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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -DarkSlayer-

Before I begin, I just want to say that in no way is this meant to be a bashing post but rather something that I've noticed across the course of the episodes. Anyone who bashes will immediately get reported.


Now, moving on.

Ever since the show began, we've seen Saanjh's unrequited love for Arjun. She's grown up as his best friend and along the way she fell in love with him. Various times she's tried to tell him of her feelings but has failed and now that Arjun has found his own love, Saanjh is going through a heartbreak.

With the way the writers have shown us Saanjh's character, I feel that she's brought this heartbreak on herself. Now I can already sense you're going "What the hell are you talking about?" but hear me out. The reason why I feel this way is because Saanjh's decisions have been all based on assumptions.

The first assumption is that Arjun reciprocates her feelings. This is mostly due to both Arjun's family and her own mother and brother egging her on and making her assume that Arjun loves her too. The next assumption comes when Arjun runs off to help Maya when Jhanvi collapses. She assumes that Arjun is running away and disrespecting her family. Although she understands afterwards, her anger is based all on an assumption.

More assumptions are made when Arjun patches up with his mother and again, Vandana and Ayaan tell her it's because of her only. Following which she once again gets heartbroken at seeing Maya taking Vandana's blessings and being the root cause behind Arjun rushing back to his mother.

^^ To all of those, I think more than anything or any body else, everyone including Saanjh assumed whatever they did was because of Arjun. These two families are practically one, closely knit and have been together since forever. Time and again, Arjun has gone on record to explicitly state and express vehemently that Saanjh is the most important person in his life and he in any capacity or universe cannot do without her. Under such circumstances and impressions, it's quite natural for the families or Saanjh for that matter to assume that he'd be cool with their alliance. The heart breaks and the dejection is caused mainly by their hopes being shattered one after the other than just being based on Maya alone. Had it been any other girl, I do think they would have reacted the same way. They do so even more strongly now because their intuitions (Vandana's particularly) are against Maya.

The one assumption that had me going "Really writers? Really?" was recently when Saanjh makes her trip to Mauritius. She comes to the hotel and follows the clues Arjun "left for her". She assumes the notes are for her and that he is going to propose to her. Now hold up here. Arjun has no clue she's in Mauritius or that she is going to come there then why would he put together this surprise for her?

It was indeed silly. I think she probably assumed that those clues were left out for her after their abrupt phone call. Saanjh must have assumed that Arjun knows now that Saanjh too is in Mauritius and thus, the clues were laid out for her to reach him.

There are so many assumptions that are made on her part that does not make me feel bad for her one bit but rather she brought it on herself. This is where I'm calling out the writers again because they're just making this character crumble. The only thing that made me feel slightly bad was the actress. Her acting prowess genuinely touched my heart and her sorrow she portrayed made me sympathize with her. But then once again, that was soon wiped away when the mandir scene happened.

Yes, she found Maya's earring. No, that doesn't mean that Maya is a murderer. Could she be? Sure (if this is the case then the writers are losing their wit). Is she? We don't know. Neither does Saanjh. All these assumptions that are being made from her aggravates me because they have this character who is being portrayed by such a talented actress and all they're doing is making her less and less bearable with the way they're writing her.

From where I see it, I don't think Saanjh has assumed in her head that Maya's behind the priest's death. Atleast, not yet. She might connect the dots later though. I think she purely meant to give Maya a warning which was not related to his death at all. (You can read about it here if you'd like to in my post)

I sincerely hope the writers can pick up their game with Saanjh. She can still redeem herself. No that doesn't mean she needs to turn negative (I'm looking at you, writers). Show us Saanjh. Not bebas and laachaar Saanjh, who is always crying or looks upset. Come on, get your characters developed well. Maya's not the only character on that show.

I do think her road to go from 'just dusky' to 'Saanjh' has begun.

That being said, once again, I'd like to remind everyone to keep things civil and please for the love of God don't pick fights with each other or me just because you think this is a Anti-Saanjh post (it's not).

I personally didn't see your post as anti-Saanjh. You have actually put across your points quite sensibly. 😳 And I love that little note/warning you gave out.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think the main problem with her is that she lives in a fantasy world of her own which only she inhabits. the girl seriously needs a reality check. The frst time I started having a problem with her was when she just decided that Maya was "bad" and she is the only person that can be " good" for Arjun. Her self-entitlement of "Mera Duffer, mera Arjun" was painful to watch, especially since Arjun never gave her any indication that he had any romantic feelings for her. Dude, he was helping in fixing her marriage with someone else.Do you need any bigger clue? He has always kinda treated her like the best friend, i always got the " yo bro, jigri dost" wala vibe from their relationship. Why did Saanjh ever assume that Arjun is hers and hers only and that he cannot love anyone else? Ok, her n his parents were always like, "you are so perf together" but man, did he ever, ever give you any indication of a romance?

Aneri is a good actor but the constant goody-two-shoes behaviour is annoying the hell out of people. Hello, who gave you the right to judge Maya only coz she loves Arjun? Aren't you doing the exact same things to woo Arjun, albeit in a different way, that you accuse Maya of? Why this sense of self-entitlement? Her entire understanding of her relationship with Arjun is based on assumptions and more assumptions. It's okay to be heartbroken, I give you that, but what do you mean when you say that " bhagwan ne mere hisse k pyaar Maya ko de diya" ...i mean seriously? What hissa?
She can be shown as a strong girl who emerges from her heartbreak o find happiness somewhere else but all she does is mope around. Heck, her fantasyland with her duffer is even more important than her career...talk about levels of delusion.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .annihilation.


^^ To all of those, I think more than anything or any body else, everyone including Saanjh assumed whatever they did was because of Arjun. These two families are practically one, closely knit and have been together since forever. Time and again, Arjun has gone on record to explicitly state and express vehemently that Saanjh is the most important person in his life and he in any capacity or universe cannot do without her. Under such circumstances and impressions, it's quite natural for the families or Saanjh for that matter to assume that he'd be cool with their alliance.


arjun was HAPPY abt saanjh gettin married to sum1 else.. infact if i rembr correctly, he even said he ll choose d guy fr her.. he was legit happy & d WHOLE mathur & sharma FAMILY saw his expression as he said dat YES saanjh shud get married soon, & dat he'd choose a guy fr her.. both d families, ayan & saanjh noticed hw hpy he was, while tellin dat..

dey stl expect him to luv her?!

( dis wsnt a post bashin u.. jus wrote my views on it 😃 )
Edited by RebeccaSweety - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: RebeccaSweety


arjun was HAPPY abt saanjh gettin married to sum1 else.. infact if i rembr correctly, he even said he ll choose d guy fr her.. he was legit happy & d WHOLE mathur & sharma FAMILY saw his expression as he said dat YES saanjh shud get married soon, & dat he'd choose a guy fr her.. both d families, ayan & saanjh noticed hw hpy he was, while tellin dat..

dey stl expect him to luv her?!

( dis wsnt a post bashin u.. jus wrote my views on it 😃 )


Yes, that's true. But knowing Saanjh's love and having been a witness to it throughout, both families wanted Saanjh to at least confess her feelings to Arjun once. All they were hoping for was a positive response/outcome. Now that everyone knows of Arjun's choice, I don't think anyone will still push Arjun-Saanjh's alliance forward.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sellysona

Nice post..
I never thought about it but yes saanjh does makes a lot of assumption...
She mostly livs in delusion which is no way her fault..she gets too much influencd by her family and vandana ofcourse..
Btw, seeing maya earring in mandir doesnot make her murderer.. I dont think saanjh thinks this. Bcoz saanjh doesnot know about pandit saying rude words to maya...also maya arjun did wnt to mandir last night so maya earring would have fallen that time.. And also earring was found outside temple and not outside pandit room...
No way saanjh can guess maya any involvement...if she does then she is just making excuses to wrong maya..
What i felt from last epispde, i think she was warning maya about arjun that she wont give him back if maya losses him..


Now that you mention it, that's true. But I wouldn't be surprised if she does assume so in the future. She's a character that seemed to be put together in haste and they're trying to figure out where to take her now.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with the points you made.. If I am not wrong, Saanjh was shown aware of the fact that Arjun is not romantically inclined towards her and loves her only as his friends. Its her parents and Vandana who have been misleading her ..she kinda assumed that because Arjun has no other ''girl'' in his life he will eventually end up with her.. that was my feeling.. Its only when Maya entered the picture I felt she got insecure and raised her own expectations.. I don't think writers tend to portray Saanjh as a ''miss goody two shoes'' character.. she's not.. her underhand threat to Maya yesterday goes to show that she is as much willing to get her hands dirty to get what she wants.. not giving a damn about what Arjun wants.. Does she know Maya's past? why she is the way she is? No.. but her assumption that Maya is ''bad'' , Maya is ''evil'' kinda helps her justify her own actions to keep Maya away from Arjun.. I won't be surprised if she joins hands with Ashwin to ''expose'' Maya infront of Arjun.. Just like the other day when Arjun was beating up Ashwin, she somehow became so sympathetic towards Ashwin.. did she try to find out who Ashwin really was.. how he has physically abused Maya and her mother.. does she care to find all that out? No.. because it won't suit her story where Maya is the villain..
P.S- I think its a blooper by the writers to let Saanjh assume that Arjun had left all those notes and signs for her in Mauritius.. didnt she ask her parents not to inform Arjun.. then how the hell would he know she was there and then plan all that.. ? 😕 another thing, just because Maya's ear ring was near the temple she becomes the murderer? How did Saanjh know Maya was upset with the pandit to the point where she would want to kill him? she wasnt even there when the pandit made all those predictions.. so what could be the motive of the murder according to saanjh?
Edited by MistyDawn - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaputDraconis

I find her delusions to be minor character flaws that can be easily tolerable. It kind of makes her interesting to watch. BUT the love treasure hunt was plain stupid as you mentioned and Saanjh being a lawyer must know it better than anyone else that one doesn't assume anything based on prima facie evidences. Otherwise she's been the only consistent character for me in this show.

If there's any character that's disappointing, it's Maya. But since this post is dedicated to Saanjh, I'm not going to dwell on her.


@bold Precisely!

Initially I found Maya's character to be pretty consistent but in the recent episodes I've realized the writers are changing her character as the show is progressing. We've known that Maya's not feeling love but rather limerence but these recent changes that are appearing are telling me that Maya's character is being reconsidered by the writers which is very disappointing.

It is true that Saanjh has been consistent with her delusions but what is bothering me is how she's being aligned with the typical Mary Sue. She's loved by everyone, is very persuasive, tries to solve all problems, and feels unrequited love with constant tears. I've had this complaint with the writers since the beginning because while they seem to know what the tone of the story should be, they haven't focused on the characters enough. This goes for all characters and not just Saanjh.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishakumar

I also want saanjh to overcome the rejection
And not try and win arjun
Because his feelings are clearly not the same as hers so she should realize that and just try to move on.
She can show eveyone that she doesnt need a guy in her life just to be successful!

Its true she makes many assumptions
And these assumptions land her in trouble
First she assumed that arjun loved her
Then she assumed that arjun is proposing her
Now she is assuming that maya has something to do with the pundit
She seriously has to stop making assumptions and thinking too much 😆


I'd like to see a stronger Saanjh and what she can offer to the show because I know she can do it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pomegranate

I think cv's have purposely showed her character like this, she is far from lachar and bebas. at this point she is only delusional and slightly obsessed with arjun, which is why she can become grey in the future-not necessarily negative.


I personally don't want her to turn negative or grey but rather evolve into a girl that can lock horns with Maya easily. She has very Mary Sue-esque traits.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaenma

Its true...aneri has a lot of potential...but the character of sanjh is so half baked just like arjun that its not stretching her as an actress...having said that i liked her subdued performance yesterday...i could feel a certain amount of zeal in sanjh which was missing before...the upcoming tracks wont always have exotic locations to woo audience...there the individual performance of each actor would play a major role in holding audience's attention...hope the makers realizes that and works accordingly...


Exactly! They've got a brilliant actress on their hands and they just need to focus on that and her character.

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