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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

11/4/2017

What an episode guys. Saanjh says where she is truth is there. Really Saanjh if you were so sure you are standing by truth why you asked Samay not to come to court. Note the point girls, Saanjh asks Karmasakshi not to come to court. It shows her ego. It shows her need to win. Look at the way she prepares the case. yes Saanjh Mathur is a very intelligent lawyer. We all know why Maya gave those punishments to Arjun. He drank booze at night, he stole the movie tickets and he tried to enter her apartment climing 19 floors via window and ordered her. Saanjh Mathur doesnt want to put the reason for those punishments. She just wants the court to see what she wanted them to see. And she tells Maya is the manipulator. In the court Saanjh goes to Arjun Sharma. Didnt I tell Arjun is the weakest link of the defense. He doesnt have to to do anything. In the witness box he will fail Maya. His testimony will fail Maya. That much information Saanjh has about him. Saanjh feels she will finish the case in one hearing. Because she thinks Maya wont do medical.

Coming to Medical yes Maya is scared. Scared of touch. Look at her when Arjun tries to touch her. She thinks of Ayan ripping apart her dress, Ayan on top of her. If it was planned, then that wont play in her mind even when her husband touches her. It wont play if she is just acting the trauma. She is not. Arjun makes her take medical. With coaxing from Arjun she takes medical. Doctor says she is in trauma. What a doctor see, a lawyer cannot see. Because a lawyer want to see only that part where he or she can win the case.

Now look at one of the most interesting thing. Prem and Shubham are not there. It is the 3 ladies Saanjh, Vandana and Suman and it is a lady judge. yes it is the ladies who are going to condemn a woman. I loved the CVs for this. I loved them for showing yes a man rapes a woman, but she is killed and tortured by the mahan devis of the society thus allowing the rapists and molesters to escape.

Samay he tells if he has chosen to follow someone, he will do that. Saanjh thinks it is her. But in Samay's mind it is Maya. Karmasakshi wont intervene, just like Saanjh went between the couples, Karmasakshi cannot go. So Samay stays put. The dance continues. Now the pitch is raised, from the serene ballroom it has moved to the open courtroom.

Beautiful analysis Shruthi
The best part was that Maya not even allowing Arjun to touch her she feels scared even by her husband touch .If Maya was faking she would have given Arjun his right to touch her .
Coming to Samay and Saanjh .Saanjh knows that she will loose thr case by Samay's eye witness statement thats why she tolc him not to come for the sake of their relationship but Samay loves Maya so deeply that he wont leave Maya side.Both whom Saanjh thinks that she loves them loves Maya so immensely and loves her through depth. One is truly in love with Maya and one is obsessed in the love of Maya 😳


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Posted: 8 years ago
So Saanjh proved today that all the values her parents instilled in her has gone down the drain. Today by stopping Samay she tried to stop the truth from coming out. She proved that she knows Maya is right this time but she'll bend the truth the way she want to so as to put down Maya. So the question is "What does she want from her life?"
Her's is one character that was always shown as unprofessional in the show. Even with all the attraction for wealth and power, Arjun still loved his job with a passion. Maya was always a professional lady. But Saanjh is one character who go around lecturing others without actually doing anything in her life.
The problem with Saanjh is that she's always wearing a mask in front of the world. Inside her she's just a jealous and obsessed girl. But she flaunts that mask so effectively that everyone believes her.
Maya was truly traumatized today. You cannot fake that kind of fear. The FB's she got are proof of that. Maya was always a woman dedicated to her husband. So the experience she had with Ayaan must be truly disturbing for her.
Let's see how the truth going to play out. Saanjh can try to bend the truth or hide the truth but it is going to come out one day for sure. That day she's not only going to lose her respect as a lawyer but also the loving parents she have because Prem for one will never support what his daughter is doing right now.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Great post Shruti :) Beyhadh is getting there right- the phase where you wish you could watch all episodes at one time instead of having to wait.. superexcited for this week! 😃
Maya- Maya looks distraught, shaken and hurt - all genuinely this time.. Jen's make up ( those bruises ), swollen eyes, her acting all have added to the portrayal of a women who has been through a lot in the past few days.. Is she faking all of that? Could be.. but I still maintain that Maya most definitely had planned to trap Ayaan but this time her own plan backfired at her.. she had not anticipated the assault, molestation.. She went through the medical examination too.. Don't know much of law but I am guessing that medical examination is part of the court proceedings in such assault cases, for both victim and accused. Not only rape victims but sexual assault or attempt to rape victims also have to go through it.. my guess.

Saanjh - Dusky will loose, Saanjh will win ..by hook or by crook- Hook ( Arjun- phas gaya in the web of questions)- jo kahunga sach kahunga and then he lied about everything that followed that too in the most unconvincing manner possible..Crook- Samay ! So lawyer Saanjh knows Samay's statement can weaken her case.. I don't know how that's gonna work given the fact that Samay had come with police who know that Samay is an eye witness and that must have been noted by the prosecution lawyer. So even if Saanjh asks him not to appear in court, he can be cross examined by the prosecution lawyer.

Saanjh will choose not to look at this case objectively and in isolation because if she does she will find herself weak. She has to connect this incident to Maya's past actions and behavior, to fuel her anger and may I say vengeance. Both these elements were totally on display the moment she put on that black lawyer's suit.. Giving personal remarks, commenting on the case that is yet to be presented in the court.. aisi aurat, wesi aurat.. wow! Its true isn't it- aurat hi aurat ki sabze badi dushman hoti hai..Right you are Shruti- it couldn't a mere co-incidence that its one woman against three in court, assuming the lady judge will be impartial.

Arjun- hmmm.. he seemed to be genuinely concerned about Maya .. but what's with all those statements- Maya can manage anything, Maya gets what she wants... Apparently managing office matters is same as managing to rescue oneself from assault.. * slow clap * Was that Arjun being his duffer self or subtly giving ammunition to Saanjh against Maya.. ?? Because of those statements Saanjh will strengthen her argument proving Maya to be this controlling manipulative psychopath.. Again those unconvincing, non-committal responses to his whereabouts during and before the incident.. Is that just duffer Shama or he is strengthening the case for Saanjh... Maya looked upset and disappointed..

Is Samay gonna let Saanjh ruin Maya? Can't say.. but his statement about sticking to the person he loves makes me wonder.. I want to see more of this guy..
Edited by MistyDawn - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Great post Shruti :) Beyhadh is getting there right- the phase where you wish you could watch all episodes at one time instead of having to wait.. superexcited for this week! 😃

Maya- Maya looks distraught, shaken and hurt - all genuinely this time.. Jen's make up ( those bruises ), swollen eyes, her acting all have added to the portrayal of a women who has been through a lot in the past few days.. Is she faking all of that? Could be.. but I still maintain that Maya most definitely had planned to trap Ayaan but this time her own plan backfired at her.. she had not anticipated the assault, molestation.. She went through the medical examination too.. Don't know much of law but I am guessing that medical examination is part of the court proceedings in such assault cases, for both victim and accused. Not only rape victims but sexual assault or attempt to rape victims also have to go through it.. my guess.

Saanjh - Dusky will loose, Saanjh will win ..by hook or by crook- Hook ( Arjun- phas gaya in the web of questions)- jo kahunga sach kahunga and then he lied about everything that followed that too in the most unconvincing manner possible..Crook- Samay ! So lawyer Saanjh knows Samay's statement can weaken her case.. I don't know how that's gonna work given the fact that Samay had come with police who know that Samay is an eye witness and that must have been noted by the prosecution lawyer. So even if Saanjh asks him not to appear in court, he can be cross examined by the prosecution lawyer.

Saanjh will choose not to look at this case objectively and in isolation because if she does she will find herself weak. She has to connect this incident to Maya's past actions and behavior, to fuel her anger and may I say vengeance. Both these elements were totally on display the moment she put on that black lawyer's suit.. Giving personal remarks, commenting on the case that is yet to be presented in the court.. aisi aurat, wesi aurat.. wow! Its true isn't it- aurat hi aurat ki sabze badi dushman hoti hai..Right you are Shruti- it couldn't a mere co-incidence that its one woman against three in court, assuming the lady judge will be impartial.

Arjun- hmmm.. he seemed to be genuinely concerned about Maya .. but what's with all those statements- Maya can manage anything, Maya gets what she wants... Apparently managing office matters is same as managing to rescue oneself from assault.. * slow clap * Was that Arjun being his duffer self or subtly giving ammunition to Saanjh against Maya.. ?? Because of those statements Saanjh will strengthen her argument proving Maya to be this controlling manipulative psychopath.. Again those unconvincing, non-committal responses to his whereabouts during and before the incident.. Is that just duffer Shama or he is strengthening the case for Saanjh... Maya looked upset and disappointed..

Is Samay gonna let Saanjh ruin Maya? Can't say.. but his statement about sticking to the person he loves makes me wonder.. I want to see more of this guy..


Word!! Agree with everything you said.
Most of your posts are verbatim what I had in mind as well 😃

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

11/4/2017

What an episode guys. Saanjh says where she is truth is there. Really Saanjh if you were so sure you are standing by truth why you asked Samay not to come to court. Note the point girls, Saanjh asks Karmasakshi not to come to court. It shows her ego. It shows her need to win. Look at the way she prepares the case. yes Saanjh Mathur is a very intelligent lawyer. We all know why Maya gave those punishments to Arjun. He drank booze at night, he stole the movie tickets and he tried to enter her apartment climing 19 floors via window and ordered her. Saanjh Mathur doesnt want to put the reason for those punishments. She just wants the court to see what she wanted them to see. And she tells Maya is the manipulator. In the court Saanjh goes to Arjun Sharma. Didnt I tell Arjun is the weakest link of the defense. He doesnt have to to do anything. In the witness box he will fail Maya. His testimony will fail Maya. That much information Saanjh has about him. Saanjh feels she will finish the case in one hearing. Because she thinks Maya wont do medical.

Coming to Medical yes Maya is scared. Scared of touch. Look at her when Arjun tries to touch her. She thinks of Ayan ripping apart her dress, Ayan on top of her. If it was planned, then that wont play in her mind even when her husband touches her. It wont play if she is just acting the trauma. She is not. Arjun makes her take medical. With coaxing from Arjun she takes medical. Doctor says she is in trauma. What a doctor see, a lawyer cannot see. Because a lawyer want to see only that part where he or she can win the case.

Now look at one of the most interesting thing. Prem and Shubham are not there. It is the 3 ladies Saanjh, Vandana and Suman and it is a lady judge. yes it is the ladies who are going to condemn a woman. I loved the CVs for this. I loved them for showing yes a man rapes a woman, but she is killed and tortured by the mahan devis of the society thus allowing the rapists and molesters to escape.

Samay he tells if he has chosen to follow someone, he will do that. Saanjh thinks it is her. But in Samay's mind it is Maya. Karmasakshi wont intervene, just like Saanjh went between the couples, Karmasakshi cannot go. So Samay stays put. The dance continues. Now the pitch is raised, from the serene ballroom it has moved to the open courtroom.


The BoLD - exactly di.. even I thought the same things when saanj is preparing her case instead of focusing on present , focusing on what went wrong in present she is vengeful about all those times and she says she wants to punish maya for keeping away arjun from his family & coming btwn them. Like seriously ! She's filled with poison towards maya, can't expect anything from her now. She has fallen new low in my eyes.

Coming to maya, YES even I thought about this if she was faking it she wouldn't have remembered how disgustingly ayan touched her.

I feel Cvs are just misleading few things here bcz people are expecting like always maya playing but this is genuinely went wrong with her which is a suspense to many. She didn't expect him to touch in that way & molest her but it had lead to that unknowning to her.

And yeah like u said already arjun is the weakest link here.
But saanjh questions were cring worthy when she is comparing professionalism & rape. That's not done .
She needs some serious help. Bcoz nobody says to a tape victim "why didn't u handle your rape situation when u r getting raped ".
That was nonsense question.

About karmasakshi I agree on it and liked your analysis.
Edited by Nithunavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@riddi in this montage actually Arjun holds Maya, though it looks a romantic pose for me it felt he will hold her from falling.

If you see first montage you can see Arjun holding Maya, both are kind of standing and Arjun looks her from behind and Saanjh stands at a distance sadly looking at them.

Then again marriage montage where Maya stands in bridal attire and Arjun is behind her, they are a bit apart,

Now the current montage is they Maya on the verge of falling and Arjun bends a bit to stop her from falling. So it is like both needed to support each other.

Thank you for the explanation '''
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Shruti, I have always seen u comparing scenes n characters with MB. N I love MB my favourite episode is the unfortunate hall of disrobe. Yes, it's disgusting , such powerful husband's not one but 5 n still helpless. I love the questions asked by Panchali n her pride.
Let MB where her husband's can't save her n infact they f the reason for her state, same way Arjun in a way is the reason for Ayans disgusting behaviour. Well I know Arjun never wanted ayan to act so.. but since Arjun said all he do called sad story instigated Ayan.
In MB Arjuna was roped by his brother's promise n the Truth. N Shakuni n Duryodhan knowing Pandavas don't lie ask questions in such a manner that Panchali doesn't have way out.
Dane way, call saanjh as Shakuni or Duryodhana she asks Arjun such questions which leaves Maya no way out but to make it difficult. Arjun here says truth n saanjh is Shakuni.
So Arjun will not help Maya here. Like Panchali who fights for her rights n respect, Maya has to fight for herself n am sure she will do. But like Panchali in the end needs Madhav help , Maya might need Samay.
Samay might not personally come to court but will somehow help Maya to win
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I feel Samay wants Maya to loose the case.
Once Maya looses the case then she will loose Arjun too since Arjun will start believing Ayaan.

So once Arjun will be out of Maya's life then only Samay can make an entry in Maya's life na.

And today the mahaan devi Saanjh just proved what a mahaan devi she is. She said "Jis taraf main rahungi uss taraf Saach hoga" lol really? Isn't it the other way round like "Jiss taraf saach hai uss taraf main rahungi"? What does she really think of herself? Itna arrogance? Wooo Saanjh! This shitty dialogue just proved that she is desperate to defeat Maya. She isn't interested in the truth anymore.

And she doesn't even have self confidence to fight the case honestly by presenting the truth. Her stopping Samay the only eye witness just proved it.


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Today Saanjh hit a new low with her anger and dialogues...the OTT acting didn't help either.
4 women in d court is so true, itz always a women who brings down other women. That is the weakest thing in women. I hope dy end d court drama soon, not liking it a bit. No Samay, no Maya.

On one side dy show FB's dt Maya sees and on the other side dy show Maya's eyes and d BG music as if itz her plan. Seems like dis time also CV's r not gonna show d whole truth. Losing patience.
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@poppins atleast for 2-3 weeks we will have to tolerate the court drama that I am sure. See Saanjh thinks she can finish the case in one day as she is confident Maya wont do medical. But medical report will come, then Saanjh will have to up her ante to prove that wrong. That's what I can glean from yesterday episode.
@Peralta with each passing episode Saanjh is hitting new low and her personal vendeta comes out than the need for justice

@Delz Saanjh doesnt know the coat Samay has given to Maya. I am waiting how that coat will play out

@jane if she had it in her, she should have dared Samay to give his statement and then with evidence proved it wrong. Stopping someone from giving evidence shows what are your values. This is not Prem Mathur and Suman Mathur had taught her. More than Maya's mask, I am interested to see the extend Saanjh Mathur is going to win the case

@Misty Dusky is Arjun's friend, she would have been really emphatheic to Arjun, but Saanjh is Maya's enemy who wants to defeat Maya at any cost doesnt matter even her friend burns in it. Did she question Arjun as Dusky. All the information Arjun had trusted Dusky with she spilled the same in the court in the name of vendatta, in public view. Coming to Maya she always had the plan of trapping Ayan with physical assault but FB shows she didnt expect molestation. Medical test will happen. To see any marks on the body, to collect forensic evidence. Hair, nail tips etc etc.. In case of Maya the neck bite, it will be cross checked with Ayan's teeth. And doctor tells it is important it has to be done within 24 hrs. Samay we will wait and watch. He said he wont come to court. He knows he is not needed. Case will go on 😆😆

@sweetshruti Misty writes beautifully she should make seperate posts

@Nithu dont expect any professionalism, Saanjh will show the mirror of how a rape victim is harassed in the court

@joja Saanjh is a character. I need to see the extend she will go to win. Samay wont come till the last shred of clothing is there on Maya. When Saanjh is about to pull that his cloak will come to protect her. That scene was significant. Because when Maya told that in front of police he didnt need that cloak, she still had decent clothing, still the cloak comes evident that for that accusation she is going to be disrobed

@sumz Saanjh knows everything. She has a very high moral ground.

@Nietzy this track will lay the foundation of the final track. Do watch it, it is interesting.


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