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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#651

09/08/17

No one will see your pain, tears and sufferings

It's easy to threw such words in someone, but how about getting those words back?

She doesn't care. Tears, requests, pleas. She doesn't care. Or maybe not. What's the difference now? Has it any matter?

Ask for blessings from Jhanvi. It was a powerful moment. And Jhanvi is unconscious. It was a very interesting moment. Let's see what this will lead to next. Monster will appear... And everyone rushes to Jhanvi. Duffer will stay at night in the hospital. And she wants to go home. This is your mother. Don't use emotional blackmail. Here doctors, nurses, this is the best hospital. She wants to go home. And for too recalcitrant there is a good means of persuasion - the insanity of Duffer

Jhanvi was shocked. At that moment I wanted to laugh, honestly

Suman and Shubh beg to release Dusky. Is that all you can do for your Dusky? Yes, exactly, that's all they could do to explain Dusky limits that she must not cross when it was needed to be done - nothing

I really try to understand your pain, Aunt. To understand someone else's pain, one must have compassion and sympathy. To understand someone else's pain, you need to be a human. Only humanity is needed. But in this normal sane good world there is nothing of this

Ayan again comes out of prison. Again thanks to Maya. Well, the result is predictable. Ayan attacks Maya. For the umpteenth time, I want to congratulate VM with the beautiful, just as example for others, upbringing of her sons. Yes, these two know how to raise their hand to girl, and this is their most important virtue, if such an abomination can be regarded as dignity. Actually the endless applause to VM and hers upbringing

And the punishment for this will get Dusky

Mistakes made one, and punishment get anither

Extremely interesting moment, what actually happens with Dusky. The focus shifts, and all that is visible is the shadows. Shadows, the darkness is very deceptive. Illusory...

Burnt...

This whole world knows strong, confident Maya Mehrotra. The owner of "Fashion and City" They scared her. But the truth is that ...

He didn't hear her that night... He heard nothing...

And here it is... The embodiment of darkness... All in black... She doesn't care...

If you are on bad's side, then... Don't use emotional blackmail... All in black... What do you see in this black... Darkness... Evil... Indifference ... Or... In this black is so much... So much that no one has ever seen... So much that no one has ever heard...

People who was lost in the woods, never get anything, except for wounds from thorns on the roads...

And it's true... There was no light in her life... Light will come when she will be in Ganesha's hands... Too late...

Yes, she's in black... Yes, she's bad&mad... Yes, she doesn't care...

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#652

Laska Maya was bindaas yesterday. She didnt care for anything. I loved when she said dont do this saas bahu wali thing 😆😆. And if you raise hand at me, well Dusky get equally beaten up. I loved the scene where she took Jhanvi's blessings telling the blessing herself, especially the lines " Mujhe pati ka sukh mile" 😆😆. it was this so called pati ka sukh Jhanvi let the Maya the girl in torture chamber.

Now Maya put another girl in torture chamber for Pati ka sukh. Her eyes were clear yesterday. She herself was giving clues to them on how to defeat her. But then they dont see it. Only crying

By the way I didnt feel anything sorry for Saanjh. Dinner date is really going smooth.

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#653

@shruthiravi, I liked Maya's reaction to Jhani fainting. Oh, well, another drama! How long will you all play your dramas. Drama, drama, drama. You wanted bad&mad Maya. She is in front of you. And to you not be mistaken, she is in black. Don't look for light in the dark. There is nothing there

She said many times how she can be defeated. She said many times how stop madness. She said it all. Everything. But no one heard her. Never

Dusky, I'm not sure that Dusky gets all the dishes in full😆 Dusky herself wanted to be in this place. She herself was looking for so long and creating bad&mad Maya. All can enjoy their victory. They can even organize a salute and fireworks

But they are whining again. Everyone is whining. It's boring and really tiresome...

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#654

Originally posted by: Laska
@anshvi, no one asked to forget Raksha. There was no need to ask. Actions speak for themselves. Respect my mother. If she isn't your mother, then I'm not your brother either
Ayan wanted respect for VM. VM wanted a place in the heart
VM stays in Duffer's house after death of his mother, rumors spread among the people. This is the first hit to Raksha's memory. Less than six months later, unable to withstand even the accepted mourning, Duffer's father marries VM - the second hit to Raksha's memory
This is a manifestation of disrespect to Raksha
Duffer grew up with this disrespect for his mother. With disrespect, which showed his father and VM too

Duffer eventually accept VM. Well, firstly, he accepted VM thanks to Maya. VM could not even thank Maya for this, never
And the way he accepted, and why he accepted. Most of all talks about Duffer's nature. Duffer loves freebies. Duffer is very fond of freebies. At the moment when Duffer accepted VM and how he accepted VM, he broke promise that he gave to his mother, Raksha. He destroyed all
Raksha's memory. Raksha ceased to exist at this moment. He simply betrayed his mother. He betrayed his mother's memory

VM never went to fix any relationship. VM rushes in Maya's house. With a brazen arrogant face. Like Maya is nobody and nothing. Ayan stood looking at all this and smiling
Broken relationships don't fix like that. So someone come again to insult, again humiliate

Ayan supported Duffer in the murder of Maya, yes, he said that Duffer did nothing. Of course, Ayan will say so, because to tear Maya's dress and threaten with rape is nothing. Means to both beat and kill is nothing. The fact that this unfortunate person has survived because Ganesha, Ma Lakshmi or Rajiv/Samay continued to carry out their sadistic experiment doesn't mean that Duffer did nothing at all
Maya, too, with incredible tenacity, proved to the whole world and herself that Duffer doesn't raise his hand to her. The fact from this doesn't change. Raises. Constantly

Well, as for what Duffer realized and regrets - today he regrets one thing. Yesterday he regretted another. Tomorrow he will regret again. I'll just hope that the next time he regrets he will not have any way back, never. Even if it means death for this person

Disagree with your post

As I said your perspective is totally different

You think Ayaan and Vandana disrespected Raksha but I don't think so..Vandana raised Arjun as his own and loved him unconditionally..she didn't want to take her place but create her own..Ayaan supported her in this

To take care of someone's son like her own is not disrespecting that son's mother's memory but it is the best thing a mom will want..if someone loved her son as her own

Ayaan always supported his brother in tough times and has been a great brother so far

U think he tried to rape Maya and I think he didn't..Maya herself said that she trapped him in the case...Ayaan was involved in a tussle and sexual assault was the last thing on her mind...i don't need to delve into this further coz it has already been discussed

Maya left Ganesha who was her one true and embraced darkness

Anyway as I said your perspective and mine are poles apart thus it is better if we commence the discussion on a noble note.

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#655

@anshvi, taking care of someone's son as her own doesn't mean disrespect for the mother. To marry the father of a small child, not withstand mourning after the death of his mother, is a disrespect to his mother

What's important isn't what is written on the poster, but what and how it happened is important, not only the sounded point, but also the way to it. As a result of how VM entered Duffer's life, he lost not only his mother, but also his father. He was left all alone. In his heart settled hatred and with this hatred he lived more than 15 years

If this is a positive way and result for a small 6 years old boy, I can never agree with this

To deprive a child who is already deprived of his mother, also of his father, is the worst thing that can be done. Burn even more in the life of a small child than what was burned before, this is the worst thing that can be done

And I'll never be able to believe that an adult woman, who claims to have supposedly done everything for the child, could not find an approach, could not find a way, a common language with a small lonely boy. So she just not looking for

As for Ayan and this case. What was in his drunken head is still unknown. Elementary folding actions and words in this case - it's completely not to do anything. Moreover, if in your opinion it is normally sane and good to manhandling brother's wife and threaten her with rape, then here again I will never be able to agree

And even more this person I will never be able to call great. It's far from a great thing to raise hand against a girl, all the more brother's wife, whoever she is

So, let's agree to disagree😃

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#656

10/08/17

How Maya wins. Find weakness, and use it. Rajiv's main weakness is to be worse than Duffer. To be worse than this dog. Why Maya chose this dog. And Maya uses it to get time. If there is time, then you can look for opportunities, you can see the glass, you can see the possibility even in the air

Interestingly, Rajiv knows Maya. Very well knows. He knows very well that she can survive. He noticed how she pulled out to the vase

A hit to the shoulder. Again an interesting point. And Rajiv falls. Maya strikes a few more hits in the back. Glass. With bare hands. And after that, there isn't a single scratch on Maya's hands. Come on, how is this even possible?

Maya pulls Rajiv, and covers him with boxes. Then you can call Duffer. To Duffer and Dusky Maya needs alive. And Dusky sends Duffer to look for Maya. Dusky stays alone. Maya gets the opportunity to kidnap Dusky

And again. From where does Maya get chloroform? When did Maya calls these orderlies? By the way, they look like hospital orderlies, who were hired by Rajiv. And if Maya hired these orderlies, why could not those orderlies be able to free Maya, cut down/kill Rajeev and kidnap Dusky? Why such difficulties? And medallion? From what air did this medallion appear?

And "I killed Samay. I can't watch how my love dies" - and more than three years watched how she dies. More than three years, from day to day. Moreover, he killed her by his own hands. From day to day. Burned and watched. Between the life of his love and madness he chose madness. Because otherwise there will be less love. What lie! What hypocrite! Burn in hell, Duffer, right to ashes!

"You're not human" And you were human, Duffer, when with super-extra-special friend in restaurants late at night drinking, to incomprehensible confessions of incomprehensible love? You were human, when stood up from mandap to explains to your super-extra-special friend in what kind of incomprehensible love? You, Duffer, were human when your wife's hands burned, but you didn't even look at her? You were human, when her heart was smashed millions, billions of times with a bang to smithereens and gutted? When she burned alive in all this, you were human? When you, Duffer, burned her out of the day to day all these years, you were human? You were a husband, a friend, even just human who not doesn't care?

That lonely tear, which shed that night, did you see her? Heard her? Then her trust broke. And it was broken again and again millions, billions of times

You could not leave Dusky. Dusky is your madness. All for you, sweetheart, Dusky near to you. Don't leave her. And Dusky doesn't need to run to you, forgetting everyone and everything and anything along the way. Now she is always with you. Now Dusky is a very important part of your marriage and relationship. As you wanted. Exactly between you and Maya, Duffer. Your madness

"You have lost the right to ask questions... And time too... Very soon I will be very serious... And I will get my right..."

"I need only one night... I don't need your love... I need you... Your breath... Your heartbeat... Your life..."

"My love is enough for two" - yes, so she thought. As she said to Malkani "someday he will love me, not my money"... Alas, alas, he not able to love anyone

If you, Duffer, cared about her... If she was important to you, all this wouldn't happened... If you, Duffer, were at least a little bit worried about her, all this wouldn't happened... But as it turned out, the canvas should be Dusky, so he could see Maya...

And I like this mirror image. Everyone is afraid, everyone is worried, everyone is going mad, because Dusky can leave them

But all them without the slightest twinge of conscience, without any hesitation, constantly beat in this Maya's fear "Duffer will leave you"

And you, Duffer, beat to this one single weakness, the one single most vulnerable point most of all... And you gave all who can and can't, to all those who wish and who don't want too to enjoy and revel in this strengh and power over Maya Mehrotra...

At dawn you come to her... At dawn you hug her... At dawn you said... "Your close ones gave you nothing but pain and suffering"...

And you, Duffer, didn't give Maya anything except pain, suffering, same black room and the endless fire in which you burned her to ashes...

Edited by Laska - 8 years ago

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#657

Yes Laska everyone is afraid of losing Dusky, but never thought once filling in mind fears in Maya's mind of losing Arjun. Arjun will leave you, you will be alone.

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#658

@shruthiravi, they did it all the time. Constantly used this fear. They increased this fear. And the main who did this and did constantly - Duffer

They all used this weakness. Maya said you need to find weakness and use it, but the difference is that their weakness is ego and dirt, and her weakness is heart and love

And now they will using this weakness again

That scene in the hospital after Maya jumped from the bridge. She had to die there. There, her way ended once and for all

Her destiny was be killed because of Jhanvi

But then Duffer asked Ganesha not to take away Maya, and forced Dusky to pray

Dusky said that let Ganesha take everything from her and save Maya's life, she does it by force, reluctantly, because Duffer forced her. Did Dusky have nothing? Nothing but Duffer is all of her? Is that all?

But even then Duffer didn't belong to Dusky. He was not her's. He was Maya's. Duffer already chose Maya

After that, Maya dies. She had to die there. It was her death. Illusion would have died happy, having at least an illusion of love. A little bit light. A little bit happiness. A little bit of love

But then Dusky says that Ganesha has prepared something good for her, let him take it and give it to Maya

VM gives the blessing to Dusky. Is that all that matters to Dusky? The only good thing that could be, except Duffer? Blessing to get Duffer's love?

And at this moment Maya starts to breathe again

She was returned from death, so that she would go the same way?

Get what was her? But now only after death?

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#659

@Laska the biggest question is what belonged to Dusky and what did Ganesha took away. The illusion is that duffer belonged to Dusky and Dusky gave that blessing to Maya so she lived. See it was God who gave whatever written for Dusky to Maya from the point she prayed.

Acoording to Dusky's horoscope till that point Dusky got whatever she wanted, now to get what she wants she has to fight a battle. So actually Dusky gave that battle to Maya, though I first thought it was Arjun, in retrospect what Dusky gave Maya was the battle which actually Dusky should have fought.

Now VM gave the blessing let Dusky get all the love of Arjun. To be frank that blessing now has to go to Maya. Because from the time Dusky prayed whatever for Dusky should goes to Maya. That indication Ganesha gave. VM told let Dusky get love. So till that point somewhere Arjun loved Maya and not Dusky. But this was not accepted. Because Dusky should get love, but based on prayer it should go to Maya.

The fun is duffer didnt belong to Dusky. Dusky escaped the battle when she exchanged it for Maya's life.

Maya had to fight for what belonged to her, because some people thought it didnt belong to her.

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#660

@shruthiravi, yes, that's what I'm talking about. Dusky gave her all-all-everything, but it was all the only battle in which she had to fight

And Dusky gave this battle to Maya in exchange for Maya's life - only it seems to me that this is some dishonest, unfair deal? That's why I was totally against with so-called Dusky's prayer. Dusky had everything, but everything that Dusky had and that Duska had never appreciated was her family - Ganesha could not give it Maya

Therefore, Ganesha gave Dusky's battle to Maya. The battle in which Maya should not have fought. It's not her battle

And right after that, Duffer begins to forget about Maya. He runs to stop Dusky. He stands up from mandap. Although before this all was visa versa

But what about Duffer and his requests, conversations? That he finally agrees with what Ganesha gave him. He said that apart from Maya, nobody needs him

Another point Duffer said that will not allow this child to come in this world. And this, must say, the only promise he kept. But there was another moment, Duffer said that Maya's child would be uncompleted, and there he meant, it will be Maya's child and that child would not have a father

Yes, VM's blessing should now come to Maya

And in the same place Duffer said "take my life, but cure Maya"

I even have an idea of how this will happen

"His love will make out of him fool"

"When Maya leaves Duffer, Duffer will stay lifeless"

"With whom you will meet bad times, this way Maya will show you"

And here is the chance that Maya asked to fix everything - to show her love without lies and manipulation. This is the sacred Maya's truth. But not the one that is profitable and convenient for everyone, and which Maya so afraid. But real Maya's truth

"My daughter should not pay for my mistakes"

"Mistakes are done one, and punishment get another"

There stays somewhere lost chance which asked Samay/Rajiv - let Maya forget him once, and I will not give a single chance that Maya remembered about him. And other Samay's dialogs

Maya had to fight not only because of this prayer, but also because of Duffer. What about him?