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Posted: 9 years ago
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@katrinasalman u missed the whole point of disscussion here , i replied to her post discussing about wether one should do the things hiding from your frn or not . Just coz arjun tried to cover up the fact that he took maya to terrace situation worsen. If has to inform saajh she would have become angry but not felt betrayed or hurt .

Y to bring pairing n judge in advance who is best for arjun ? Unilateral love is not enough to start relationship be it saanjh or maya?

And this from my another post
Maya she is giving him space that makes her LOOK more sensible than saanjh , coz saanjh has shown desperate attempts to confront arjun n talk about maya in mixed emotions of fear, love , possessivenes . But still i am conscious about maya , she is giving him space yet she is assuming he Will accept her n there is no other way . She has given subtle hints of her obsession on hot air ballon wen she was even stepping back wen she felt arjun will say no , her convo with saanjh at dinner , her manipulation to get arjun's hug ( when she feels arjun not hugging her back out of fear to commitments than she plays frnship card) n than at office she manipulated situation so arjun comes to office rather than spending time with Saanjh.

The question is how long this maya will be stable n appear to be sensible ? Will she understands that marriage means not owning arjun , it means accepting him as well as his family , striking balance between both his n her lifestyle . It means she should know she will have to compromise , she will have to accept saanjh coz even as just frn she will be integral part of arjun's life . She should get over her past , and know to live her present coz ashwin will often create turbulence in her life . Will she react sensibly in such situations or take dark steps ?

N if maya is supposed to be normal n she will not do any beyhadgiri than this show shouldn't be named beyhad it should be normal love triangle.

Thats my ans /pov regarding space thing i am still doubtful n i can trust maya only after watching her progress in future track .


Regarding saanjh her possessiveness is understood able upto certain extent. She is not his wife but she does all the duties that wife would have done to care n protect arjun n ontop arjun allows it to do . But at one point of time i feel she should let go arjun make him realise his needs n mistakes byhimself and give importance to her self respect over self lessnes. N if arjun really loves maya dun worry she will back off.

Edited by SaurabhKiRadha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

@katrinasalman u missed the whole point of disscussion here , i replied to her post discussing about wether one should do the things hiding from your frn or not . Just coz arjun tried to cover up the fact that he took maya to terrace situation worsen. If has to inform saajh she would have become angry but not felt betrayed or hurt .

Y to bring pairing n judge in advance who is best for arjun ? Unilateral love is not enough to start relationship be it saanjh or maya?

And this from my another post
Maya she is giving him space that makes her LOOK more sensible than saanjh , coz saanjh has shown desperate attempts to confront arjun n talk about maya in mixed emotions of fear, love , possessivenes . But still i am conscious about maya , she is giving him space yet she is assuming he Will accept her n there is no other way . She has given subtle hints of her obsession on hot air ballon wen she was even stepping back wen she felt arjun will say no , her convo with saanjh at dinner , her manipulation to get arjun's hug ( when she feels arjun not hugging her back out of fear to anu commitments than she plays frnship card) n than at office she manipulated situation so arjun comes to office than spends time with Saanjh.

The question is how long this maya will be stable n appear to be sensible ? Will she understands that marriage means not owning arjun , it means accepting him as well as his family , striking balance between both his n her lifestyle . It means she should know she will have to compromise , she will have to accept saanjh coz even as just frn she will be integral part of arjun's life . She should get over her past , and know to live her present coz ashwin will often create turbulence in her life . Will she react sensibly in such situations or take dark steps ?

N if maya is supposed to be normal n she will not do any beyhadgiri than this show shouldn't be named beyhad it should be normal love triangle.

Thats my ans /pov regarding space thing i am still doubtful n i can trust maya only after watching her progress in future track .


Regarding saanjh her possessiveness is understood able upto certain extent. She is not his wife but she does all the duties that wife would have done to care n protect arjun n ontop arjun allows it to do . But at one point of time i feel she should let go arjun make him realise his needs n mistakes byhimself and give importance to her self respect over self lessnes. N if arjun really loves maya dun worry she will back off.

yes agreed with you 👏 'TOTALLY AGREED"
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Kritika-


sweet heart i think you don't understand maya's character here if arjun do something like this so she never over react front of arjun or ask him many question because she never get down her impression front of him she give him a sweet smile and said it's fine but she do something reckless with that person who was take her arjun away from her ... she is possessive for him but dangerous for others ... there is a difference




Yes I knew about maya character and have written about her in my earlier posts that she would be sweet infront of Arjun and doing all she wants peet peeche... now she can do this but how long can she hide all from Arjun and Arjun can't be dumber life long like he is now... a point will surely come where maya will burst out infront of Arjun if she knows that it's not in her hands... we saw how she handles jhanvi... same way she will be with Arjun...


Let's say Arjun maya are in relationship or best frz and Arjun character is same so he will be frz with other girls just like maya... if a third girl who is more powerful caring person than maya enters Arjun life and friends with him... definitely maya can't do much to her like how she used to do others... if she witness Arjun and the girl becoming more close to him and also Arjun enjoying her company and may lie(if Arjun doesn't want to tell maya) then at some point maya will confront him losing her patience ... Arjun will reply her like how She is doing with saanj now that he can be frz with anyone not only her..

At that time maya will know the pain of becoming third person and may actually feel saanj pain... unknowingly or knowingly she is the cause of saanj pain... Arjun and saanj were like fevicol buddies till maya entered... they didn't allow third person in between them( as frz only) but now third person came... Arjun used to spend lots of time with saanj then and now his priorities change bcz of his ambition.. once he achieves his ambition he craves for relations... now he is spending more time with maya and in future he may spend time with other girl whom he friends with than maya... at that time maya will get hurt though she may or may not say outside...

So basically Arjun character needs to be in such away that he acts smart not dumber and respect relationships...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

@katrinasalman u missed the whole point of disscussion here , i replied to her post discussing about wether one should do the things hiding from your frn or not . Just coz arjun tried to cover up the fact that he took maya to terrace situation worsen. If has to inform saajh she would have become angry but not felt betrayed or hurt .

Y to bring pairing n judge in advance who is best for arjun ? Unilateral love is not enough to start relationship be it saanjh or maya?

And this from my another post
Maya she is giving him space that makes her LOOK more sensible than saanjh , coz saanjh has shown desperate attempts to confront arjun n talk about maya in mixed emotions of fear, love , possessivenes . But still i am conscious about maya , she is giving him space yet she is assuming he Will accept her n there is no other way . She has given subtle hints of her obsession on hot air ballon wen she was even stepping back wen she felt arjun will say no , her convo with saanjh at dinner , her manipulation to get arjun's hug ( when she feels arjun not hugging her back out of fear to commitments than she plays frnship card) n than at office she manipulated situation so arjun comes to office rather than spending time with Saanjh.

The question is how long this maya will be stable n appear to be sensible ? Will she understands that marriage means not owning arjun , it means accepting him as well as his family , striking balance between both his n her lifestyle . It means she should know she will have to compromise , she will have to accept saanjh coz even as just frn she will be integral part of arjun's life . She should get over her past , and know to live her present coz ashwin will often create turbulence in her life . Will she react sensibly in such situations or take dark steps ?

N if maya is supposed to be normal n she will not do any beyhadgiri than this show shouldn't be named beyhad it should be normal love triangle.

Thats my ans /pov regarding space thing i am still doubtful n i can trust maya only after watching her progress in future track .


Regarding saanjh her possessiveness is understood able upto certain extent. She is not his wife but she does all the duties that wife would have done to care n protect arjun n ontop arjun allows it to do . But at one point of time i feel she should let go arjun make him realise his needs n mistakes byhimself and give importance to her self respect over self lessnes. N if arjun really loves maya dun worry she will back off.




Exactly my thoughts ⭐️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv




Yes I knew about maya character and have written about her in my earlier posts that she would be sweet infront of Arjun and doing all she wants peet peeche... now she can do this but how long can she hide all from Arjun and Arjun can't be dumber life long like he is now... a point will surely come where maya will burst out infront of Arjun if she knows that it's not in her hands... we saw how she handles jhanvi... same way she will be with Arjun...


Let's say Arjun maya are in relationship or best frz and Arjun character is same so he will be frz with other girls just like maya... if a third girl who is more powerful caring person than maya enters Arjun life and friends with him... definitely maya can't do much to her like how she used to do others... if she witness Arjun and the girl becoming more close to him and also Arjun enjoying her company and may lie(if Arjun doesn't want to tell maya) then at some point maya will confront him losing her patience ... Arjun will reply her like how She is doing with saanj now that he can be frz with anyone not only her..

At that time maya will know the pain of becoming third person and may actually feel saanj pain... unknowingly or knowingly she is the cause of saanj pain... Arjun and saanj were like fevicol buddies till maya entered... they didn't allow third person in between them( as frz only) but now third person came... Arjun used to spend lots of time with saanj then and now his priorities change bcz of his ambition.. once he achieves his ambition he craves for relations... now he is spending more time with maya and in future he may spend time with other girl whom he friends with than maya... at that time maya will get hurt though she may or may not say outside...

So basically Arjun character needs to be in such away that he acts smart not dumber and respect relationships...

yes sweetiee i understand your point very well yes you're right but my point of view is i don't think if this happened so she'll do over react front of him yes her temperature goes higher may be she do something horrible like what she did with sanjh when she invite her for dinner or may be more dangerous then that but i don't think she said something to him because arjun is a character who hate control by others he is a free spirit if someone try to control him or put their nose everywhere in his life he can't tolerate that person so i don't know how long she plays her games but may be in future she'll be convert into a positive character i have intuitions
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

@katrinasalman u missed the whole point of disscussion here , i replied to her post discussing about wether one should do the things hiding from your frn or not . Just coz arjun tried to cover up the fact that he took maya to terrace situation worsen. If has to inform saajh she would have become angry but not felt betrayed or hurt .

Y to bring pairing n judge in advance who is best for arjun ? Unilateral love is not enough to start relationship be it saanjh or maya?

And this from my another post
Maya she is giving him space that makes her LOOK more sensible than saanjh , coz saanjh has shown desperate attempts to confront arjun n talk about maya in mixed emotions of fear, love , possessivenes . But still i am conscious about maya , she is giving him space yet she is assuming he Will accept her n there is no other way . She has given subtle hints of her obsession on hot air ballon wen she was even stepping back wen she felt arjun will say no , her convo with saanjh at dinner , her manipulation to get arjun's hug ( when she feels arjun not hugging her back out of fear to commitments than she plays frnship card) n than at office she manipulated situation so arjun comes to office rather than spending time with Saanjh.

The question is how long this maya will be stable n appear to be sensible ? Will she understands that marriage means not owning arjun , it means accepting him as well as his family , striking balance between both his n her lifestyle . It means she should know she will have to compromise , she will have to accept saanjh coz even as just frn she will be integral part of arjun's life . She should get over her past , and know to live her present coz ashwin will often create turbulence in her life . Will she react sensibly in such situations or take dark steps ?

N if maya is supposed to be normal n she will not do any beyhadgiri than this show shouldn't be named beyhad it should be normal love triangle.

Thats my ans /pov regarding space thing i am still doubtful n i can trust maya only after watching her progress in future track .


Regarding saanjh her possessiveness is understood able upto certain extent. She is not his wife but she does all the duties that wife would have done to care n protect arjun n ontop arjun allows it to do . But at one point of time i feel she should let go arjun make him realise his needs n mistakes byhimself and give importance to her self respect over self lessnes. N if arjun really loves maya dun worry she will back off.


I am not saying that Arjun is right hiding these things from Saanjh but what I am saying is if he does tell her, she will fight with him and do Maya jaap. That's why he avoids telling her. The more she controls, the more he will drift away from her.

I hope you know the proverb, "If you love someone, let him/her fly wherever they want. If they come back to you, they are yours. If they don't, then it is not meant for you."

But Saanjh is following the policy, "If you love someone, don't let him go to anywhere. Keep the track on that person."

When Maya is giving him the space how can that be her beyhadgiri? Saanjh behaves like a posessive girlfriend without confessing her feelings towards him. That is her behadgiri. So Saanjh is more obsessive than Maya.

As for her understanding about marriage, Arjun's love will definitely change her. Maya is changing for Arjun. You can't expect her to change fully overnight. It is not only the girl who has to change, it is also the guy and his family who has to change. But Vandana is calling her chudail when Saanjh has not confessed her love for Arjun.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Kritika-


yes sweetiee i understand your point very well yes you're right but my point of view is i don't think if this happened so she'll do over react front of him yes her temperature goes higher may be she do something horrible like what she did with sanjh when she invite her for dinner or may be more dangerous then that but i don't think she said something to him because arjun is a character who hate control by others he is a free spirit if someone try to control him or put their nose everywhere in his life he can't tolerate that person so i don't know how long she plays her games but may be in future she'll be convert into a positive character i have intuitions



That's why I'm saying Arjun is dumbest 😆 he only sees outer things like saanj said... he cannot see beyond that... Arjun hates to be controlled but indirectly is getting controlled by maya professionally Andy personally too... right now maya is behaving sensible which I can't believe where does this sensibility go while dealing with her mom... yes she will turn positive character at the end but before that as the show name suggests we have to witness her behad giri... as of now seeing poster and promos it's maya behadness than to assume any other like saanj or vandana or suman or prem
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I wanted to say about arjun hiding things from saanjh and lieing to her.. Not evry lie has bad intentions..sometimes if ppl r hiding things from u then u must question urself.. Few lies are said not bcoz thy want to hurt the other, but bcoz thy know the other person wont understand him/her..so hiding is best rescue thn instead of explaning..
I can give a practical example of ppl lying bcoz thy thnk its better thn explanation and bcoz thy feel ppl dont understand thm... But it may go offtopic here..
I understand your sentiments about saanjh feeling hurt due to arjun lies.. But saanjh is in fault here along wth arjun. .. Arjun is forced to lie fearing saanjh wont understnd..and he is right...she do gets angry whn she knws..and evrytime arjun pacify her in his own way so we cant say arjun dont care relations...if he wouldnt care he would hve lft saanjh being angry and move on...a guy efforts is to be appreciated...we must not forget he is unaware of saanjh love for him...thn hw can he knw his actions hurts her...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Maya's behaviour is way out of line sometimes but without that obsessive streak, she is a good person. people think that just because she is manipulative, that every action of hers is a well planned illusion but it is not. she loves arjun but genuinely enjoys spending time with and without her dirty games, her bond with him strengthened. the maya we saw at rooftop, basement, and ice cream scene is the real maya-the maya that has been buried by decades of abuse. I agree that she is toxic but not every single thing about her is bad, give her credit where she deserves but call her out on her shitty behaviour.
Maya is the third person in arjun and saanjh's friendship but since arjun only has platonic feelings for her, he will one day find another girl and saanjh will go through the same pain. maybe a little less but she would still be broken. let's not say arjun does not feel for her because maya is in the picture, the connection simply is not there as of now.

The entire point of this show is maya's obsession. will arjun run away once he gets a clear(honest) picture of her life and mental condition? I don't think so. he will freak out , get angry but he will not leave maya to destroy herself, the paint scene solidified that. I'm not team arya or team saajun, I'm team maya. She is not perfect but underneath all that hatred, is a girl who had everything snatched away from her which is why she desperately tries to hold on to those she loves- even it means adopting inappropriate methods. I'm rooting for her because she deserves a second chance at life, and someone needs to be there by her side while she faces her demons.

as for arjun and saanjh. i felt he was wrong in taking maya to their spot as saanjh said that it was an exclusive place. however he does not have any obligation to buy her dresses and ice cream. saanjh has every right to feel upset but arjun does not owe her anything regarding that or provide explanations on why spends time with maya. yes they are best friends, but does he need to explain everything and share every detail about what he does with his time?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am not saying that Arjun is right hiding these things from Saanjh but what I am saying is if he does tell her, she will fight with him and do Maya jaap. That's why he avoids telling her. The more she controls, the more he will drift away from her.
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See if arjun had informed n saanjh had done maaya jaap sticking to her zid than i could point out her mistake, but arjun committed mistake by hiding, did it help him no! If had told than atleast she would not feel betrayed. Than it was upto her to respect arjun's feeling n freedom . I agree often saanjh wen advice she almost looks like controlling him but if u observe in the end she bends to arjun , arjun's words are final .she can't control him even if she tries coz arjun is her weakness she gives up in argument. .

I hope you know the proverb, "If you love someone, let him/her fly wherever they want. If they come back to you, they are yours. If they don't, then it is not meant for you."

Ya very well n it will be applicable to every ckt n every situation. There is thin line , u should be limit to possessiveness. N i cant predict yet who will cross that limit.

But Saanjh is following the policy, "If you love someone, don't let him go to anywhere. Keep the track on that person."

I said i support her possessiveness to certain extent , i am ok with her nagging n fight . But i will not appreciate her spygiri if she will do thats wat maya did in lonavala track , she has to let go arjun if arjun does not give her importance she desires from him n allow him to decided his future even if he is wrong not tryig to correct him .let him learn from his mistakes.

When Maya is giving him the space how can that be her beyhadgiri? Saanjh behaves like a posessive girlfriend without confessing her feelings towards him. That is her behadgiri. So Saanjh is more obsessive than Maya.


Maya giving space is not beyhadhgiri , but her conversation with mom when she says it doesn't matter wat is reply of arjun i know he will love me he has too . Using emotional cards to call him in nights with ice-cream, lonavala trip she got by cancelling his off that too indirectly . Her means to get close to arjun are manipuative . Also there are instances 1-2 where she consoled arjun without manipulation , but remember that tym no saanjh or 3rd person in picture. N i am saying how we can predict maya will lead normal life once she get arjun. She will still feel insecure with every girl he interacts. She sacked journalist for that.

Both are possessive, just because maya proposed n saanjh did not that doesnt make possessivenes a crime . I will call sanjh obsessive when she will follow arjun n maya n manipulate situations to separate them , or emotionally blackmail him to get him

As for her understanding about marriage, Arjun's love will definitely change her. Maya is changing for Arjun. You can't expect her to change fully overnight. It is not only the girl who has to change, it is also the guy and his family who has to change. But Vandana is calling her chudail when Saanjh has not confessed her love for Arjun.

Eating vada pav n stall tea is not changing it is way to show see i can do this for u i can accept your habits i can change u have to accept me . there is no need for that if they have to fall in love they can by respecting each other s habits not forcefully adapting habits. I don't expect maya to change over night i want see if maya can adjust in his life , will she learn that she has to win hostile vandana? maya's reaction to V will not win v's heart .Will maya come to stay at arjun's place or she will make him gharjamai . How she will deal with her past when it will rise again n again in their relationship. How she will change her perception that she has negative vibes . Patience n politeness is key . Its not about saanjh it also about every person with whom arjun will get connected . Can maya share her love with them ? Too early to predict wen right now no such evidence . Surely maya has bad past she needs love but if arjun does not love her ,than her action to forcefully hold him is not acceptable. N wat if another person enters in maya's life who will love without terms n conditions . Than maya can forget arjun n move on .


Y to promote jenny as beyhadgiri girl if saanjh willl do beyhadgiri . They can start promoting aneri now . Thing is this grey maya is very interesting ckt to play not boring n predicable villain the one u can sympathise also . That is the reason jenny accepted it n we should respect it even if it means she will play negative . I don't like when people forcefully want to see maya positive . Let her be the grey she has both whites n black in her it makes her look real . This maya is unpredictable there we get thrill factor .wethether arya happens or arsa is not important allow the story to progress. THe theme is obsession n one cannot support obsession wether saanjh as lead will do it or maya as lead will do it . N whoever is main antagonist here she has more importance n chance to perform as actor .
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