his daughter. That's what love will teach you also.


i am just curious to know what now maya will do? i just wondering if she is just acting in front of Rajiv i guess she is finding that in how many ways rajiv can expose her..she already know about all proofs that rajiv has..i know she is making a contingency plan for him..as she said Saza ki Sazish karni padegi..and that look at the end of the episode 😕 rajiv tu to gaya maya se panga tujhe mehnga padega..
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Posted: 8 years ago
@factfictionmyth I dont think on her own Maya can deal with this Rajiv as he knows too much about her. But yes she will plan that is for sure. Need to see how she does it. But this time she is genuinely afraid
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Ok finally caught up with the show except the last 3 episodes. Actually I didn't find it bad as much I heard the complains of too much negativity. May be because the episodes from Saanjh's engagement to the last recent episodes were focused on Saanjh's destruction. Felt so good to finally see her at receiving end for the first time since the show has started. All this while she had made Maya paranoid with her threats of snatching Arjun If she gets a chance, interference, destruction and then acting innocent. She finally got a taste of her own medicine of what happens when she pokes her nose where it doesn't belong, what happens when she plays with Maya's trust and the last guy's feelings just to make Arjun jealous, and her all evils. Since the beginning she's been playing and playing and accusing Maya of all her misjudged accusations, wrongly blaming her for taking her toy Arjun and hating her for it, trying to break her house, killing her baby, etc and now she got trapped in her own game. She finally got crazy, paranoid and lost her cool post her father's death. Her situation truly did become like the way Maya had said that even destruction will feel pity for her. 😃 And the best was Maya didn't even have to get her hands dirty. SAMAY did all the work by himself. Thank U, Samay.

Coming to Arjun, I am so annoyed at him. 🥱 Loved all the dialogues Samay say about him. Him and Saanjh has made Maya to this extent paranoid with their toxic relationship which they name it as friendship. If Arjun can't stay away from Saanjh, them why the hell did he marry Maya and ruin her life? Did she force him?? Why make the girl go crazy with you and your dusky obsession. She already was in ruins. Had parents crazy, a rapist after her and had enough problems in her life. She didn't need these two morons who use friendship to continue whatever relationship which they claim they only understand. Maya is crazy, Samay is crazy, that jitu guy was crazy, the media is crazy, the whole world is crazy but these both. I was so disgusted by Arjun in the funeral. They didn't even leave the funeral. Like WTH Saanjh's lips were touching Arjun's bare chest eww. Felt so bad for Maya :( She tried her best to tolerate them and accepted Saanjh wholeheartedly post marriage. But they both betrayed her trust with them alwaus meeting hidingly and all in s1. And then in 3 years he is been going after Saanjh. Any wife will get crazy in the end. My friend and I were watching the old S1 episodes of their craziness and I noticed drunk Arjun's face was on Saanjh's chest in that late night restaurant meeting. We were disgusted and also because similar situation happened in real life, and then the girlfriend/wife looks the crazy one for feeling insecure or retaliating. If Saanjh was so decent, she would have pushed Arjun and made him sit on that chair rather than holding a married man's face to her chest like he's her lover or trying to kiss him. Maya really didn't need all this nonsense post her tragic childhood and her already sadness. I wish she fell in love with man who didn't have such a leech after him and such a home destroyer who never leaves and always causes destruction.


As for Maya, I find her very dumb in s2. Even though I like that finally she's retaliating against all who caused her wrongs in S1 and then again in s2. But she gives back in such a way that it's also causing her in trouble and ruining herself. And really Samay is rapist? Why the hell then did you make him bite you or any other man for that matter? She has lost it in S2. I was already disgusted by her for making Samay biting her, but now he also turned rapist or sexual predator whatever. Now she will also get some of her own taste, so whatever. 😆


But I wonder if Arjun will at all get something back too. Why karma bites only women? Saanjh already got it. Maya will get now for her disgusting bites and using Samay for. Even VM got her Ayaan in Jail. In all this, the real cause Arjun is no where. When will he something back too?? But of course, he's poor duffer of dusky, naive and innocent of Maya. Poor baby is never wrong. It's always the others.
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

7/6/2017

I love when I see power in all its glory. The ugly power that takes the innocence out of you. The ugly power that breaks your trust and make you see only the darkness. I loved Samay today the way he showed his power to both the girls.

Welcome to the world of broken trust Saanjh. Welcome to the world of power. What do you feel Saanjh when trust is broken. You feel darkness. You feel alone, lonely. You dont know what to do. You want to jump. And then you tell you will find your own trust, you will find your own fire and you will burn Maya and Samay. Applause. When trust is broken you feel like burning the people responsible for it right. You are completely right. That is what happens to humans. You are a 26-27 year old lawyer, an independant woman, yet the moment trust broke you see darkness, you want to burn. What about a child Saanjh. A child whose trust has been broken from childhood starting from the man who is supposed to protect her. She burned Saanjh, when each time her trust was broken she burned more, and burned people who broke her trust. This lady doesnt know what is keeping trust means. Unfortunately nobody showed her including you. You too broke her trust Saanjh.

Now you dont want to marry Samay. But Saanjh Shubh is with Samay. And your lips are shut. You swallow the truth. Your brother doesnt want to leave his jeeju. His jeeju told everything is fine till your lips are sealed. What about a girl Saanjh whose mother the moment she sees the tormentor of her child jumps to go with him. The mother for whom she has to tolerate her tormentor. When it is about your family, you too have to move with the person who murdered your father. The truth of life which you never experienced in your sheltered life.

Coming to Maya. Maya madam who asked you to keep bad with you post marriage. Why in the world you send sms to Samay about Prem. Arjun had accepted most bad things about you. If you had told you had pre marital relation with this creep he might have accepted that also. He told he is not concerend with your past. Madam he is concerend with your present because he is your present. Now tolerate him. Dont cry. There is no point crying. You are paying for your actions. poor baby in your womb. That baby is also listening to this mess Maya mata. I loved the dialogue of Samay if you switch of the phone intentionally or it gets switched off accidently or get broken you are done with. Maya mata learn to differentiate between crime, mistake or your perception of crime and mistake. Now look at your condition. It's pathetic. It looks like the girl who is terrified seeing Ashwin.

Saanjh's Samay, Maya's Rajiv. Saanjh's duffer, Maya's Arjun. Names are different, result the same. What did you gain girls trying to fight over a man. Saanjh in her need to eliminate Maya has become a puppet in Samay's hand her family at stake, Maya in her need to eliminate Saanjh has also become a puppet in Samay's hand her family is also at risk. Vandana pitted these women against each other. What does she have, one son whose life in risk and other son in jail.

Vandana called Maya is dirt, dirt fell on her son. Saanjh sees the dirt for the first time. Maya has fallen back into the quagmire from which she was trying to escape and that quagmire is drowning her.

Samay says now Maya will be in her limit, he will show what beyhadh means. True all women have played enough, fought over each other, bickered over each other and now a man decides to use all of them.

Truth of what happens in the world. When a woman sees herself through the man's eyes that is maa, wife whatever and fight over him as if he is a bread crumb they just become a man's dogs, slaves to do his bidding. Ladies if you want to change the world first stop seeing yourself through the eyes of a man. That's what Prem had taught his daughter. That's what love will teach you also.


1+++ She has always been sheltered and loved. And when once she got her trust broken and something bad happened in her life, she wanted to suicide, started acting crazy, and all. And Maya who's been since childhood has her trust broken from everyone. Her parents, laws, justice system and everyone. She's been exploited and abused in all ways. Emotionally, physically, sexually, and mentally but still surviving and this Saanjh never understood her pain and called her crazy and has an obsession to put her in mental asylum and take her husband. That's why I couldn't feel nothing for Saanjh in her cries post Prem's death. Whenever I would feel anything for her, I would remember how much she has caused Maya pain. Had it been her without her wrongs, I wouldve felt extremely sad for her seeing all her cries. It was tragic to see but at the same time couldn't feel much sympathy. And even with her recent loss, she wasnt alone. Everyone was with her unlike in Maya's case when even when she was a child, no one was there to protect her. 😭 She had to do everything on her own and until now she's doing the same.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Darling people feel negativity because seeing Saanjh like this, as they feel good has lost. For me I had expected this for Saanjh. I knew she will be burned with her misplaced priority in life for Arjun without listening to her father. All these phases of Saanjh I had expected and people who had read my analysis also knew that the script at this point is exactly moving like that. Prem's death and Saanjh in pit.
And as you rightly said she has support at this point. Maya had survived with zero support. It was survival for her with no real support. It is difficult for such people to trust as each time their trust gets broken. You really have to put effort to gain their trust which Arjun has not done at this point.

Coming to women getting punishment, Darling if woman want to be the centre of a man's world men will have upper hand. They will exploit you one way or the other. When will woman learn to make a man centre of their universe. Question is simple you want to to be sun or earth. Sun is visible, but cannot move, has to give always, earth decides its position. Earth movement is not visible but it holds the power to decide where sunlight will fall 😃. This is the simple truth but women trapped in roles wont support each other. They will bicker over men which men very much want them to so that they dont have to take accountability and push every blame on women also exploit them.
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@Darling coming to Maya's condition power of time is against her, her past is against her. She is vulnerable against her past as she has to keep the facade. Samay tells Samay ne Samay ko palat diya. That means past has come for Maya, past where she is vulnerable. So it was expected that she will be vulnerable here.
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Guys will update tomorrow as typing from mobile is difficult.
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8/6/2017

I always expect something different from Saanjh. When I see her one day as Prem Mathur's daughter and feel happy about it, next day comes the irritating character. Girl with moral high ground. Laska is right at times that I should not be trusting dusky to show the path. What should I do to you dusky to bring you out of Maya. Yesterday I didnt know whether I should bang dusky's head or bang my own head for trying to trust this woman.

What right do you have dusky to question God. God doesnt want to see you happy. Do you even realize Dusky what all he has given you. A upright father, a loving mother, a sincere brother, a lovely home, a happy childhood, good education, pretty decent job, independance to choose your life partner something which as per the Unicef status only some 20-30% children get in India and when it comes to girls less than 10% get it. And you are telling God doesnt like you happy. yes he didnt give you Arjun, your first love. He decided to give him to another girl who didnt had a proper childhood. God is not your private property to give only you happiness. He tries to balance it out. He tries to give chance to everyone to have some happiness in their life. So he gave Arjun to her, the man she loved because she had a horrible father, doormat mother, scarred childhood and many other problems. He gave Arjun to her with the hope that if she can change for good with Arjun so be it. If she messes with it, that's her problem. But you do not have any write to poke your head in her relation with her husband and question God on happiness.

Second may I ask you how did Arjun do treachery to you. On what basis you are slapping the charges of treachery on him. Did he tell I love you to you, roamed with you, had premarital relation with you, made you pregnant and then dumped you, went and married Maya for her beauty and the luxury she offers. No right. This man has never told " I love you " to you. Infact he had even told you, that you behave closely with him does that mean you love him and he assured himself you dont love him. Or behaving closely doesnt mean love for him. You had love for him and you behaved closely because of that, but he didnt do that. He had not given any hopes to you that he will marry you. That was in your head, the money you saved from childhood for lehenga. Even now he didnt do any treachery. He simply made a choice. His wife gave him a choice. Between her and the beyhadh friendship he choose one. He chose his pregnant wife. Any sane, normal woman who would be at their wits end would have given the choice Maya gave to Arjun much before. And Maya herself should have given that in season 1, than trying to eliminate you after seeing that hug between you both for Holi. What do you think a wife feels seeing a chipku friend like you and friendship that doesnt have a limit. Where she knows the women in question is not having platonic feelings for her husband. If Maya had given that choice and walked off from Arjun's life she would have been much better today with a 3 year old child if she was pregnant that time. A wife is not a piece of rag cloth who has to tolerate the rubbish of her husband partying with his friend late night drinking or see their hug or see him get up from mandap and go and hug. There is hadh for everything. Arjun had come for your father's funeral, he even came back to console you and when his wife gave him the choice he made the choice. He has not done any treachery to you. Get it out of your head. Maya atleast has the perception of treachery which should have ended for her the moment Arjun told he doesnt love you firmly in the hospital and she should have stayed put. For you, you dint even have that. Because Arjun had not betrayed you in anyway. Even Ayan has the right to complain but you do not. As it was Arjun who instigated Ayan with his sob story, made him go for Maya and then supported his wife completely without hearing his brother's side of story. It was Arjun who wanted to meet Ayan. But you went again and again in Arjun's and Maya's life.

So for the mess you are in at this point neither God is responsible nor Arjun. It is your need to go after the toy which God deprived you, which you think is an injustice to you has landed you in the mess you are in. Your own perception of right on Arjun that is responsible for this mess. Listen to your father Saanjh than shouting in front of God and questioning him. Maya will not have to do anything. With your thankless attitude towards God you yourself will send him to Maya's lap if you continue like this.

Coming to Vandana. Vandana Mata dont you need to check the horoscope of Samay and Saanjh. Saanjh is your beti right. Is it that Maa will go any extend for beta not for beti. Your own son has cast asperisons on Samay. Saanjh told you she saw Maya giving flying kiss to Samay. Dont you think you need to do some detective giri on Samay. Or it doesnt matter. Samay acha ladka hai. Maya broke a glass, tho Maya became buri. Horoscope has to be shown to multiple pandits. Now even after getting some signs no such alertness for your daughter. You know everything right Mata. You have so much experience. Your daughter's life is in risk. She is in deep trouble. Maya has really put her in trouble. Why cant you see what is in front of your eyes Mata. Where is your judgement. Or judgement is applicable to certain people. Samay acha ladka hai. If someone tell me Saanjh didnt tell, please stop. She guessed everything about Maya without Arjun telling because Arjun is her beta, she knows him. So if Sanjh is her beti without she telling anything she has to guess the pain Saanjh is going through. Yes a Maa has to do that.So much for Mata's I know everything attitude.

Now comes Maya. Well pay for what you have done. What was the need to put Samay in Saanjh's life. Arjun would have forgiven your premarital relation whatever rubbish that was. He would have forgiven you for killing Ashwin also, if you had come clean with him. You need not had to do anything with Jhanvi also. You were fine till killing of Ashwin. You had a chance of normal life after serving punishment or whatsover. But the way you went with Jhanvi, Ayan and putting Samay in Saanjh's life, things are messier for you. Using past to gauge your present and deal with present has cost you. Look at your condition now. Marriage dress and associated jewellery weighs heavily on you now Maya. I loved that contrast. Marriage was a real change for Maya, but the way she dealt with it, it has become a nightmare for her. There were always better ways to deal with Vandana Mata and Saanjh than what Maya did. Sometimes it is better to leave that toxic relation also and go with your career as there is no point holding onto a relation which only gives trouble to you. But Maya didnt do it. And now she is vulnerable and alone also.
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi



Now comes Maya. Well pay for what you have done. What was the need to put Samay in Saanjh's life. Arjun would have forgiven your premarital relation whatever rubbish that was. He would have forgiven you for killing Ashwin also, if you had come clean with him. You need not had to do anything with Jhanvi also. You were fine till killing of Ashwin. You had a chance of normal life after serving punishment or whatsover. But the way you went with Jhanvi, Ayan and putting Samay in Saanjh's life, things are messier for you. Using past to gauge your present and deal with present has cost you. Look at your condition now.


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To some extent..Maya could have been forgiven for killing Ashwin..but then she went ahead and started messing with other people..

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