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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

Aditi& anshvi I feel Maya need to trust herself then she will start trusting others...I don't think she blames other for her darkness,she knows what she is doing it's bad and she has issues. She wants to get healed instead of punished.she knows her dark side,not blaming others for her deeds but she is pointing them for pushing her again again to darkness...in a way those people whom Maya pointed r responsible too,world is responsible too as Arjun said..world refused to give her a chance or not giving her a chance right??

Arjun broke all his promises,how the word trust will work in their relationship..will he won't break his promises again??..sday samay asked Arjun the exact questions Maya would ve asked long back about saajun..dusky only needs me at this time,it's Arjun soch,that's jux absurd..dusky and Arjun need to retrace the boundary of their relationship...as soon as they saw samay,both jux came out of that hug,their face showed some kind of remorse. Arjun has to reassure samay,he doesn't love dusky,see Arjun has to repeat his words again again as his action doesn't match with his thoughts..

S Arjun said he will help her to heal,for that Arjun needs to show the right direction..what he did,juxx took back Maya back to her past..when his word matched with action in hospital,maya ctrlled herself..when Arjun priotise and retrace the boundary line of his friendship,Maya will trust him again..she need his words to match with his action for that she need to trust herself...
Still Maya puts Arjun above her baby and blaming Jhanvi. Maya is hypocrite mom as of now..as she is not thinking baby above Arjun,how it could be assurance to her..is Arjun put their baby above any1. As per situation,he jux chosen to be dusky ka duffer not the father of her child.maya will not chose her baby above any1 unless she lose Arjun..


Again I think Maya was wrong in asking Arjun not to go...Saanjh needed him and Arjun has maintained again and again that he doesn't love Saanjh but she is his friend who was facing the toughest time of her life.
Maya needs to understand that others' can get hurt too and planning a dinner date on the same night when Prem died and forcing Arjun to celebrate shows how insecure she is.

As I said she doesn't trust anyone in my opinion.

As I said that she doesn't value herself as well as others

I do think she gives justifications for her crimes before commiting them coz she thinks what she does becomes right...she said that she will kill Jhanvi for her child so that Arjun comes to her and stays with her..here she justified killing Jhanvi by saying that she is doing this for her child.
She doesn't realise that none of her justifisations can make her actions right..they wil remain crimes

She doesn't have this realisation.

Even if the world didn't give her a chance still what she is doing is wrong..
As I often say two wrongs will never make a right.

I do feel Arjun loves her , he left his family and Saanjh for Maya , she supported Maya and not his own brother who was his jaan , he fought with Vandana and Saanjh for Maya , he cares for her...but instead of looking at the bright side Maya still doesn't trust him..she wants absolute control on him and everyone else.

Maya neglects the good in other people and only focuses on their mistakes to justify her actions coz she is not well and there is no sense of realisation.

She doesn't want to get healed at this moment...she is not trying to become good...she pretended in front of Arjun.

Blaming others for our actions are never of any use.

And that is why I feel she needs treatment and that is the first step towards any kind of redemption for her.
Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

Maya owns up for her action and she blames people for pushing her into darkness..that's the reason ,she kept the pen drive..she wants saanj to find out about her action and put her in asylum...she did say that..she keeps evidence for action as she owns responsible for it..she is ready for punishement.. all of a sudden our hero Arjun gave assurance to heal her,so she again wanted to erase her past again as she does always..

Once Arjun leaves,Maya will change ..she needs that relate check..

Till now Maya seems to be hypocrite mom as she is not putting her baby above Arjun but blaming Jhanvi for the same..other that her action and words matches...

Hope she gets healed and get deserved punishement,I really don't want to see Maya death as it makes the Arya baby another Arjun or Maya..let's see how it unfolds..


Contradiction in same sentence.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@anshvi I ve explained my take on Arjun few pages back..I am so mad at him right now,so not wanted to repeat those words again
Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: samaira_samy


Contradiction in same sentence.

action is diffrent,she was ready to take blame of killing Ashwin when Arjun was about to get arrested...blaming them for making her to do the thing is diffrent right??if she refuses punishment or not ready to go mental asylum then it's wrong..when she accepts I am bimar is jux correct right..
She is accepting her crimes which r her actions but u people didn't give me chance is blaming,,Arjun also blamed the world not giving chance to Maya,maya is also doing the same..
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Posted: 8 years ago
I always feel that Maya was sexually abused by her father , and he did something huge on her ninth birthday that s the reason she crippled him . A new personality of Maya was born that day to protect herself. I don't know if I am right or getting way too inspired by Sidney Sheldon s Tell me your dreams .
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

@anshvi I ve explained my take on Arjun few pages back..I am so mad at him right now,so not wanted to repeat those words again


Arjun's crimes are:

1) no brain
2)total duffer
3)bhola
4)egoistic
5) combination of above 4 make him fodder for easy manipulation...which Maya is doing with Arjun...

Maya has ruined Arjun's life...this is the reward he got from her for standing up against Ashwin for her...
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: hugsandkisses

I always feel that Maya was sexually abused by her father , and he did something huge on her ninth birthday that s the reason she crippled him . A new personality of Maya was born that day to protect herself. I don't know if I am right or getting way too inspired by Sidney Sheldon s Tell me your dreams .


I very much doubt that...Indian tv ain't ready to tackle incest yet...
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

action is diffrent,she was ready to take blame of killing Ashwin when Arjun was about to get arrested...blaming them for making her to do the thing is diffrent right??if she refuses punishment or not ready to go mental asylum then it's wrong..when she accepts I am bimar is jux correct right..

She is accepting her crimes which r her actions but u people didn't give me chance is blaming,,Arjun also blamed the world not giving chance to Maya,maya is also doing the same..


Well, that's where i disagree.
She blames people for pushing her into darkness,making her do things "which she doesn't want to".How is that owning up to her actions?

I am ill and i need help is a facade she puts on for Arjun. If she truly means what she says, she would seek conventional methods.Like telling Arjun to take her to psychiatrist or seeking actual medical help.

She doesn't want that.She just want to keep Arjun to herself, no matter what.What she has done uptill now is all under this mentality.

She can kill her mother for few hugs and sympathy of Arjun. So, imagine what will she do if she is jealous of her child, the trauma that innocent baby is going to endure.



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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: samaira_samy


Contradiction in same sentence.

whatever she has done,she accepts but balming others for pushing her into darkness..Arjun blame the same,world didn't give her a chance..but what she did is wrong she knows that..that's what I am calling her she owns her actions..every one of them Callas Maya pagal and expecting her do the right things.she says u r all pushing me again to be a pagal to do pagal pan..but I agree I am pagal so did that it's Maya take ..
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

whatever she has done,she accepts but balming others for pushing her into darkness..Arjun blame the same,world didn't give her a chance..but what she did is wrong she knows that..that's what I am calling her she owns her actions..every one of them Callas Maya pagal and expecting her do the right things.she says u r all pushing me again to be a pagal to do pagal pan..but I agree I am pagal so did that it's Maya take ..


And that is where she is wrong...As i said one is responsible for one's own actions...She does a crime and then she gives justification for that but she doesn't realise that justifications cannot make a wrong act right.
an eye for an eye turns the whole world blind.

Let's say a man slaps other man and in return that other man stabs the first man to death...He killed the man when he got slapped...Now this cannot be justified.

Same is the case with Maya.

She is crossing all limits and then justifying them...Her crimes are extreme.

If Vandana did not give her a chance definitely she was not right the way she behaved but this doesn't give right to Maya to physically torture Vandana

If Saanjh was close to Arjun, and behaved immaturely, this does not give right to Maya to plant a pyscho like Samay in her life

If Jhanvi didn't support her , this doesn't mean that Maya has the right to kill her.

If Ayaan used abusive language, this doesn't mean that Maya will destroy his whole life.

Owing to her illness and her crimes Maya has turned into a criminal...she is not a victim at the moment but the one who is making others victims.

She needs to understand that destroying others' lives because at one point or the other they misbehaved with u is not right, it is not upto Maya to punish anyone...She is not a crusader or a judge or God to punish people that too in such heinous and extreme ways.

Pointing fingers at others is often the easiest but introspection is the hardest...even normal people also blame others for our suffering but what we forget is to introspect and look at ourselves as well.

For that to happen she first needs to get treatment, then realize and introspect , then repent for her deeds, then value others and herself, she needs to have faith and trust and learn to let go.

At least for me this is how she can redeem if there is any chance of redemption at all.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago

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