Romantic? I think not. | 9th-14th dec.

Originally posted by: starasdf

Great Post!

Maya is a 100% deceiving Arjun and everyone but him can see it. Which is why I think that regardless of whether Arjun will accept her proposal or not, they are bound to break up at some point. Because like you said, this isn't real. Arjun does not know her, he sees what she shows him.

With all of that in mind, I too, like you don't find Maya-Arjun romantic. Even though in the moment it may seem like it is, but keeping the actual story in mind, it actually isn't. It's manipulation at its finest. I would feel deceived, heartbroken and angry if I were to fall in love like this. That being said, I have to admit they have great chemistry. But no, I don't see a future to it.

Like I've said before, Arjun's love is not going to help Maya in the long term. It is temporary happiness which will turn into darkness because she will be too caught up in trying to cage him like she has her mother. But Arjun being a free bird and Saanjh, she will find it extremely difficult to do so. And in this, she will cross lines which she may never have before.

What makes you think that she has no values and morals and rules at work (I mean apart from Arjun and Saanjh)? I am not too clear on this. But I have yet to watch today's and yesterday's episode if it is related. But do explain.

Yes, I think her position, her independence and her being a strong woman is woman empowerment. And no, one should not be happy about how she manipulates and controls Arjun. It is not a good sign for a relationship. Though for the purposes of the show and the storyline, I like it because it reinforces her character. It's also funny sometimes because Arjun has no idea.

I think Arjun-Maya are on the right track for the show with their bond growing. Also, Saanjh may be sidelined for a little bit, or she'll be shown constantly yelling at Arjun till Arjun accepts Maya's proposal. I think then the real battle will begin where Saanjh too will get her hands dirty but to help Arjun,

Saanjh needs to stop running blind, she needs a new approach because obviously her current one is not working.

I for some reason cannot bring myself to care about Arjun. I really try, I try to get in his head. Think of his POV but I just can't. Ever since he didn't even question Maya's intentions of his promotions, his character isn't real enough anymore. I mean one may brush those thoughts aside, but at least they had them. I hope that CVs work on his character.

I'm not sure if you've seen many of my posts around, but I'm also a minority here so you're not alone. And do keep making your posts, don't feel that because your opinion seems to be a minority one, you need to be silent. Your posts are well thought out so even if there is a disagreements, it leads to great and interesting discussions.

Star

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

Warning : HERE.

'No love is conditional. If love is conditional, it's just some sort of manipulation masquerading as love'. - Donald Miller.

"Just because something isn't a lie does not mean that it isn't deceptive. A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction." - Cirss Jami.

"There are those whose primary ability is to spin wheels of manipulation. It is their second skin and without these spinning wheels, they simply do not know how to function. They are like toys on wheels of manipulation and control. If you remove one of the wheels, they'll never be able to feel secure, be whole." - C. JoyBell C.

""Ale: Are you manipulating me again?

T.C.: Try not to fall for it. I dare you." - Steven Kluger.

"Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies".-Dorothy Allison.

Do those quotes remind you of a particular someone or a particular relationship? Does a memory of a person or an incident instantly pop up in your head like it does in mine? Do they make any sense to you like it does to me? Perhaps. I'm certain now, going by the forum's status that I belong to the minority, may be even a community that doesn't even exist. The community that doesn't find anything romantic about the relationship Arjun and Maya share at the moment or are going to share in the future.
Such amazing lines⭐️

The problem? The pretence. The lies. The deceit. A relationship whether romantic or platonic does not survive the test of waters when it's foundation is laid upon lies and deceit. I do not find anything that Maya does in her pursuit of Arjun's love romantic. I'm sorry, I just don't. 😳 While I do understand where those values, traits, techniques, tendencies and urges stem from, I just cannot watch the two in one frame and go heart eyes. I'm mostly conflicted when watching their scenes because I wasn't expecting that. Is that really the Maya I signed up for? Um, no. Is that the kind of relationship where I find goals? Hell, no. The only emotion that washes all over me is, repulsion. Distaste, that's what it is. The only feels/vibes it gives me is, wrong. Not 'aww'.

Im also in minority I guess as I dont find maya arjun scenes aww instead make me feel like banging my head to wall🥱... saanj , vandu and saajun scenes are the reason Im still stuck to show...



Without beating around the bush much and to put it simply, that's emotional and mental manipulation at it's best. Manipulation when fuelled with good intent can be a blessing but when used with deceit is a beginning of a calamity. Maya is a highly skilled manipulator and she's been manipulating Arjun to fall in love with her. Lets say, you fell in love with this seemingly gorgeous person with a heart of a gold. But one fine day, you realise that you didn't 'fall' in love with him/her, you were in reality 'made to fall' in love with them, that you practically made no choice because it wasn't ever given to you to begin with, that all this while of your courtship/relationship, you were basically ployed. I'd personally feel like...shit. 😳

Awesome lines about manipulation👏.. I would also feel lik B***shit if I found the way I have fallen for manipulative person and realised it that relation started with lie no matter how handsome or wealthy the person is.



Jhanvi : 'Pyaar khareeda nahi ja sakta, Maya'.

Maya : 'Jaanti hoon, main sirf Arjun ki khushiyan khareed rahi hoon. Pyaar usse apne aap ho jayega' or the more recent 'kaha tha na, mujhse bach kar kahin nahi ja sakte'.

saanj was correct to say that he only sees outer things and gave chand shine example... Arjun is like that he can't go beyond outer things and think what's actually happening around him... seeing how maya have hidden Arjun visit to her house from her loving mom(till now I didn't know why she has hidden from her) I don't have hopes that she will set her heart inside out to Arjun ... maya love is like that how much ever she loves a person whether mom or Arjun she has restrictions and can't give herself completely... in love we have to surrender ourself to other.

I don't even think we need to go beyond Maya to understand her or her relationships. She says and does it all. There's no need of Saanjh, Vandana, a pandit or any other external agency to rub that into your face. Albeit, it turns out she was testing Arjun's mettle when she sent all those packages to him. There's always an argument put forth on the forum with regards to what Saanjh can or should do and how she does not reserve any sort of right over Arjun. Understandable, given, noted. Then, what right does Maya have to fool Arjun, manipulate him, alter his thinking/perception, make him question his conviction, test him? But somehow Maya can do all of it and should do all of it. Because? She's Maya Mehrotra. So, acceptable. That's hypocrisy, my friends. The rules should be applicable to one and all.

Exactly who has given right for maya to play with him and his feelings and decide whether he passed her test or not. He is a person not a thing to test it. If she can do such things then Vandana and Saanj also have rights to ask him about her and why cant she be tested for once. In future if vandu or saanj tried to test maya I hope everyone supports them like maya



What I loved about her sans everything else (her past, people in her life, all of it) was how I believed that Maya does value certain ethics, certain values, certain principles that are imbibed in her. Turns out I too got deceived into believing something that wasn't ever there. Until now, the only ground where she rules was her home or so I thought. Fashion in the City is no different. It's not a workplace, it's a just another kingdom where Maya is the Queen. No real world rules, codes or ethics apply there as well. Promote, demote, hire and fire as per your mood, preferences and likes. 🤡

Now Dont even ask me about this so called company and its rules.. I was shocked to see whether any such company exists or any business person would be like maya whose mood swings change every minute. Being young succesfull business person I expected lot from her professionally but she became minus from zero... who will fire their employees like that. Is this how cvs wanted to show that she reached big position by doing all these stuff..🤢being in love she can feel jealousy or possessive but the way she plans to torture people like making saanj wait for hours(if it's some other I doubt she would do that) and giving Arjun leave and make him to run after her and allowing him for lunch with saanj and makes sure he doesn't go.. kind of villain smile she gives seeing Arjun saanj fight.. So where is her professionalism.? Arjun who said in couple of episodes back that maya dont mix up personal and professional life is going to get big jhatka soon...

This ain't women empowerment. Please don't call it that and confuse harassment with empowerment. You know what's women empowerment? An independent successful woman, a woman equally capable and competent as her counterparts, a woman who does not bend to accommodate unreasonable societal demands, a woman can both efficiently and effortlessly manage both work and home, etc. Those are the qualities in Maya that reflect the sense of empowerment. What she does to gain love, what she does to her relationships, how she deals with people personally (or even professionally for that matter) is not empowerment by any means. If it's anything, it's enslavement.

Ofcourse this is harrasment. Just imagine if a male employee behaves like that with female in any company the way she is asking him to kiss,feeding him,calling him in night and saying why would she call any guy at this time ,he would be screwed in harrasment cases. But here its maya mehrotra and is lady so she can do anythng to the people in her company. Just bcz Arjun is obeying evrythng whatever she says doesnt mean maya is right.


Although, I do love watching that Maya where her inner beautiful, benign, innocent self peeks out, whether it's the genuine smile that reaches the corners of her eyes or child-like anticipation to try out new stuff or moments where she's not her damaged and toxic-self. THAT, that is beautiful to watch! ❤️ The show seems to be slowly losing its grip. They seriously need to focus on revealing's Maya's past, building up Arjun and Saanjh's characters, give Arjun and Saanjh's family other things to do apart from being the 'symbolism batane aur samjhane wale' characters, let Ashwin do the job he's limping around for, give Jhanvi some needed guts and so on. 'Cause rinse and repeat cycle of Maya-Arjun-Saanjh louuu triangle is getting slightly mundane to watch.

I only loved maya smile bcz of jenny has cute smile. apart from that this character is neither can be considered as role model nor can be loved bcz of her manipulative or controlling nature. She is not even straight forward in her actions. evrythng she does is like backstabbing a person. Infront of Arjun she is happliy smiling for saajun frnship but we know how she burns bcz of that. She gave leave to arjun to spend with family and saw saanj and made sure he run back to her office and she allowed for saajun lunch but made sure he doesnt go. So in which angle should I like this character either professionally or personality?


PS 'Slightly' was meant as sarcasm.

PPS Rida, thank you for assuring me that I'm not insane 🤣 and that I'm not only the one who feels the way I do. 🤗 This one's dedicated to you.

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

Warning : HERE.

'No love is conditional. If love is conditional, it's just some sort of manipulation masquerading as love'. - Donald Miller.

"Just because something isn't a lie does not mean that it isn't deceptive. A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction." - Cirss Jami.

"There are those whose primary ability is to spin wheels of manipulation. It is their second skin and without these spinning wheels, they simply do not know how to function. They are like toys on wheels of manipulation and control. If you remove one of the wheels, they'll never be able to feel secure, be whole." - C. JoyBell C.

""Ale: Are you manipulating me again?

T.C.: Try not to fall for it. I dare you." - Steven Kluger.

"Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies".-Dorothy Allison.

Do those quotes remind you of a particular someone or a particular relationship? Does a memory of a person or an incident instantly pop up in your head like it does in mine? Do they make any sense to you like it does to me? Perhaps. I'm certain now, going by the forum's status that I belong to the minority, may be even a community that doesn't even exist. The community that doesn't find anything romantic about the relationship Arjun and Maya share at the moment or are going to share in the future.

The problem? The pretence. The lies. The deceit. A relationship whether romantic or platonic does not survive the test of waters when it's foundation is laid upon lies and deceit. I do not find anything that Maya does in her pursuit of Arjun's love romantic. I'm sorry, I just don't. 😳 While I do understand where those values, traits, techniques, tendencies and urges stem from, I just cannot watch the two in one frame and go heart eyes. I'm mostly conflicted when watching their scenes because I wasn't expecting that. Is that really the Maya I signed up for? Um, no. Is that the kind of relationship where I find goals? Hell, no. The only emotion that washes all over me is, repulsion. Distaste, that's what it is. The only feels/vibes it gives me is, wrong. Not 'aww'.

Without beating around the bush much and to put it simply, that's emotional and mental manipulation at it's best. Manipulation when fuelled with good intent can be a blessing but when used with deceit is a beginning of a calamity. Maya is a highly skilled manipulator and she's been manipulating Arjun to fall in love with her. Lets say, you fell in love with this seemingly gorgeous person with a heart of a gold. But one fine day, you realise that you didn't 'fall' in love with him/her, you were in reality 'made to fall' in love with them, that you practically made no choice because it wasn't ever given to you to begin with, that all this while of your courtship/relationship, you were basically ployed. I'd personally feel like...shit. 😳

Jhanvi : 'Pyaar khareeda nahi ja sakta, Maya'.

Maya : 'Jaanti hoon, main sirf Arjun ki khushiyan khareed rahi hoon. Pyaar usse apne aap ho jayega' or the more recent 'kaha tha na, mujhse bach kar kahin nahi ja sakte'.

I don't even think we need to go beyond Maya to understand her or her relationships. She says and does it all. There's no need of Saanjh, Vandana, a pandit or any other external agency to rub that into your face. Albeit, it turns out she was testing Arjun's mettle when she sent all those packages to him. There's always an argument put forth on the forum with regards to what Saanjh can or should do and how she does not reserve any sort of right over Arjun. Understandable, given, noted. Then, what right does Maya have to fool Arjun, manipulate him, alter his thinking/perception, make him question his conviction, test him? But somehow Maya can do all of it and should do all of it. Because? She's Maya Mehrotra. So, acceptable. That's hypocrisy, my friends. The rules should be applicable to one and all.

What I loved about her sans everything else (her past, people in her life, all of it) was how I believed that Maya does value certain ethics, certain values, certain principles that are imbibed in her. Turns out I too got deceived into believing something that wasn't ever there. Until now, the only ground where she rules was her home or so I thought. Fashion in the City is no different. It's not a workplace, it's a just another kingdom where Maya is the Queen. No real world rules, codes or ethics apply there as well. Promote, demote, hire and fire as per your mood, preferences and likes. 🤡

This ain't women empowerment. Please don't call it that and confuse harassment with empowerment. You know what's women empowerment? An independent successful woman, a woman equally capable and competent as her counterparts, a woman who does not bend to accommodate unreasonable societal demands, a woman can both efficiently and effortlessly manage both work and home, etc. Those are the qualities in Maya that reflect the sense of empowerment. What she does to gain love, what she does to her relationships, how she deals with people personally (or even professionally for that matter) is not empowerment by any means. If it's anything, it's enslavement.

Although, I do love watching that Maya where her inner beautiful, benign, innocent self peeks out, whether it's the genuine smile that reaches the corners of her eyes or child-like anticipation to try out new stuff or moments where she's not her damaged and toxic-self. THAT, that is beautiful to watch! ❤️ The show seems to be slowly losing its grip. They seriously need to focus on revealing's Maya's past, building up Arjun and Saanjh's characters, give Arjun and Saanjh's family other things to do apart from being the 'symbolism batane aur samjhane wale' characters, let Ashwin do the job he's limping around for, give Jhanvi some needed guts and so on. 'Cause rinse and repeat cycle of Maya-Arjun-Saanjh louuu triangle is getting slightly mundane to watch.

PS 'Slightly' was meant as sarcasm.

PPS Rida, thank you for assuring me that I'm not insane 🤣 and that I'm not only the one who feels the way I do. 🤗 This one's dedicated to you.

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

I'll be back with replies later guys. Don't think can watch today's episode on air time either. Be back later!