Dance of Time and Illusion- New Thread Part 89 updated page 143 - Page 22

Originally posted by: sunithi

She doesn't need to know what's she is doing is wrong,she knows.she knows what's is correct way of living also..only a thing she need a chance to prove she can be good..the world never given her ...she has to know,she can live by trusting herself,self respecting herself and valuing her for that she needs treatment..

1st of all she needed Jhanvi to hold on to life so protected her from Ashwin in all means,now to surivive she thinks she needs Arjun,so again doing all mean things..she jux need to value herself,that's the redemption..

What an episode,great execution of scenes..No1 can justify the way Cvcs justified Maya..her actions r wrong but reasons r correct..

Bravo Cvcs for showing,it's Maya who choose to go mental asylum rather than other people winning ..

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Suniti, Maya is ill because of her childhood abuse by Ashwin, n her spineless mother...

Vandana, Saanjh, Ayan- all are Maya's victims...we can't say that Maya is what she is because of V, S, A...the mother in V saw thru Maya's facade from the beginning n hence she couldn't accept her...today's episode proved that while Maya was pretending to be a good bahu in the Sharma household, she had killed her father a couple if days back, n almost killed her mother a few days later...so clearly, it was all a pretence which Vandana saw thru...which mother can accept a psycho killer for her son??...think n answer..

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Who has started that killing spree Khushi. I would have agreed to you if Maya had killed Ashwin before Vandana took Arjun from the mandap. Maya had a past. A past which she spoke to the media. And Ashwin spoke something to Vandana. Vandana doesnt even think of what Maya spoke when she takes Arjun from mandap.

It was after that Maya once again becomes psycho. She goes for killing Ashwin. Again she tries to be good. She protects Saanjh from burning. Only to see her hugging her hubby. She is pushed back. So VM and Saanjh are in a way responsible for festering of that wound.

Ayan I would say is the collateral damage. He has not directly festered her wound, he came to rescue his brother, in drunken state man handled her, should have been punished for that but definetely not for what he got the punishment. Ayan is the only victim I see, no one else.

Originally posted by: aekiel

@Aditi, the garbage incident took place right after Maya orchestrated the event at the door- she banged her own hand against it, and made it look to Saanjh and Ayaan that Vandana had shut the door on her.

To VM, the incident at the door would've felt like all her worst fears coming true. That her DIL could orchestrate situations and manipulate them to her benefit. Add to that the scenes of Maya breaking the glass when Arjun-Saanjh danced (only VM saw that), and the one where Maya ate the mirchi.

I don't condone her throwing garbage, but Maya's act at the door cannot be ignored.

Originally posted by: aditi97

I do keep in mind each n every scene while forming an opinion about any character. I also remember Maya trying to suffocate VM with the necklace. And I never thought that she was genuine in her efforts to change.

But like u said Vandana's action of throwing garbage can't be condoned. Her act of not giving ashirwaad to her DIL when she was falling on her feet can't be justified

Originally posted by: anshvi

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In my opinion she needs to know what is rigth and wrong...in her own mind she gives justifications for her crimes like when Mom did not listen to my screams and Arjun will love me more if mom dies...there is no sense of realisation..earlier also she used to justify her wrong actions infront of God and then she proceeded with them.

She needs to understand that her justifisations doesn't make her actions right.

Now in my opinion one can't say that no one gave her a chance to become good...firstly she is mentally ill , secondly she did get chances but she did not avail them coz she is not stable to understand that she can become a good person and stay happy..her insecurities , her deep rooted fears , her fear of Arjun leaving her stops her from becoming good , her illness stops her from leading a normal life...a person is equally or more respoinsible for his own actions as much as others' actions that led him to behave in a certain way.

She is not selfless , she wants Arjun for Herself coz of insecurities , coz he is her love , she wants things to happen as per her choice , she wants to stay in control all the time , she wants Arjun to give her the priority everytime , she does things for herself.

She doesn't value for herself and does not value others also

For me if there is any chance of redemption for her then it would mean that Maya needs to realise first that she did take a wrong path , she needs to repent , she needs to learn to TRUST ,she needs to have Faith , she needs to learn to let go , she needs to learn that love cannot be controlled..she needs value not only herself but others as well.

And i do not think that her reasons are right...she tried to kill Jhanvi today...what was the reason ?

Reason was that Arjun will love her more which is absoultely wrong.

Neither her actions are right nor her actions in my opinion.

Two wrongs can never make a right

Originally posted by: sumz_d

The part when Maya was trying to suffocate VM with that necklace was of that time when Maya's patience was broken. Because earlier Maya had genuinely tried to be accepted by VM. Her falling on her feet and begging was not a lie.

She genuinely had tried to win VM's heart. And even the time of Maya's grahpravesh. There also VM was over the top. The way she cursed her new DIL just because her new DIL was hurt by the glass. VM blindly hated and hates Maya.

Even after the panditji's prediction, VM only chose to listen and focus on that one negative point. Instead of understanding panditji's words she chose to believe and see what she wanted to. Panditji himself was shocked upon hearing VM's words about stopping ArYa's marriage. Never did once the Panditji said that ArYa should not get married. If VM so believes in Panditji's predictions then what happened that time?

Why that partial belief?

Originally posted by: aditi97

+1

Maya's problem right now is that she's blaming others and not seeing the darkness in herself.

As u said Maya needs to trust Arjun. Earlier Arjun's friendship with Saanjh made her insecure but now Arjun has made it clear that he loves her n only her. She is carrying his baby. Thus she has the much needed security n assurance with her, she has the love which she was looking for. Arjun has done a lot to gain her trust IMO. Even forgiven her for most of her wrong doings. I think he has an idea abt her trapping Ayan too, barring the Samay part. That would blow him.

Now it's her turn to live up to his expectations of not going towards darkness. But she is again using her twisted logic.

Maya's enemy is not the external forces now, it was earlier but not now, right now her biggest enemy is Maya herself.