Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131 - Page 93

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Maya meets yet again Ganesha, her true friend! And she does not need Him any longer as she says to Him that once again!
Ganesha was originally on the side of a little girl who suffered a lot, in the hands of her own father!
When she decided to dump Him, He was still kind to her, by staying at least neutral to her!

Now, when she is ready to give Him to Saanjh, as desired by Arjun's step mother, will Ganesha start staying with Saanjh's side? A non-event or another symbolism?

In the latest Promo, Maya tells both Vandana and Saanjh, who are tied up to a chair that "Maya ke liye qabar khodne wale, usse pehle dafan hote hai".

Wah Wah Kya bath hai!

But, is Maya going to dig her own grave, as she finds her opponents are not worth their salt?!

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Posted: 8 years ago
Shruti, I love the fact that inspite of being this crazy some part of Maya does care for Samay. She looked upset seeing his sms selfie's with blood😳
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Hadhsejyada I am actually waiting for those parts. Because it was those things that made VM emotionally torture her which forced her to go back to her old ways of manipulation. Which people told VM had the right to do as she is the mother. I as a person believe your beliefs creates your thoughts and from your thoughts stems your action. I have attended NLP ( Neuro Linguistic Programme) sessions and this is what they teach you and I have personally experienced the benefits of managing the thoughts positively.

So before condemning someone, hating someone, uttering curses to someone we have to validate our beliefs. Being Mother or Father doesnt give anyone supreme knowledge. We all are humans. A bit of empathy can be helpful at times.

And her talk to Ganesha I can personally connect, because I also talk to Krishna as if he is a friend of mine. I know how it feels when you connect to God that way. When you feel alone what kind of solace it gives.


No matter what anyone says to back Vandana's actions up, she'd never be justified or be forgiven. (That doesn't mean Maya's actions are right, though)
And you're very very right when you say she's just a mother. A human. Not someone with supreme knowledge.
And from whatever minimal knowledge I have of the Hindu mythology, Gods are known to be at the wrong side too!
There was this show on Epic, Dharmakshetra.
Try watching it.
It's a wonderful show which is told from the perspective of the participants of MB in the court of Chitragupta. The presentation is perfect and the reason is great too!
And it too tells that everyone were at fault somewhere and no one is perfect, even the gods.


Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Maya meets yet again Ganesha, her true friend! And she does not need Him any longer as she says to Him that once again!
Ganesha was originally on the side of a little girl who suffered a lot, in the hands of her own father!
When she decided to dump Him, He was still kind to her, by staying at least neutral to her!

Now, when she is ready to give Him to Saanjh, as desired by Arjun's step mother, will Ganesha start staying with Saanjh's side? A non-event or another symbolism?

In the latest Promo, Maya tells both Vandana and Saanjh, who are tied up to a chair that "Maya ke liye qabar khodne wale, usse pehle dafan hote hai".

Wah Wah Kya bath hai!

But, is Maya going to dig her own grave, as she finds her opponents are not worth their salt?!


She said she might be giving Ganesha to Saanjh for now but she'd get him back in her team, no matter what.
Edited by HadhSeJyada - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Nithu the need for acceptance is there in anyone, especially when you dont stick to the stereotype set by the society. I can understand Maya to some extend because I have been called rebel in my family from childhood. Panchali and Durga were my role models and I used to question a lot on patriarchy and its norms. If someone tried to control me, I will check on ways to break it, though unlike Maya I knew my limits due to the Bhagavad Gita classes I attended from childhood and also because of the indulgence and love I got as the eldest grandchild in the family. I believe in fighting within the system than rebel against it.
@manya no I wont take you wrong. I am not analyzing MB now is because I dont want this thread to be a war front. Also I believe silence is good at times. There is a time for everything. So I will do it the moment illusion lifts. Where power of love overcomes power of time. Yesterday's episode told me once again it will happen.

@aditi if redemption doesnt happen it only show this world has place for mahanta ki moorat ppl Saanjh who got everything in life in a gold platter and yet is unhappy because she believes Maya snatched Arjun from her and no place for someone like Maya who had fought her way up to survive.

@isha that's the beautiful dialogue. You wont allow my love to bow his head. Yes time cannot allow Arjun to stand with bowed head in front of society because of Maya. If time can do that for her, then she will believe time is with her, time loves her. It is more about the metaphor time than the man time.

@Darling in 7th vow itself she tells, if you go away from me I will become the hanging coir, if you remain close then I am thw garland.

@Hadhsejyada Maya will get her punishment. But I cant take Maya as the only bad character of the show. Situations play a major role in her actions. Especially the bad actions.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: HadhSeJyada


No matter what anyone says to back Vandana's actions up, she'd never be justified or be forgiven. (That doesn't mean Maya's actions are right, though)
And you're very very right when you say she's just a mother. A human. Not someone with supreme knowledge.
And from whatever minimal knowledge I have of the Hindu mythology, Gods are known to be at the wrong side too!
There was this show on Epic, Dharmakshetra.
Try watching it.
It's a wonderful show which is told from the perspective of the participants of MB in the court of Chitragupta. The presentation is perfect and the reason is great too!
And it too tells that everyone were at fault somewhere and no one is perfect, even the gods.



She said she might be giving Ganesha to Saanjh for now but she'd get him back in her team, no matter what.

Yes, indeed! Did she mean by 'hook or crook', she would get Him to her side? Not surprised to know as only Maya possesses such 'unbelievable manipulative' skills! Will her final battle be with God?
Just like supremely inflated egoistic Asuras who believed in their invincibility, after conquering everyone, decided to take on God Himself to test their strength!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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@shruthiravi, you want to say that Maya will be the victim in Samay's hands (don't say that he will become another Ashwin, we already have too many of his incarnations, literally every character and whiner Duffer in the first place). Whiner Duffer just out of the blue turns into a super-man spider-man knight in shining armor will save Maya from the evil Samay's hands. And Maya, having lost consciousness from happiness, will return to Duffer?
Why the hell is this whiner Duffer supposed to get the easiest way out of all possible to come back again? Is not there too much freebie for him?
For three years he completely destroyed Maya, he will receive it again, to permanently and irretrievably bury her? So that neither Samay, nor time, nor Ganesha, no one could save her?
Maya didn't get Duffer's whiner in a balloon, but after she didn't get it either. He was never with her. Maya saved him. And his highness whiner Duffer simply condescended to accept Maya's love and Maya, and again the same? Is not it too freebie for a man who has never really done anything intelligible, but only destroyed Maya's life?

@ishakumar, just wonder, and when Duffer save her first time?
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Originally posted by: Laska

@shruthiravi, you want to say that Maya will be the victim in Samay's hands (don't say that he will become another Ashwin, we already have too many of his incarnations, literally every character and whiner Duffer in the first place). Whiner Duffer just out of the blue turns into a super-man spider-man knight in shining armor will save Maya from the evil Samay's hands. And Maya, having lost consciousness from happiness, will return to Duffer?

Why the hell is this whiner Duffer supposed to get the easiest way out of all possible to come back again? Is not there too much freebie for him?
For three years he completely destroyed Maya, he will receive it again, to permanently and irretrievably bury her? So that neither Samay, nor time, nor Ganesha, no one could save her?
Maya didn't get Duffer's whiner in a balloon, but after she didn't get it either. He was never with her. Maya saved him. And his highness whiner Duffer simply condescended to accept Maya's love and Maya, and again the same? Is not it too freebie for a man who has never really done anything intelligible, but only destroyed Maya's life?

@ishakumar, just wonder, and when Duffer save her first time?

Laska well said, in fact from her dialogues about Samay made me sure that she is gonna go with Samay at end😆😆 Somewhere she realizes Samay's love and she does feel guilty of his pain. He is the only character who loves her selflessly right now even though she keeps abusing him physically
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Laska well said, in fact from her dialogues about Samay made me sure that she is gonna go with Samay at end😆😆 Somewhere she realizes Samay's love and she does feel guilty of his pain. He is the only character who loves her selflessly right now even though she keeps abusing him physically

She exploits him emotionally too.

And it's not really Arjun's fault.
We (including Maya) expected too much from him. And he's truly very incompetent.

The only person who can save her is she herself. Not Samay. Not Arjun.
If we look closely, she herself got past her fear of Ashwin.
Not an ounce of intentional help from Arjun's side expect from the display of Ashwin being defeatable. Because in front of her, Ashwin could never be defeated.
But for that she needs to be made aware that she's not normal. Because she reeks of her delusion which deems her as normal and righteous.

Edited by HadhSeJyada - 8 years ago
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@Laska there are lot of things which I have not said. As I said in your post. Who is the victim. Vandana is a victim, Saanjh is a victim, Arjun is a victim, Maya is not. She is giri hui aurat, she is successful aurat, she is everything but victim. She has to be a victim, a victim in true sense, she gets the power to fight it out with no one able to stop her, but it has to look to the world Arjun fought it out 😆😆. and he needs to know who fought it out. Day 14 of MB is all about victim. 😃. Dynamics of Prakriti and Sanskriti is all about this victimhood 😆😆. If you get time read my analysis of SKR especially the uttarakand part. You will understand what I am telling better. I will put things in perspective once dance of time and illusion finishes. But if you need to know before that you can read that thread.
Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago
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@OriginalsFan, Samay must make sure that Maya will go with him. This is his goal. And he is already losing patience. He knows the right points. He will not play fair. But it still does not give anything in general. At least to me

@HadhSeJyada, If you expect that a person who supposedly loves will not at least lie a million times a day is too much, then I have no words. Already about his hands generally keep quiet, which must be broken in several places, as minimum. I had no illusions about the presence of the brain or the maturity of Duffer, but Duffer went far overboard. If too much was expected of him, this is one thing. But Duffer, like the other army of hypocrites, was just a hypocrite and no one else
It's not Arjun's fault. Not Duffer's fault. This is Dusky's fault. It was Dusky who found this damned photographer vacancy . And it was Dusky who brought Duffer to the cafe to get Duffer jealousy by using her fake future fiance, where Maya had a meeting. And the devil get out Duffer to intervene in the situation with Ashwin
Dusky is the main link, with eliminate which could be changed everything. Not even at one point. At many stages, eliminate of this link would change everything. Even now
Maya's problem at this point isn't Ashwin. But Jhanvi. Maya's condition in the past and now isn't Ashwin. But Jhanvi. And Duffer now
Yes, Ashwin was a very bad person. But he was a very bad person, not horrible. A horrible person was and is mother of the millennium Jhanvi. Like Duffer now
Jhanvi had millions of options to protect her daughter, to save her daughter. But Jhanvi didn't do this
Just imagine, if in Maya's life in childhood was not Jhanvi, what would happen? If the police hadn't helped, the child would have simply escaped. Barefoot, away, without looking back. Let on the street, but the child would be safe. She had a chances of salvation. In different variations, but these chances were
But with Jhanvi, these chances are gone. Because the child sees the victim. Maya saw a victim in Jhanvi and therefore could not escape. Therefore, she was forced to endure the torture and sadism of Ashvin. Therefore she was forced to fight endlessly for life and save her so-called mother of millenium. Infinitely to fight in the initially lost war. You can't save a victim who isn't a victim
If Jhanvi was a mother, she would save her daughter. It doesn't matter how. Though to send her to the grandfather. In the shelter. To another family. To stage Maya's death. But to save. But in this case Jhanvi would have lost money. The money that gave Jhanvi the opportunity to keep in her life sadist Ashwin, who tortured her own daughter Maya. Maya is the key to the treasure chest. Jhanvi isn't a victim and never was victim
Jhanvi is the chief hypocrite in Maya's life. Like Duffer now
This is the problem. Here the world is distorted. Here are the curved mirrors
The day when Maya says that she is "Not normal, Bad&Mad" will be my new holiday in the calendar. Then I will can say that she is at least on the path to recovery. But rather, she is more normal than all the others combined
Yes, Maya must save herself. And most importantly, Maya must understand that she saves herself. Only Maya herself. Nobody else. Maya must get rid of the illusion that someone is saving her, someone is protecting, someone cares, someone loves. Because no one saves Maya, no one protects, no one cares, no one loves. Neither in past nor in present

@shruthiravi, I still don't like this perspective. But it sounds a little better. Although still don't understand why the hell Maya deal with such useless things. Let her rest on the beach
Don't scared me so much😆 I was starting to seriously think about quit this show to hell. My expectations of this advertised phase 3 so crashed into pieces. Can you give a link, please?
Edited by Laska - 8 years ago

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