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Originally posted by: katrinasalman
@SaurabhKiRadhaSee if arjun had informed n saanjh had done maaya jaap sticking to her zid than i could point out her mistake, but arjun committed mistake by hiding, did it help him no! If had told than atleast she would not feel betrayed. Than it was upto her to respect arjun's feeling n freedom . I agree often saanjh wen advice she almost looks like controlling him but if u observe in the end she bends to arjun , arjun's words are final .she can't control him even if she tries coz arjun is her weakness she gives up in argument. .Yes, that is true and Saanjh would have exactly done that. She would have stuck to her zid and had done Maya jaap. Accepted that Arjun has lied but he never intended to hurt Saanjh. All lies are not bad. If Arjun had lied to her, Saanjh should ask herself about why he is hiding things from her. He lied to her as he feels that Saanjh won't understand and he is right. I agree that Arjun will do what he wants whether Saanjh likes it or not. Even is she loses the argument, Arjun has to pacify her when he sees her upset. Saanjh won't understand Arjun's pov because of her Maya jaap. That is why he feels that it is better to hide rather than explaining her.Ya very well n it will be applicable to every ckt n every situation. There is thin line , u should be limit to possessiveness. N i cant predict yet who will cross that limit.Yes, you should have some possessiveness but only when the other person understands your feelings and reciprocates to it. Arjun is not aware of what Saanjh feels for him and there is absolutely no indication about Arjun loving Saanjh. If he really loved Saanjh, he would have told that Saanjh's marriage cannot take place with that guy whom her parents found for her. He would have been said that he will marry Saanjh. How will Arjun even know that Saanjh loves him when she has not even told him. No one has even asked him about his opinion about marriage. How can anyone decide about somebody without even knowing their views?That is what is happening with Arjun.I said i support her possessiveness to certain extent , i am ok with her nagging n fight . But i will not appreciate her spygiri if she will do thats wat maya did in lonavala track , she has to let go arjun if arjun does not give her importance she desires from him n allow him to decided his future even if he is wrong not tryig to correct him .let him learn from his mistakes.Either Saanjh should confess her feelings to Arjun and get a positive nod from him or Arjun himself should propose to her. Only then the question of being possessive occurs. As for the spygirl, the same applies to Saanjh. It is easy to say that Maya should leave Arjun alone if he does not give her the importance she wants and that is right but the same applies to Saanjh as well. Despite getting an earful from him, Saanjh still chases him and that is absolutely wrong. Maya, on the other hand told Arjun that she loves him but it is her problem. Not his.Maya giving space is not beyhadhgiri , but her conversation with mom when she says it doesn't matter wat is reply of arjun i know he will love me he has too . Using emotional cards to call him in nights with ice-cream, lonavala trip she got by cancelling his off that too indirectly . Her means to get close to arjun are manipuative . Also there are instances 1-2 where she consoled arjun without manipulation , but remember that tym no saanjh or 3rd person in picture. N I am saying how we can predict maya will lead normal life once she get arjun. She will still feel insecure with every girl he interacts. She sacked journalist for that.Yes, that is true and Saanjh would have exactly done that. She would have stuck to her zid and had done Maya jaap. Accepted that Arjun has lied but he never intended to hurt Saanjh. All lies are not bad. If Arjun had lied to her, Saanjh should ask herself about why he is hiding things from her. He lied to her as he feels that Saanjh won't understand and he is right. I agree that Arjun will do what he wants whether Saanjh likes it or not. Even is Saanjh loses the argument, Arjun has to pacify her when she does not talk to him. Saanjh is not in a condition to understand Arjun's pov because of her Maya jaap. That is why he feels that it is better to hide rather than explaining her.Both are possessive, just because maya proposed n saanjh did not that doesnt make possessivenes a crime . I will call sanjh obsessive when she will follow arjun n maya n manipulate situations to separate them , or emotionally blackmail him to get him
That is what Saanjh is going to do in the upcoming episodes. She will follow them for Mauritius trip and even join hands with Ashwin to separate Arya. If that happens, there won't be much difference between Saanjh & Maya. Why should Maya suffer because of her past and that too from her own father? She has got every right to live happily.Eating vada pav n stall tea is not changing it is way to show see i can do this for u i can accept your habits i can change u have to accept me . there is no need for that if they have to fall in love they can by respecting each other s habits not forcefully adapting habits. I don't expect maya to change over night i want see if maya can adjust in his life , will she learn that she has to win hostile vandana? maya's reaction to V will not win v's heart .Will maya come to stay at arjun's place or she will make him gharjamai . How she will deal with her past when it will rise again n again in their relationship. How she will change her perception that she has negative vibes . Patience n politeness is key . Its not about saanjh it also about every person with whom arjun will get connected . Can maya share her love with them ? Too early to predict wen right now no such evidence . Surely maya has bad past she needs love but if arjun does not love her ,than her action to forcefully hold him is not acceptable. N wat if another person enters in maya's life who will love without terms n conditions . Than maya can forget arjun n move on .My dear friend, it is not about eating vada pav & ice cream. When did Maya say that she will change you have to accept me. She has never uttered these words. I support that to some extent. I don't support her for what she did in that hot balloon scene. When Maya proposed to Arjun, he was shocked and speechless. He only told her that she is his boss and he is her employee. It is not a direct 'no'. Maya is very clever. She understands human nature and uses different strategies which I support to some extent. She has promoted Arjun only on the basis of his performance. That's it. Money cannot buy love. If Arjun has come close to her, it is because of Saanjh and Vandana's snobbish behavior and Maya did a good turn, bailing Ayan out when he had to be in jail for 2 days.Y to promote jenny as beyhadgiri girl if saanjh willl do beyhadgiri . They can start promoting aneri now . Thing is this grey maya is very interesting ckt to play not boring n predicable villain the one u can sympathise also . That is the reason jenny accepted it n we should respect it even if it means she will play negative . I don't like when people forcefully want to see maya positive . Let her be the grey she has both whites n black in her it makes her look real . This maya is unpredictable there we get thrill factor .wethether arya happens or arsa is not important allow the story to progress. THe theme is obsession n one cannot support obsession wether saanjh as lead will do it or maya as lead will do it . N whoever is main antagonist here she has more importance n chance to perform as actor .Are there any such rules that only Maya should do beyhadgiri? It does not matter who does it, be it Jenifer or Aneri as long as the meaning of the title is fulfilled. Maya is gray but she is not a vamp. She loves Arjun as much as Saanjh does. I can't predict whether Jenifer will play negative in future or not. It is upto the CVs how to take the storyline though most of us want Arya to unite. There are so many shows which do not fulfill the meaning of the title and most of them are saas-bahu type serials. For e.g. Saath Nibhana Saathiya is more about saas-bahu though Saathiya means husband.
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Dear disscussion are going round n round on same topic
1 u are contradicting to urself at many places u say yes saanjh would have done this saanjh would have done that but when i raise questions based on the ckt of maya which is promoted to be like obessive women n she has shown obessive streaks ( in between interval normal maya does not cancel her obessive side ) u say how i can say so ? How u can predict it . I carefully used ? There coz this are just possibility based on her ckt n theme . N same way u can't say how saanjh would have reacted until she does it if there is no guarantee that maya will not turn negative there is no guarantee that Saanjh will turn negative n maya will come out clean ?
2 disscussion was wether covering up by arjun right or wrong.
Best way to switch place what if maya n arjun had their pvt place n saanjh had done zid to see it ? Irrespective wat is reaction of maya , should arjun have taken saanjh there without informing maya n keeping jhanvi as guard there ? What maya would have felt when she comes to know about it from other person ?
Now don't say maya would have understood arjun not reacted at all , coz this will be just ur hypothesis n maya has reacted cvery strongly wen saanjh is near arjun eg glass breaking scenes . Even saanjh is insecure infact her reactions are vocal but maya fumes insides n it can errupt as volcano. Plus even if i say saanjh is obessive short tempered girl it will not justify maya's obsession n same true for viceversa situation.
3 just because m has confessed her love n s has not it doesn't mean maya can be possessive n saanjh cannot. Saanjh is part of arjun life even b4 maya knew about arjun she has important place even if arjun does not love her . Both can be possessivenes but it should not be limitless.
4 i said i will not support spygiri if saanjh does it like maya . There are tc article saying that , n i always wait for track to get onair b4 jumping on conclusion . If she is following to propose arjun no problem , if she is going to keep eye on them no argument justifies this stupidity.
5 u said saanjh would have done like maya getting insecure with every girl he talks . But i don't remember any such scenes . Infact only wen she realised maya is extremely crazy for arjun she became protective n possessive that too coz arjun didnot believe het pov .
6 correction u misread me , maya didn't say it she meant it with action . She hates ice-cream, she doesn't eat mir chi or drink stall tea . Now she can accept arun with all this habits without forcing it on herself and the way she ate thos mirch , het look to saanjh n v said it like i can handle anything to prove that shefits in life of arjun . This is not called changing. N love is not war to use strategy like u said . There is difference between 'paana' n hasil karna . Maya ko arjun hasil ho jayege with this so called wooing . To win his heart he will need 100 % normal honest maya or his love should be true for imperfect maya . Right now no such scenario . Arjun loves his life work career >>>> maya , saanjh being frnzoned is not enough to get arjun for maya .
7 no rules that only jenny should be obessive girl in beyhad but she herself chose to play it . Beyhadh is finite series with ver avg trp to compile cvs to change concept 360 it happens in infinite series n often such show flops . N i don't mind if saanjh becomes obessive but thing isthis 360 change should look realistic . Than saanjh will get more screen space , she will be prominent face of promotion n maya will become boring. But i prefer jenny coz she is experienced actress to handle such complx ckt..
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