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Posted: 8 years ago
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Okay, this is going to be another long post, so bear with me again please. 😊
Hi again! I hope you all are doing well. I've been reading some posts about Saanjh and Maya comparisons and I'd like to point out some things that just seem, well, weird to me.

First off, I'd like to say that most people I know irl (my friends aren't into Hindi serials so it's usually me discussing these with my Mum's friends 😆 Long story, but I'm really close to them so yeah) all like Maya over Saanjh (If we're comparing). Now these people are 40-41 year olds (Mum and I have a very low age difference sooo yeah lmao) who are in no way Jennifer fans, I doubt if they've even seen any of her earlier works let alone be a fan - And they simply love Maya. So, the whole idea of "Jennifer fans are Maya fans" is pointless. People love Maya because she simply is t h e Maya Mehrotra.
As for her characteristics - I've said it before, but I'll say it again; it's because Maya knows no other way. She has taken control of her life after whatever incident happened years ago, and has, since then, been this harsh and controlling woman who has gotten everything she has being this way. She is emotionally scarred and believes she is incapable of loving - And when Arjun actually loved her back, she's clinging on to it however she can - and that however being this way that she has always been. You see where I'm going at?
As for her being a "murderer," there's a phrase called "innocent until proven guilty," so yes. If she's proven to be a murderer, that's when we start seeing her as one. For now, she is just mentally disturbed, and she was abused as a child, no matter what the cause - so all that has has an effect on however she is today. She is the easy suspect, but I'd expect a show like Beyhadh to build up more suspense than just reveal her as the murderer. And about the tattoo part - A little incident I'd like to mention - My best friend got a tattoo machine as a present and without absolutely any prior experience or knowledge, she tattooed a rose on her leg and it's still there - without any problems or infections or life threatening diseases lol. Arjun never refused to get the tattoo and he surely was enjoying the bittersweet pain of getting his love's name tattooed on his chest, which is what led to that sensuous scene.
And most importantly - Whatever Maya does, as a character, not as a human being or whatever - It's because she is supposed to be this way. It's what the show is all about. If anyone's expecting Maya to act all normal and mahaan then what's the point of the whole show... How do you expect to enjoy a show literally called "Beyhadh" if you constantly keep calling out the main lead's "Beyhadh-ness"?!

Now, coming to Saanjh. I said this before too - I used to like her at the beginning not because she was the sweet and kind girl-next-door, but because she seemed sensible. Sensibility, something that Arjun clearly lacked in the beginning. But slowly they took that away step-by-step, and Saanjh just became someone Arjun could walk all over and be as rude to as he wants to, and still expect her to be standing right there the next morning. I'll add a little story here too - I once really reaaalllyyy liked a best friend of mine. He used to tell me all about his day and I'd stay up until 5-6 AM sometimes, Skyping him (He moved to another country). We weren't best friends for years or since childhood or something, I just knew him from my school days and he was a senior too - and after we both left that school, we somehow became friends on Facebook and so on. One day, he told me he liked this model (an actual model from our country, one of the top ones too) and the way he kept going on about her... I realised he'd never seen me how he sees her, no matter how friendly he was to me or how much he cared for me. So I actually sat there and helped him be with her, even though I had heard that the girl usually makes her boyfriends do a lot of stuff for her; Not even making this up man, she was an actual pain in the a** but since he liked her so much, I sat quietly and let him be because if he had to learn a lesson, he'd have to learn it on its own as he was just like Arjun, stubborn and unaware of his surroundings. They got together and it killed me so much to watch his relationship status change, but it was what he wanted and I had to comply because or else I'd lose the friendship I had. They broke up, and I was the one he called and cried to and he even ended up telling me that he'd marry me someday if he never found anyone else lol 😆 But I knew that he still always saw me as a friend and the love he had for her, he'd never feel it for me because I was always just that girl he could vent to. Sorry about the long story 😆 He found someone else btw 😆
But basically, I'm not saying Saanjh has to be like me, but the least she can do is be supportive? And let Arjun go? Because even after all this, she is still doing all that dancing in her bedroom and acting all weird, for her own (and her family's, who do SO much for her) betterment she has to let go. It won't be easy but the least she can do is try? Putting on toothpaste(?!) as haldi when Arjun is getting married to someone else is not normal behaviour, sorry - And Saanjh is supposed to be normal, no? Maya isn't normal and we know that, but Saanjh is supposed to be, from the looks of it? Arjun has treated her like crap and expected her to be back there because she always has - I know their friendship is ages old but there's a limit to all this; especially since their arguments didn't happen before. The things he spits out sometimes, I know I'd never talk to him if he said any of that to me lol. She can easily find someone better - Jeetu was such a great guy but she completely overlooked his feelings and went on and on about Arjun. She has to think about the whole situation and not just about Arjun and her love for him, and not be Ayaan from ADHM because that clearly didn't end well.

And Vandana, oh God. I loved her so much, her love for Arjun was so nice and pure but now it's just getting annoying. Superstitions are well believed all over the world but secretly hoping for a wedding to be broken off on the day of it and even going to Saanjh and asking her to end it isn't nice, is it? I know she's afraid and all but come on, Maya being controlling is no new thing but Arjun is mad for her right now, if she does succeed in calling off the wedding (which she won't apparently, but still saying), what makes her think Arjun will so easily accept it? Being a protective mother is okay, but reacting this harshly due to some predictions really seems irrational for someone like Vandana.

These are just my views and people don't necessarily have to agree with them, but I've been reading things and just felt the need to say it out loud. That's all for now, sorry again for the long post! Hope y'all have a good day xx

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ishakumar thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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wowww
superb post suha!!!

loved every aspect of it! and that u were were unbiased with it because you were not a fan of any of the actors before. and that really makes a difference!
coming from a neutral person's mouth, i guess we maya supporters, are in the right direction, whether or whether not we were jenny fans from before.

maya has and will always be the one character that touches everyone's heart whether they like it or not. Her character is someone that can slither into your heart, and you wouldn't even realize it!
she is someone who certainly deserves love after all the problems she has faced in life. and now that she is getting it, any person like her, would want to protect that love more than their life!

as for saanjh, she clearly needs to move on
and vandana need to realize that she cant control fate
the pundit had said that maya and arjun were made for each other, then i dont know what this woman is trying to do by separating them!
the pundit even said that the wedding will happen at any cost, and no one can stop it, then why does she have to even try
LMFAOOO

If vandana goes by what the pundit said then
Pros:
1. He said it's the best Jodi he has ever seen
2. Their lives will be filled with happiness
3. Maya will love Arjun more than her life
4. 36 of their "guns" matched
5. If love can bring you to the ground it can also soar you high in the sky
Cons:
1. Maya's obsessive love can lead to Arjun getting pain in the process...

So clearly their are more pros than cons yet she is stuck on the fact that this wedding shouldn't happen... don't get the logic that she is using! Making me laugh TBH
😆



Edited by ishakumar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You earned a like because you have put forth yourself beautifully. I happen to just agree on the Maya bits and think differently when it comes to Saanjh and Vandana. However, what I liked the best is even though you were critical about them, the way you put your points across would classify as constructive criticism. 👍🏼 Oh and I'm sorry that you had to go through some difficult phases in your life.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i wanted to write about your personal experience seperately
so first of all thanks for sharing a piece of your past with us!
so in this case, Im happy that your realized that you had no future with this guy!
it could've been possible that even if you guys got together, he still could've went on a different track. so its always better not to risk you future with a man that is not completely committed to you... it can end up bringing more pain to you.
sometimes some relationships are better left at friendship, than to forcefully drag them into a "romantic" zone... cuz if its one sided it can end up giving you unbearable pain when the person doesnt reciprocate that same love back to you.

same thing with saanjh
she should be happy that she didnt marry a man, that wasnt in love with her...
isnt it better to be single than to be with a person that doesnt love you?

Edited by ishakumar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishakumar

wowww

superb post suha!!!

loved every aspect of it! and that u were were unbiased with it because you were not a fan of any of the actors before. and that really makes a difference!
coming from a neutral person's mouth, i guess we maya supporters, are in the right direction, whether or whether not we were jenny fans from before.

maya has and will always be the one character that touches everyone's heart whether they like it or not. Her character is someone that can slither into your heart, and you wouldn't even realize it!
she is someone who certainly deserves love after all the problems she has faced in life. and now that she is getting it, any person like her, would want to protect that love more than their life!

as for saanjh, she clearly needs to move on
and vandana need to realize that she cant control fate
the pundit had said that maya and arjun were made for each other, then i dont know what this woman is trying to do by separating them!
the pundit even said that the wedding will happen at any cost, and no one can stop it, then why does she have to even try
LMFAOOO

If vandana goes by what the pundit said then
Pros:
1. He said it's the best Jodi he has ever seen
2. Their lives will be filled with happiness
3. Maya will love Arjun more than her life
4. 36 of their "guns" matched
5. If love can bring you to the ground it can also soar you high in the sky
Cons:
1. Maya's obsessive love can lead to Arjun getting pain in the process...

So clearly their are more pros than cons yet she is stuck on the fact that this wedding shouldn't happen... don't get the logic that she is using! Making me laugh TBH
😆





Hehehe thankyou, thankyou 😃
I try to make sure my arguments are both sided because or else people will come along and tag me as Jennifer-then-Maya fan 😆 I do love Jennifer though but I also love Aneri as an actor so yes 😊

And that's true! Something about Maya is so... fascinating! She ends up pulling most people towards her, regardless of how dangerous she seems. It's what makes her Maya Mehrotra! She is this way because she has suffered in life, no one is born with depression or other mental problems, no? These are something that adopt as they grow up. This entire concept of being loved ~back~ is new to her because even the only other person she loves is her Mother, and even her Mother's love for her fell weak in front of Ashwin so many times. Maya is now desperate to make sure Arjun's love is hers and hers only, which, along with her controlling behaviour, makes a very precarious combination. That's what brings all the thrills no 😉

And lmfaooo what else does Vandana want then man... I missed the past few episodes as I wasn't home but I kept up with updates on through the forum and social media but I didn't know the pandit said all that along with the caution because literally all Vandana and people who don't like Maya have screamed into the world is that Maya will hurt Arjun 😛 Haaayeee yaar, aur kya chahiye Vandana Aunty ko to stop seeing Maya as a chudail 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well, I am hardcore Jen fan but I am not a Maya fan. At all. So yeah, we have an interesting demography of Maya lovers here. Anyway, let's see how the story moves on from now.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .annihilation.

You earned a like because you have put forth yourself beautifully. I happen to just agree on the Maya bits and think differently when it comes to Saanjh and Vandana. However, what I liked the best is even though you were critical about them, the way you put your points across would classify as constructive criticism. 👍🏼 Oh and I'm sorry that you had to go through some difficult phases in your life.



Thaaank you! 😃
See, whatever I wrote down is my point and it's not because I hate Saanjh or think Saanjh fans hate Maya or something - which, vice versa, happens sometimes (I've seen your posts so defo not with you but I hope you get me!) I just think that if those characters were intended to be this way then fine, but from the descriptions and starting episodes they seemed a lot different than now so few things sometimes seem out of character to me, that's all. 😊
And thank you again, it did feel terrible but sadly, I've seen much, much worse days since that 😛 But it's how life goes on, so you just gotta move on with it 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaputDraconis

Well, I am hardcore Jen fan but I am not a Maya fan. At all. So yeah, we have an interesting demography of Maya lovers here. Anyway, let's see how the story moves on from now.



You are a unique one then 😛 But most people tend to assume Maya is so loved because Jennifer has always been, basically tarred with the same brush that is!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishakumar

i wanted to write about your personal experience seperately

so first of all thanks for sharing a piece of your past with us!
so in this case, Im happy that your realized that you had no future with this guy!
it could've been possible that even if you guys got together, he still could've went on a different track. so its always better not to risk you future with a man that is not completely committed to you... it can end up bringing more pain to you.
sometimes some relationships are better left at friendship, than to forcefully drag them into a "romantic" zone... cuz if its one sided it can end up giving you unbearable pain when the person doesnt reciprocate that same love back to you.

same thing with saanjh
she should be happy that she didnt marry a man, that wasnt in love with her...
isnt it better to be single than to be with a person that doesnt love you?



Thank you for reading it through! 😃
I guess so, he did have a reputation for being a flirt 😛 But even though he started off with flirting with me, soon we turned the best of friends and he forgot he ever saw me as that 😆 But it's good, he's really happy with who he has now after that bad experience with the model and I'm just happy that he's happy now, though he still doesn't know I ever liked him 😛 But it's all good, at the end of the day we're both somehow content with our lives and I've left my feelings far behind. But good God, did that hurt! Whenever he spoke about her, he'd go on nonstop because she was obviously very beautiful and I was just a chubby little girl who spent most of her time listening to Taylor Swift music 😆 But I was the only one he could talk about her to freely so I let it be, I was just happy we were still friends and he was still talking to me when he could've been all up with his beautiful girlfriend then 😳

And yes, it definitely is! It's part of why I've been single for a long time... I liked someone who didn't like me back, then got liked by someone who only liked me because he had recently broken up with his girlfriend. I'd be hurt either way so it defo was better being single 😃

But thank you again xx
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suhamufc



You are a unique one then 😛 But most people tend to assume Maya is so loved because Jennifer has always been, basically tarred with the same brush that is!


I am not. The poster above "Annihilation" is a Jen fan too.

There are many others like me who're fans of the actor but don't condone the character Maya's behavior. Just because you've had a torturous childhood doesn't give you the right to manipulate your way to acquire what you want.

I feel Saanjh is a very easy character to read, she's girl-next door kinda person, and I feel one of the major reasons why she gets the irrational hatred is because people who've signed up for this show want to see something out of the box and Saanjh doesn't fit that template.

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