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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: kavyanjali08




@SaurabhKiRadha you don't get Arjun's mind-set, it's not easy to accept step-mom no matter how close the lady was and I've seen this up-close... I've seen two different families handling the situation differently, a very close family friend I had seen them, Uncle had 02 kids, one boy and one girl from his 1st wife and after his wife's death who were between 06-10 when he re-married his wife's younger sister and they had a son from that... his 1st wife's kids are grown-up and married themselves but still haven't been able to accept their Maasi as their new Mom...in fact I had heard them literally say that the day their Mother died, their father died for them too. They had married because of the kids and they only couldn't accept their step-mom who was their Maasi only because no one had asked them what they felt. Another is my friend, his mom died in car accident and he was the only son...his father didn't remarry no matter how much relatives said until about 02 yrs later he himself had asked his father to...then the lady his father had remarried kept specific conditions that to love his 1st wife's son only will he married and they would not have another child...anyways the point is his father had taken his son's opinion, so he never had hard time accepting his step-mom. So you get the thing what Arjun's father and Vandhana had done, they may have taken the decision for Arjun's betterment but they hadn't included him which led for him to develop such prejudice and the gossip he had heard only strengthen those prejudice he still has...it's not that easy to let them go, maybe if they had talked to him elaborating the situation and including him rather then deciding him on his be-half than things would've been different. They should've sat with Arjun when he was little more grown-up and talked to him about the relationship with Vandhana more clearly, maybe that would'e helped but they didn't do anything that sort which led to what is happening now...so more than Arjun, it is Vandhana and Arjun's father's fault that he thinks so bad about Vandhana..


I kind of agree that part hard to accept that is y i never expect arjun to love v .

But this thing taking child 's opinion is very tricky . Age , thinking ability , rapport of previous parent does matter . U gave me 2 eg but was the age when their father got married , how was their relationship before death ? Wat were circumstances ? The family where children are hating his father married for children or himself. Everything matter b4 conclusion. 6 yaer old arjun might say i don't need /like vegetables so his parents should take his opinion b4 feeding ? Ni they can consider his opinion and try to make it suitable for him . But if the marriage happened with sole intentions to protect n care arjun ( presuming that no other option was there than u can't blame v n mr sharma . V never abused / tortured him so if not love this much hate shouldn't have been there . Fault lies with arjun also.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Saurabh we never told fault doesnt lie with Arjun. We only told to correct him someone has to understand that 6 year old without dismissing it as 6 year old's perception.
It needs somebody's acceptance that what he felt as a 6 year old was right based on the circumstances. Does he feel the same when circumstance has changed. To unlatch that hook some listening capability without judgmental is necessary.

Arjun respects Vandana right. Only thing he doesnt like is she taking decisions for him. If a child doesnt like vegetable what do you do as a parent. Keep the food on the table, tell this is what I have made, if you need have it for your health and push it down the child's throat even if the child screams or will make an effort to prepare a veggie in a way the child likes it. I would do the latter and I do know about people who does the first and then blame the child.

For me Mr Sharma and Vandana did the former while a bit of wait could have ensured the latter happens.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Arjun does not love maya but perhaps that will change with time. Im really curious to see their dynamic
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Saurabh we never told fault doesnt lie with Arjun. We only told to correct him someone has to understand that 6 year old without dismissing it as 6 year old's perception.

It needs somebody's acceptance that what he felt as a 6 year old was right based on the circumstances. Does he feel the same when circumstance has changed. To unlatch that hook some listening capability without judgmental is necessary.

Arjun respects Vandana right. Only thing he doesnt like is she taking decisions for him. If a child doesnt like vegetable what do you do as a parent. Keep the food on the table, tell this is what I have made, if you need have it for your health and push it down the child's throat even if the child screams or will make an effort to prepare a veggie in a way the child likes it. I would do the latter and I do know about people who does the first and then blame the child.

For me Mr Sharma and Vandana did the former while a bit of wait could have ensured the latter happens.

I agree at bold and also agree that V shouldn't be taking descion for arjun . Even i said it in other posts . MY problem is not Y V n Arjun had fight that day My issue is Y still h hates her so Much ( because earlier episodes b4 maya came into picture i never saw her forcing anything on arjun ) he had cold vibes for her for every simple statements .i never approve pushing down the throat . That is why i said u can consider child opinion n try to make it more suitable for him/her. And We have not seen any flashback scenes or any hint that they tried to force down upon him , he still doesn't call her mom , and if they were forcing upon him than how he accepted Ayan . That isArjun's reaction is still look out of proportion no strong evidence. We have to Explain ourself ok his parents were wrong to handle him that is y he is doing this . I will wait for future track for better explanation for my questions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

I agree at bold and also agree that V shouldn't be taking descion for arjun . Even i said it in other posts . MY problem is not Y V n Arjun had fight that day My issue is Y still h hates her so Much ( because earlier episodes b4 maya came into picture i never saw her forcing anything on arjun ) he had cold vibes for her for every simple statements .i never approve pushing down the throat . That is why i said u can consider child opinion n try to make it more suitable for him/her. And We have not seen any flashback scenes or any hint that they tried to force down upon him , he still doesn't call her mom , and if they were forcing upon him than how he accepted Ayan . That isArjun's reaction is still look out of proportion no strong evidence. We have to Explain ourself ok his parents were wrong to handle him that is y he is doing this . I will wait for future track for better explanation for my questions.



The thing is simple, 06 yrs old Arjun felt betrayed by Vandhana whom he was close to...he felt she took his mother away from him and now trying to take his father. That betrayal he felt then made him distant from Vandhana and it just kept growing all these years...also neither Vandhana or anyone else tried to make Arjun understand, they waited for him to understand himself...now its not that easy, it's not that easy to let go your prejudice and also the anger that had built up in Arjun never let him see the things Vandhana did for him, he was letting his anger and prejudice rule his judgement. Also just because he was 06 yr old doesn't mean he doesn't get to put his opinion...especially when it's regarding him...just know this Step-Mom issue is very delicate matter, if not handled properly than major issues can develop like the issues Arjun and Vandhana had. Arjun realized his fault, once he let all the anger out and had a judgmental free talk with Maya also listening to her...it helped him change perspective and see things better. So the thing is had Vandhana or his Dad had listened to all his complains and let him vent his anger, than talk to him and try make him understand than thing would've gotten better long ago. But obviously no one did this...not even Saanjh, they simply start with Vandhana loves you so much Arjun, Vandhana does so much for you Arjun, Vandhana this and Vandhana that... they don't let Arjun speak what actually is troubling him and their talks make him feel like Vandhana is taking away his near ones from him...


Now I'm not defending Arjun or saying the way he behaved was right...he was wrong, what I'm saying that what happened was a result of something Vandhana had herself let happen... she shouldn't have charged Arjun over such a pity issue...I mean Arjun had never said the dress was for Saanjh, they themselves assumed it. And if he gifts Maya the dress than it's his money, he can buy anything for anyone he wants...there is no need to make issues like she did and her approach was also very wrong...taali kabhi ek haath se nahi bajti, fault was of both parties.
Edited by kavyanjali08 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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^^
After watching episode its clear thatt vandana didn't force herself on arjun and they tried to convince him nicely . ( there are dialogues suggestive - like we tried to speak to him , she never slapped him )
About the fight i said i am not taking any1 side for this fight , rather my question was y so much hate ? Initially wen he was 6 year old it was under stable, as he grew he could not see how vandana cares for him? How much pain is there in her eyes ? ( arjun remembers how she use to stay with him when he would cry and wen he was injured she never left him alone ) never mistreated him , infact never raised hand on him to force him & call her maa. He was blinded not just by love for his mother but hate for V, ego and stubbornness. N yes she is wrong to decide for him without consulting him . But she is not bad mother neither she looks responsible for hate brewing in his mind.

And regarding circumstances in which they married , there is possibility that they had no choice but marry , even if 6 year old child never felt the need to have mother , but he did require motherly care na , his father couldn't stay with him 24 hours .

For fight that day V may be responsible n arjun too but for hate i don't know how we can blame 2nd person if we misunderstand them ?

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