Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131 - Page 94

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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska link is in my signature iteself. Shruthi's writing index. Also one more thing if people read those parts as hard core feminists they might not get the essence of it and if people are MCPs or have a patriarchal bend they will tell it is a joke.
But if you are a person who believes in co existence, if you are a person who believes man and woman is needed on this earth for the sustenance of life, if you are person for whom equality means give and take, respect each other you will be able to appreciate it more.

Aditi can give more views on it, as she was a regular reader of it in the SKR forum.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Laska

If you expect that a person who supposedly loves will not at least lie a million times a day is too much, then I have no words. Already about his hands generally keep quiet, which must be broken in several places, as minimum. I had no illusions about the presence of the brain or the maturity of Duffer, but Duffer went far overboard. If too much was expected of him, this is one thing. But Duffer, like the other army of hypocrites, was just a hypocrite and no one else
It's not Arjun's fault. Not Duffer's fault. This is Dusky's fault. It was Dusky who found this damned photographer vacancy . And it was Dusky who brought Duffer to the cafe to get Duffer jealousy by using her fake future fiance, where Maya had a meeting. And the devil get out Duffer to intervene in the situation with Ashwin
Dusky is the main link, with eliminate which could be changed everything. Not even at one point. At many stages, eliminate of this link would change everything. Even now
Maya's problem at this point isn't Ashwin. But Jhanvi. Maya's condition in the past and now isn't Ashwin. But Jhanvi. And Duffer now
Yes, Ashwin was a very bad person. But he was a very bad person, not horrible. A horrible person was and is mother of the millennium Jhanvi. Like Duffer now
Jhanvi had millions of options to protect her daughter, to save her daughter. But Jhanvi didn't do this
Just imagine, if in Maya's life in childhood was not Jhanvi, what would happen? If the police hadn't helped, the child would have simply escaped. Barefoot, away, without looking back. Let on the street, but the child would be safe. She had a chances of salvation. In different variations, but these chances were
But with Jhanvi, these chances are gone. Because the child sees the victim. Maya saw a victim in Jhanvi and therefore could not escape. Therefore, she was forced to endure the torture and sadism of Ashvin. Therefore she was forced to fight endlessly for life and save her so-called mother of millenium. Infinitely to fight in the initially lost war. You can't save a victim who isn't a victim
If Jhanvi was a mother, she would save her daughter. It doesn't matter how. Though to send her to the grandfather. In the shelter. To another family. To stage Maya's death. But to save. But in this case Jhanvi would have lost money. The money that gave Jhanvi the opportunity to keep in her life sadist Ashwin, who tortured her own daughter Maya. Maya is the key to the treasure chest. Jhanvi isn't a victim and never was victim
Jhanvi is the chief hypocrite in Maya's life. Like Duffer now
This is the problem. Here the world is distorted. Here are the curved mirrors
The day when Maya says that she is "Not normal, Bad&Mad" will be my new holiday in the calendar. Then I will can say that she is at least on the path to recovery. But rather, she is more normal than all the others combined
Yes, Maya must save herself. And most importantly, Maya must understand that she saves herself. Only Maya herself. Nobody else. Maya must get rid of the illusion that someone is saving her, someone is protecting, someone cares, someone loves. Because no one saves Maya, no one protects, no one cares, no one loves. Neither in past nor in present


I agree with what you said about Jhanvi.
I agree with what you say about the Duffer too.

But when it comes to healing, it only Maya and Maya alone, who has to take the resolve to get better.
But before that, someone has to let her know that she's sick. She is not aware that she's sick.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: HadhSeJyada


I agree with what you said about Jhanvi.
I agree with what you say about the Duffer too.

But when it comes to healing, it only Maya and Maya alone, who has to take the resolve to get better.
But before that, someone has to let her know that she's sick. She is not aware that she's sick.

Who can tell Maya that she is sick? If in Maya's life there is not a single valid normal good sane person, who can tell her that she is sick?
"Only then she can get better" - she was better, she is better
Maya is afraid that she is not normal. That she is bad&mad. And throughout Maya's life each person constantly every day proves her that she isn't normal, that she is bad&mad
To remove the shift, you need to remove the point in which it is located. The consequences themselves can be established in their place, if we remove the root cause of what is happening
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Originally posted by: Laska

Who can tell Maya that she is sick? If in Maya's life there is not a single valid normal good sane person, who can tell her that she is sick?
"Only then she can get better" - she was better, she is better
Maya is afraid that she is not normal. That she is bad&mad. And throughout Maya's life each person constantly every day proves her that she isn't normal, that she is bad&mad
To remove the shift, you need to remove the point in which it is located. The consequences themselves can be established in their place, if we remove the root cause of what is happening


Removing the point in which is located all of a sudden will lead to fatal results for her.
Therapy is a step by step healing process aided by medication.
But the first step is to accept the illness by the individual. If that's not done, the chances of recovery are close to none.
Arjun should have helped her in that part of her healing process, he was needed to be the initiator, given the control he has got over her.
Rest was to be traveled by Maya alone.
Because it's her fight. She is the one who needs to get better first and then slam her wellness on the people who have deemed her as mad and bad.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska the foremost step of healing is make the person accept you are sick. See that point can break you, even people might go to suicide, but if that moment is survived then if Arjun supports she will fight the battle.
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@HadhSeJyada, for you Maya is a psychopath well, or almost a psychopath
The fatal for Maya isn't the removal of the shift point. But its existence
If you pull out the shift, the blow will be very strong. Literally on the verge of life and death. But if you leave the shift treatment is impossible in principle. Because in the shift is the root of the problem. This is how to treat a virus, but not to eliminate the virus from the body
Tell honestly, in what do you want to turn out Maya? In mahaan? Abla-nari? She will be cured, come to Sharma's house and strike VM with her good and sanity? How? Fall on her knees and beg for forgiveness? Or pour tears in corner next few years on her knees?
Just obviously take from Maya her brain. Ability to think. Ability to solve problems. Maya should become compassionate to everyone and everything. Leave unsafe. Learn unconditional trust
Just wondering how many seconds will this absolutely unviable substance can live in the real world?

@shruthiravi, I know this very well. Accept the disease is the first step on the path to healing, etc
But I have a slightly different variation of what can happen. In general, there are many variations. Is or not. What. Level. Need or not. Where. Who. How. In what way. etc
Let's not talk about Duffer, he is the last person on earth who can provide real support. The result of his support, attention, understanding, treatment and methods we are seeing right now. Don't think that we have a positive picture before our eyes, and this is the result of his hard work for 3 years

But Maya will be treated, think the probability of this is very high. But how she will be treated and what will be treated, this is a slightly different question

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Posted: 8 years ago
ok girls...i finally finished GG the book. What a book it is... and Maya is Amy. But how much of Amy will they make her be? Arjun sure is Nik, Samay is desi and I guess Go us Ayaan and Andie is Saanjh but our cvs have taken a lot of creative liberty with Saanjhs charecter. VM is Niks dad.

I seriously want to write an elaborate piece comparing GG the book with Beyhadh... the makers are trying to come bk to GG no matter what paths they take... and it hopefully will not be Arjun but Maya faking her death and ending up living with Samay but killing him to escape him. Saarjun are going to get closer and Maya will punish Arjun...

Maya will not be all good... even as a child Ashwin may be wrong and bad but trust me maya is no angel 😆

Want all romance from BH but don't think that's coming and the end game is ArYa and Arjun Will become what Maya wants him to be... more Tom.
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@poppins what I have understood about GG( I have not read it) I dont think CVs will to the extend the book went with Amy. In indian show I dont think they will have it in them to take thus far. Taking the story to this extend in the Indian scenario I need to applaud CVs. Anyways let us see
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Originally posted by: Laska

@HadhSeJyada, for you Maya is a psychopath well, or almost a psychopath

The fatal for Maya isn't the removal of the shift point. But its existence
If you pull out the shift, the blow will be very strong. Literally on the verge of life and death. But if you leave the shift treatment is impossible in principle. Because in the shift is the root of the problem. This is how to treat a virus, but not to eliminate the virus from the body
Tell honestly, in what do you want to turn out Maya? In mahaan? Abla-nari? She will be cured, come to Sharma's house and strike VM with her good and sanity? How? Fall on her knees and beg for forgiveness? Or pour tears in corner next few years on her knees?
Just obviously take from Maya her brain. Ability to think. Ability to solve problems. Maya should become compassionate to everyone and everything. Leave unsafe. Learn unconditional trust
Just wondering how many seconds will this absolutely unviable substance can live in the real world?


No, if you read my posts carefully, I have refuted the claims of her being a psychopath. To me, she suffers from a cocktail of illnesses like OCPD, panic disorder and psychosis.

I was completely talking about the therapeutic side of the healing process.
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Originally posted by: poppinss

ok girls...i finally finished GG the book. What a book it is... and Maya is Amy. But how much of Amy will they make her be? Arjun sure is Nik, Samay is desi and I guess Go us Ayaan and Andie is Saanjh but our cvs have taken a lot of creative liberty with Saanjhs charecter. VM is Niks dad.


I seriously want to write an elaborate piece comparing GG the book with Beyhadh... the makers are trying to come bk to GG no matter what paths they take... and it hopefully will not be Arjun but Maya faking her death and ending up living with Samay but killing him to escape him. Saarjun are going to get closer and Maya will punish Arjun...

Maya will not be all good... even as a child Ashwin may be wrong and bad but trust me maya is no angel 😆

Want all romance from BH but don't think that's coming and the end game is ArYa and Arjun Will become what Maya wants him to be... more Tom.

bold - I also hope so. The converse doesn't make the slightest sense
Duffer can't be "re-educated," he can't be good and sane, he can only be killed😆😆😆
Hell, I need to watch this film, after all😆😆😆

@shruthiravi, by the way, if on this way with Maya there will be especially Duffer, then the situation will become even worse. She will acquire yet another problem type of dependence literally to death, but with a high probability she will not get rid of the shift
By the way 2, Duffer is also sick. He is in the stage of denial, and he has a megalomania

@HadhSeJyada, you will treat the consequence, not the cause. You can even cure the consequence. Even lead to a perfect picture for society, a kind of biorobot that will act in accordance with the program 0 or 1, and no choice. But at any time will be affected the shift all will start again. She can get a new bouquet of diseases. Until the shift isn't ruled out, everything will be repeated again. But with some variations
And if look at other characters, what kind of bouquet of diseases do they have?

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