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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Loved your post. Problem with both Maya and Saanjh is that both does not know what Arjun wants or what Arjun will chose. Hence the insecurity. So Maya tries to be obsessive, Saanjh goes beserk and insecure.

If you look at Arjun he is least concerned about the tantrums of these woman and is lost in his own world of dreams of wealth and power. For him Saanjh offers solace and Maya offers power. He needs both and at this point believes he will get it undisturbingly whenever he wants it.

He cares for any relation when it is at his face or when he sees serious trouble, otherwise it is my way or highway for him too.

So if you see all the 3 characters have my way or highway principle in various quantities just like you had mentioned in one of your posts, beyhadh or limitless of Arjun, Maya and Saanjh.

But all 3 of them will have to bend down in varying degress to know what life is. It can never be my way or highway for anyone. That principle will never help them to live, it will only take them to destruction along with the destruction of near and dear ones.


Shruthi! 😳 Thank you! Exactly. They're all basically trying figure life and themselves out and I don't really see a reason big enough for me to bash them left, right and center and not be able to get them from their respective point of views. @bold though - Touche! 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Spot on, lovely post and everything you said was perfect 😆 ❤️
Both of them used the same line, it indicates both are just as obsessive over Arjun

let the war begin between Maya n saanjh 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post. I am personally not here to Ship any couple. I think Jenny and Kushal look good together, but those are the actors, not the characters.

I think Arjun is one confused Mother and he has NO idea about what either of these women want from him. At least with Maya she has "put it out there", so he has SOME idea of what she is after. But he is yet to know the Beyhadness of her love. Man will be scared when he finds out, or experience the darker shades of Maya.


Saanjh is acting so insecure and whiney that she is driving Arjun more and more away from herself. Arjun being "duffer" does not get why Saanjh is so hormonal. It is high time someone enlightens him even if it is not Saanjh. This cluelessness and this worst kept secret that only Arjun doesn't know is starting to grate!


There are a lot of anti Saanjh posts and I agree with some of them, though I try to avoid war zones. What I did not like was any member telling others what they can and cannot say. Saanjh's character has been shown as totally absorbed in Arjun, not having a life and just being his shadow. Their relationship has been highly co-dependent. Maybe that is why a lot of people find her grating. There have been no real boundaries in the Arjun and Saanjh friendship and that is the problem.

I am in this to watch the way the story goes. I know there will be a love story, but will it end the traditional way? I hope there is more to it. I did not tune in to watch a cliche and I hope they dont deliver that.



BTW, I am a huge Sherlock fan in general and Cumberbatch fan in particular!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ani all the 3 are imperfect and that is what I like about them also. And I would prefer the show keeps that imperfectness intact. I dont want that mahanta in any character.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: xsumi

Spot on, lovely post and everything you said was perfect 😆 ❤️
Both of them used the same line, it indicates both are just as obsessive over Arjun

let the war begin between Maya n saanjh 😆


Thanks! Although, what made you think that I support the argument that Saanjh is obsessed? Was it my title or something in my post? 😆 The title was basically mean to indicate the state of the forum and how most people must have rejoiced when the statement came through Saanjh. And more than half of the post concentrates on explaining the contrast between the two scenes. The only person who falls in the bracket of the definition of obsessed that I think applies to beyhadh's context is Maya. I do not think that Saanjh is obsessed. If she is, then each and every character in show too is.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Great post. I am personally not here to Ship any couple. I think Jenny and Kushal look good together, but those are the actors, not the characters.

I think Arjun is one confused Mother and he has NO idea about what either of these women want from him. At least with Maya she has "put it out there", so he has SOME idea of what she is after. But he is yet to know the Beyhadness of her love. Man will be scared when he finds out, or experience the darker shades of Maya.


Saanjh is acting so insecure and whiney that she is driving Arjun more and more away from herself. Arjun being "duffer" does not get why Saanjh is so hormonal. It is high time someone enlightens him even if it is not Saanjh. This cluelessness and this worst kept secret that only Arjun doesn't know is starting to grate!


There are a lot of anti Saanjh posts and I agree with some of them, though I try to avoid war zones. What I did not like was any member telling others what they can and cannot say. Saanjh's character has been shown as totally absorbed in Arjun, not having a life and just being his shadow. Their relationship has been highly co-dependent. Maybe that is why a lot of people find her grating. There have been no real boundaries in the Arjun and Saanjh friendship and that is the problem.

I am in this to watch the way the story goes. I know there will be a love story, but will it end the traditional way? I hope there is more to it. I did not tune in to watch a cliche and I hope they dont deliver that.



BTW, I am a huge Sherlock fan in general and Cumberbatch fan in particular!


Thanks! That's right, Arjun and Saanjh are still highly dependent on each other and cannot possibly do without each other in any capacity. The thing I do not really get is Maya gets the license to do anything and get away with it as she has a past to fall back on but Saanjh will be bashed left, right and center for having shown common human emotions. So, technically, it's saying because I have a traumatic past I can do as I please and not be accountable for my actions but any other person does not reserve the right to be just...human. That kind of logic is beyond my comprehension. 🤪 @bold - *High-five!* 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@ani all the 3 are imperfect and that is what I like about them also. And I would prefer the show keeps that imperfectness intact. I dont want that mahanta in any character.


Me too, me too!

Thanks!

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Good gracious!

Still in awe ... I'm bereft of words!😳☺️


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .annihilation.


IKR? You can't not be a Sherlock enthusiast once you read the books or watched the show/movies. 😎

I haven't seen the shows you mentioned but I have heard a lot about them. I think they're all a little too graphic and violent for my taste and thus I have never come around to watch them. However, I know what you're talking about. Writing there (as in shows from across the globe) and writing here, there's a lot of a difference between the two. Indian tv, sadly, isn't yet fully capable of writing characters shows like Dexter, Breaking bad or other such shows offer. So, we can't even begin to compare these shows with those because if you do, you'll never be able to enjoy any Indian tv show no matter how good it may be.

Having said that, I really do think Beyhadh's doing a fairly well. We actually have a show on air that promises to break through the cycle of regressive content on tv and shows potential to fulfil those promises. I'll agree when you say that they're banking on Jennifer's popularity and acting skills but I'd also say Maya's a well-written character. Of course, there are inconsistencies here and there but she's still good, that is until the TRP factor decides to butcher the characters or the show itself. My only issue at the moment with the characterization of all characters, particularly Maya would be that the show takes it too slow. They give us some high points, then some low points, the pace is never consistent and the momentum slows down time and again.

I think when you want your audience to sympathize or empathize with your 'grey' character, there has to be a credible back story and explanation as to why the character is the way it is. Such a character needs some quality, some reason, some justification in order for the audience to be tethered to them or they'd just become an evil antagonist/villain. I love that quote from BB's creator. Assuming I had seen the show, with Dexter, I'd exactly do what Vince said, 'go with the ride no matter how far it goes' but I'd never be able to empathize with him, that's a given. With Maya, I'd like to be able to ride along with her still being able to get why she did/does what she did/does.😳

PS I am too not on board with any of the ships at the moment 😆 but I do like Maya and Saanjh.


Have you seen Cinevista's Ek Hasina Thi? I only loved the anti-heroine leaning liberally towards the negative quadrant of the graph and rooted for her all along. The character was that of a high-profile mother of a rapist and her various attempts at thwarting the conviction of her son. She could go to any length to protect the welfare of her family and her status in the society and it was an intriguing show for the most part! That's why I fail to understand what went wrong with Beyhadh. I would have understood and rooted for Maya had she played the game ethically in order to achieve some greater good. But nah, I don't get why she fell in love firstly, and I definitely can't root for her modus operandi to acquire and possess the person she loves. This kind of love is detrimental and I don't think the makers have adequately justified her actions which is such a shame. Poor Saanjh gets hauled over the coals for relatively 100x less unconscionable actions like you've mentioned in your post😳

You definitely should watch BB and Dexter. They are very watchable if you've watched Sherlock!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@TM:

No Maya does not get a pass because of Bad past. But I think sometimes everything she does is boiled down to her dark past and dark character. Sometimes even she is just being human??

Even Saanjh's actions are human. That part is fine. But her hypocrisy in not being honest with Arjun and using her friendship to control his life is what I object to. I don't agree she has the "right" to tell Arjun what to do!! She acts like she is his wife and Arjun is cheating her. But even a wife does not tell her husband who he can talk to or spend time with. This is going overboard and I find such needy clingy behaviour really irritating.

When it comes to Maya, she has not had a normal childhood or life. So she will not act normally in love. She will try to hold on to the person so strongly she will just make them feel boxed. But here Saanjh is not acting much better?
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with mrdarcyfan. I don't think saanjh is crazy or even a psycho but she is clingy. Perhaps because she wants the best for arjun or that she recognizes the madness within maya but she is self righteous and horribly entitled. Just because they are friends and she loves him, she thinks she has the right to control who he is friends with and what he does with his free time. if you notice, saanjh has nothing to do other than keep tabs on arjun and berate him whenever he is with Maya. Arjun is not an 8 year old, he has his own mind so she needs to let him go. Like I said, all the adults should have intervened instead of encouraging her, it is highly possible that arjun won't feel the same way and fall for someone else. right now, it is like saanjh has no life or ambitions other than marrying arjun or telling him what to do. her clingy behaviour is irritating and more irritating are the parents for not reeling her back from the approaching disaster. Instead they keep hoping and giving her ideas.

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