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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#201

@anshvi Maya tells today a mother can kill for the child and also die for the child. For me the way CVs are taking it, points towards the latter part, death. As she might feel she is a lost cause and can be a threat to the child.

This is where I expect Saanjh to step in. Love is about life, not death. The 7th vow she kept, where she changed the whole spectrum of those vows. The 7th vow which is hanging loose now, I will Saanjh has to complete it. The 2 date of births which Saanjh finds telling she can win the case.

I expect a maturity in Saanjh post Prem's death and the subsequent events in her life. I expect Saanjh to face some hardships, but unlike Maya who burned others as she faced it as a child, Saanjh who is Prem's daughter should be able to deal it in a different fashion, thus showing a different path.

Because Maya is Ashwin's daughter, the darkness of Ashwin is spreading through her even after Ashwin's death. Saanjh is Prem's daughter. I hope she becomes Prem's daughter and not Vandana's daughter. There is a hell lot of difference between both.

@aditi are you telling making VM, Saanjh and all right. It was expected naa. I had also told, first bad and mad Maya will be exposed, only after that any change of direction will happen.

@khushi I will never believe a mother was helpless to protect the child. If she wants she can, only she needs the will.

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sunithi

@sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#202

She doesn't need to know what's she is doing is wrong,she knows.she knows what's is correct way of living also..only a thing she need a chance to prove she can be good..the world never given her ...she has to know,she can live by trusting herself,self respecting herself and valuing her for that she needs treatment..

1st of all she needed Jhanvi to hold on to life so protected her from Ashwin in all means,now to surivive she thinks she needs Arjun,so again doing all mean things..she jux need to value herself,that's the redemption..

What an episode,great execution of scenes..No1 can justify the way Cvcs justified Maya..her actions r wrong but reasons r correct..

Bravo Cvcs for showing,it's Maya who choose to go mental asylum rather than other people winning ..

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#203

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
25/5/2017

I loved today episode on 2 counts. One dialogue of Samay and Arjun. It was the best part. Samay didnt tell who he was talking about, but every word he spoke was true to Duffer-Dusky relation. No man would love to see his fiancee in another man's arm so intimately and no woman would love to see her husband with another woman in a compromising position. It is a fact. If in season 1 Maya had confronted Saanjh, Saanjh would have exactly given her the replies Arjun gave to Samay. That Arjun is Maya's she is now only friend blah blah. But that doesnt make any difference. If you are friends post marriage/engagement your spouse/fiancee gets more importance than your friend. If the friend is of opposite sex you need to be mindful of your actions not to create unnecessary MUs. Samay told Arjun to leave her, because she cannot leave him. It is true for both Dusky and Maya. That scene had a clear cut hidden message in it. Time or Samay have targetted Arjun. He clearly told when I close my eyes I see her, when I open my eyes I see you and I understand there is a difference of you being there or not. Also the line there is a difference between love and obsession. Yes in a way Arjun is obsession of both Maya and Saanjh. Maya is obsession of Samay and Saanjh obsession of Arjun. Maya is Arjun's love, while Saanjh is his Junoon. She cannot be his Junoon, neither can he be Maya's Junoon, he has to be Maya's love. Maya can be Samay's Junoon, because only he can destroy her which is needed.

Now coming to Jhanvi. Again that scene was quite contradictory. Maya telling why didnt you hear me out once. See that part where she talks about her childhood is tragic. Where she was put in a dark room and she kept on crying asking for help. No one came. Her belief that mother will come, mother didnt come. For me that was the point where Maya's trust broke. Mother is that person in our life on whom we trust so much. With whom we feel the most secure. The first call when you are troubled mostly goes to mother. The person whom you want near when you are sick is mother. Yes mother, if we close our eyes we feel the most secure when we think out Maa. But in Maya's case Maa itself made her insecure. Presence of Maa meant her tormentor will come. Her Maa will go for her tormentor. In earlier analysis also I had put, Jhanvi broke Maya's trust and so far no one has done any action that could regain that trust. When Arjun told to Dusky he doesnt love her to some extend Maya was assured, but when he went for Dusky and Samay came with that photo once again the broken trust come to fore. Maya pushed Jhanvi. But what I liked about that scene before Jhanvi falls Maya holds her. She tells her she killed Ashwin because he tormented them, she made her mad because the court will leave her. They can start a new life. But again Jhanvi chooses Ashwin, telling she will expose Maya for taking Ashwin away from her. At every point Jhanvi's loyalty was towards her husband and not towards the child he tormented. Today in that bathtub no one heard Jhanvi, just like no one heard child Maya in that dark room. The darkness that engulfed child today manifested itself in its most darkest form justifying her action as a mother. Asking her mother to give life for her and telling she is taking life for her child.

Maya will lose Arjun, I feel it is in the cards. If Jhanvi doesnt survive then Maya will be all alone with Samay stalking her.

What did Maya talk about that proof. I heard something like it was a cry for help. There was some disturbance so couldnt hear it clearly. Can someone put what was said.

I think I should rewatch the episode after reading your post. I can see it in a better light.

Shruthi di Samay as u said will bring the equation of Arjun-Saanjh equation to question. Like u had told earlier that Samay not only will bring out Maya's Sach he will target Saanjh too. Arjun's relationship with Saanjh in more than friendship n less than love I think. And yes Maya in S1 had all rights to be insecure. Sply Holi track🥱

Maya said she always keeps proofs for her crimes so that someone finds them n saves her.

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

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Posted: 8 years ago

#204

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@khushi I will never believe a mother was helpless to protect the child. If she wants she can, only she needs the will.

Agree 100%

I wonder what justification the CVS have in store for Jhanvi's spineless behaviour in being unable to protect Maya from Ashwin...how can a mother be at peace with herself while her child is being beaten black n blue???😲

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#205

Who has started that killing spree Khushi. I would have agreed to you if Maya had killed Ashwin before Vandana took Arjun from the mandap. Maya had a past. A past which she spoke to the media. And Ashwin spoke something to Vandana. Vandana doesnt even think of what Maya spoke when she takes Arjun from mandap.

It was after that Maya once again becomes psycho. She goes for killing Ashwin. Again she tries to be good. She protects Saanjh from burning. Only to see her hugging her hubby. She is pushed back. So VM and Saanjh are in a way responsible for festering of that wound.

Ayan I would say is the collateral damage. He has not directly festered her wound, he came to rescue his brother, in drunken state man handled her, should have been punished for that but definetely not for what he got the punishment. Ayan is the only victim I see, no one else.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#206

ok Aditi so Saanjh finding that proof means she will save Maya. It does add up with my theory of the 2 birth dates Saanjh finds of Maya. It also add upto the first scene where Arjun sees an arrogant lady and Saanjh sees Maya's tears. The earring giving back, the mangalsutra giving back. yes it all adds up to Saanjh saving Maya.

She has to else she is not Prem's daughter and I would be the first one to murder CVs 😆😆, if Saanjh tells sob story like Vandana. Meine bache ke liye shaadi ki. I have a lot of expectation from this character

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#207

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
ok Aditi so Saanjh finding that proof means she will save Maya. It does add up with my theory of the 2 birth dates Saanjh finds of Maya. It also add upto the first scene where Arjun sees an arrogant lady and Saanjh sees Maya's tears. The earring giving back, the mangalsutra giving back. yes it all adds up to Saanjh saving Maya.
She has to else she is not Prem's daughter and I would be the first one to murder CVs 😆😆, if Saanjh tells sob story like Vandana. Meine bache ke liye shaadi ki. I have a lot of expectation from this character

Also in ArYa wedding Saanjh made Maya's 7th vow which was very destructive n dark turn into a constructive one.

Maya was like "pyar Ke liye marna" Saanjh said "Pyaar Ke liye Jeena chahiye"

Infact I loved Saanjh in ArYa wedding

So yeah she might go to save Arjun but end up saving Maya, but saving Maya mean saving Maya from herself. Her past n karma.

Shruthi di I was not talking about Saanjh getting a clean chit , I like her barring the Holi track n court case track 😆

I just don't want CVs to shove this down my throat that Ashwin was innocent n Jhanvi was innocent 🤢

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sunithi

@sunithi

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#208

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Suniti, Maya is ill because of her childhood abuse by Ashwin, n her spineless mother...

Vandana, Saanjh, Ayan- all are Maya's victims...we can't say that Maya is what she is because of V, S, A...the mother in V saw thru Maya's facade from the beginning n hence she couldn't accept her...today's episode proved that while Maya was pretending to be a good bahu in the Sharma household, she had killed her father a couple if days back, n almost killed her mother a few days later...so clearly, it was all a pretence which Vandana saw thru...which mother can accept a psycho killer for her son??...think n answer..

maya always confessed her crimes and doings...she didn't mention that as pretence .I think Shruti di has answered about victims..

But I like to add will not support Ayan as victim also..his flithy dialogues can never sync with his action of saving his brother..when did their action matched with their words..

Maya ve been mad and bad by her parents means this cunning world didn't given her chance to prove her good side also..who is the victim then??

Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago

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sunithi

@sunithi

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#209

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Suniti, Maya is ill because of her childhood abuse by Ashwin, n her spineless mother...

Vandana, Saanjh, Ayan- all are Maya's victims...we can't say that Maya is what she is because of V, S, A...the mother in V saw thru Maya's facade from the beginning n hence she couldn't accept her...today's episode proved that while Maya was pretending to be a good bahu in the Sharma household, she had killed her father a couple if days back, n almost killed her mother a few days later...so clearly, it was all a pretence which Vandana saw thru...which mother can accept a psycho killer for her son??...think n answer..

sorry mobile issues

Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago

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sunithi

@sunithi

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#210

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Suniti, Maya is ill because of her childhood abuse by Ashwin, n her spineless mother...

Vandana, Saanjh, Ayan- all are Maya's victims...we can't say that Maya is what she is because of V, S, A...the mother in V saw thru Maya's facade from the beginning n hence she couldn't accept her...today's episode proved that while Maya was pretending to be a good bahu in the Sharma household, she had killed her father a couple if days back, n almost killed her mother a few days later...so clearly, it was all a pretence which Vandana saw thru...which mother can accept a psycho killer for her son??...think n answer..

sorry

Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago

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