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Posted: 9 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: lumos_31

Also, Arjun has always been insensitive towards Saanjh and has insulted her calling her middle class/jealous of his success, and also now the countless incidences happening since maya has entered his life. Do u remember the time Saanjh waited the whole night for Arjun, the day that junoon project was launched? She waited for him too right..And that time Saanjh was genuinely happy for her best friend's success. Saanjh cries, gets hurt and fights with him and all that is very much human of her. What happens after that? Saanjh understands and goes back to being his best friend. So no, you cannot compare Saanjh and Maya at all.

That's Nothing compared to what he did to Maya. Arjun told Maya that he will come you wait. So she waited. He never told Saanjh to wait I will come back and didn't turn up.

Saanjh told Arjun that Maya has not promoted him because of his work but because she loves him despite knowing that Maya never mixes up work with personal life. So he insulted her.

Saanjh's understanding with Arjun is only momentary. She has got to trust him, let him take independent decisions and give him the space he wants.


Edited by katrinasalman - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: tanvismile



Having a successful doesn't mean you aren't mentally ill.No sane person would wait there whole night .Her body language said it all

1.She dint make him come to lonavala for work but to get on hot air balloon.

3.Saanjh Coming to office is too meet her friend which is wrong but it doesn't justify Maya s actions to stop him so they can't meet during lunch time.

Nobody has problem with efforts which are genuine but not manipulative efforts .


An insane person cannot even work well. Forget running a business. Whatever She did was before proposing to him. Arjun can make friends easily with anyone. When Ashwin came to her office and tortured her, he rescued her from that jerk. That was the time she began to develop feelings for him.

She never knew what is love as she's never experienced it. The Cvs also assured that beyhadh love story will be different. If it is a simple one then it will lose its essense. It has to be tadka.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: lumos_31


That's exactly what I am trying to explain. Thank u for articulating it so perfectly.
As for ur point about criminally insane people being in jail, if im not mistaken they do have therapy sessions with psychiatrists. But a criminal act and the impact it has on others cannot be justified at any cost right.


Also I find Arjun to be an immature brat who's low-key sexist and a classist too. None of the girls deserve a doofus like him in all honesty.

Yes, nothing ratifies an act that doesn't adhere to the principles of morality.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: lumos_31

@katrinasalman I think it's best we just agree to disagree.

1. You can be mentally ill and be a professionally successful person. It is not related.
2. Arjun was just an intern at the time. Where was the shoot, even if there was supposed to be one in lonavla. Maya herself put him on holiday and then took that away from him and used it to her benefit
3. Saanjh coming to Arjun's office doesn't justify maya playing mind games to keep Arjun away from Saanjh. If Maya had so much of a problem with Arjun going for lunch with Saanjh,she could've directly told him not to go, but she wanted to be in the good books of Arjun, hence pretended she was okay with Arjun going out with Saanjh and then played this game.

When did I not accept Maya's flaws being a result of her past? I empathize with her as much as u do. But that doesn't mean I would turn a blind eye n try to justify every wrong act of hers. The same is true for Saanjh. I agree she nags, she irritates and she is as flawed as Maya is. But her flaws are much more human than Maya's flaws. Also, what good work has Maya done? Saving Ayaan? Okay, agreed. But after that she did not even ask Ayaan whether he committed the crime. It didn't matter to her and the kid that Ayaan is, he could take it in any way.

She sure can make an effort to win his heart, when did I say no. But there is a difference in this case. If u love somebody, u should be honest with that person, which, until yesterday's episode, maya has never been. She says she is okay with Arjun not loving her, and then once she reaches home, she tells God that Arjun is hers. Again, there is a difference between wanting somebody to love u and making somebody fall in love with u.
And before u bring up Saanjh into this, I'm not even trying to justify her actions through this point.

My point about Maya playing the friendship card was that ultimately it made Arjun do what she wanted, ie hug her back. A normal person would break the hug and wait for the day when Arjun would hug her willingly but Maya wanted Arjun to hug her back and she'd make it happen at any cost. It wasn't harmful to anybody, when did I say it was. It was an example of manipulation.





Agree to disagree is what we are doing because our tastes are different. Our perspectives are different. First of all, an insane person can never run a business. So Maya is not insane. Even if I take it that way, I will say that she is madly in love with Arjun. In that way, she is insane. She waited for him because Arjun told her to wait, assuring that he will be back. But he didn't turn up.

And you cannot take nagging lightly. It has got bad effects and if it crosses the limits, it even breaks the relationship. So there is a fault from Saanjh's side as well as to why Arjun is. drifting away from her.
Edited by katrinasalman - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: lumos_31

Also, Arjun has always been insensitive towards Saanjh and has insulted her calling her middle class/jealous of his success, and also now the countless incidences happening since maya has entered his life. Do u remember the time Saanjh waited the whole night for Arjun, the day that junoon project was launched? She waited for him too right..And that time Saanjh was genuinely happy for her best friend's success. Saanjh cries, gets hurt and fights with him and all that is very much human of her. What happens after that? Saanjh understands and goes back to being his best friend. So no, you cannot compare Saanjh and Maya at all.


Saanjh cannot tolerate anyone coming between Arjun and her. She wants Arjun for herself. Saanjh would have reacted if anyone else was there in Maya's place. FYI whatever Maya did, that was before she proposed to Arjun. I'm telling you over and over again that you can't expect Maya to change overnight. She is a lovelorn person whereas Saanjh has got everything. She can get many Arjuns but Maya can get only one Arjun. I agree with all your points about Saanjh. She does compromise with Arjun but how long will nagging go on? How much one can tolerate this kind of possessiveness and dictating terms? Arjun is not a baby that she should baby and spoon feed him. He needs to take an independent whether to go 4 Maya or Saanjh or any other girl.

Ashwin is responsible for Maya's mental condition. It can happen to anyone. A psychiatrist can only treat the patient but they cannot fulfill the patient's desires. True love can heal a person. It can do wonders. Maya is now able to face Ashwin to an extent ever since Arjun came in her life and stood for her.That itself is an indication that his love can be a medicine for her.

Suman and Vandana took Saanjh's horoscopes to the astrologer & that too to their family astrologer. Even he told they don't match. Normally, the family who believes in horoscopes will never proceed with the relationships if they don't match. But they are bent on uniting them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#86
@katrinasalman Time and again you bring flaws of characters of saanjh and arjun to justify maya s actions. How is that correct?
We have accepted all the flaws of saanjh and arjun too

But looks like you are refusing to accept one major point that

Maya has used Manipulation to make Arjun love her back
Like she gets completely disturbed about saanjh arjun friendship. Does arjun knows that? She hacked his account and made him a fool by telling him that they share same taste which is false... Does arjun know that?
She intentionally gave promotion to his friends to stop him from going out for lunch with saanjh...
Does arjun know that?

Maya was eating ice cream and enjoying saanjh and arjun fight..
Does arjun know that?

So once he knows these things because one can't forever lie will he accept maya.. Won't he feel betrayed and hurt?
This is exactly we are pointing out...

We all even saanjh and arjun has flaws but their flaws are open. They don't project an image which they are not.

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Posted: 9 years ago
#87
just agree to disagree and move on. you guys have way too much energy
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Posted: 9 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: tanvismile

I think the theme of show I exciting and they should stick to the theme .After Mauritius sequence I m waiting for Maya to get in the avatar which she was shown in promo.The main story will start after Mauritius sequence.
If Maya turns positive and saanjh negative then that would biggest cliche of Indian Television. Plus it would ruin the unique concept of behadh.
Maya s past has to layered and there are lots of questions which make us stick to this show .We are unable to predict them while saanjh being negative the fact that we are able predict itself proves that its one of the most used concept .


Agree with u on this.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile

@katrinasalman Time and again you bring flaws of characters of saanjh and arjun to justify maya s actions. How is that correct?

We have accepted all the flaws of saanjh and arjun too

But looks like you are refusing to accept one major point that

Maya has used Manipulation to make Arjun love her back
Like she gets completely disturbed about saanjh arjun friendship. Does arjun knows that? She hacked his account and made him a fool by telling him that they share same taste which is false... Does arjun know that?
She intentionally gave promotion to his friends to stop him from going out for lunch with saanjh...
Does arjun know that?

Maya was eating ice cream and enjoying saanjh and arjun fight..
Does arjun know that?

So once he knows these things because one can't forever lie will he accept maya.. Won't he feel betrayed and hurt?
This is exactly we are pointing out...

We all even saanjh and arjun has flaws but their flaws are open. They don't project an image which they are not.


And you guys are justifying Saanjh finding faults in Maya.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: tanvismile

@katrinasalman Time and again you bring flaws of characters of saanjh and arjun to justify maya s actions. How is that correct?

We have accepted all the flaws of saanjh and arjun too

But looks like you are refusing to accept one major point that

Maya has used Manipulation to make Arjun love her back
Like she gets completely disturbed about saanjh arjun friendship. Does arjun knows that? She hacked his account and made him a fool by telling him that they share same taste which is false... Does arjun know that?
She intentionally gave promotion to his friends to stop him from going out for lunch with saanjh...
Does arjun know that?

Maya was eating ice cream and enjoying saanjh and arjun fight..
Does arjun know that?

So once he knows these things because one can't forever lie will he accept maya.. Won't he feel betrayed and hurt?
This is exactly we are pointing out...

We all even saanjh and arjun has flaws but their flaws are open. They don't project an image which they are not.


I do accept Maya's flaws but I feel you people are bashing her more than anyone else.

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