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Posted: 10 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: -Amri-

Kudos to the topic maker for making a balanced post and providing scope for healthy debates and dissensions. I urge all fandoms to write in so that we can understand each other's points of view better.


Thanks Amu (can I call you that?) 😳 I wanted to keep the post unbiased and as balanced as possible and I'm glad you recognized that.😃

@red: main motive for the thread, all are welcome 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: SaJanLuv14


Thanks Amu (can I call you that?) 😳 I wanted to keep the post unbiased and as balanced as possible and I'm glad you recognized that.😃

@red: main motive for the thread, all are welcome 😃



Of course😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krupali

For me love is that...

  • which does not hold u back bt let u spread ur wings and let u be ur true self 😊
  • being possessive and protecting ur partner is one thing bt one should be careful that it wont chain down him/her.. possessiveness should also know when and how to 'let go'..
  • being a girl, I would not like if anyone treats me like a thing that can be possessed or owned... I don't want any 'special' treatment as a girl or woman BUT at least treat me as a human being and not as ur 'personal property'!
  • it may sound too dramatic (😛) bt that's what I also believe.. if u feel thrilled at the touch of a man, move on frm there till u find the one whose touch can make u feel warm and at comfort...
(..and for the last point I may slightly disagree wid u.. Love is not mere physical attraction bt care and respect for each other and that willingness to do sacrifices for each other's sake.. the best type of love in this world is that ur family has for you.. and that is made up of these care, comfort and sacrifices only 😊)

This is jst my take, on how I see love and what it is for me... no offence! 😊


Loved your opinion Krups 😳 so happy to see a praja/rosal fan here! I do agree with your points and your last point isn't dramatic at all. There are some things in love that words can't explain.

As for my last point the reason why I said it's much more than comfort, sacrifice, and care because love requires necessity and hard work. You make an effort to fix things whenever problems arise and in love you want to be with that person hence necessity.

Priyom cares for Poonam, he brings her a sense of relief (comfort), and sacrificed his relationship with
Laakhan to protect her (even ready to give her life) yet he doesn't love her. Isn't that true? Like I said earlier as well, it may be a level of love but they haven't hit it off yet.

Now from today's episode it shows Priyom by his own will wants to be with her, it's definitely a start.

As for our opinions we all learn from one another and I may not be completely right or wrong. We all learn in the end by our experiences. 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mai_manmauji

Well dear aap ne bola hai ye fictional show hai aur hume CV se jyada sensible hona chahiye,iss hisaab se toh kisi character or pair ko like karne k bajaya hume show hi dekhna band kar dena chahiye kyoki show me bahut kuch nonsense hai and I am 100% sure ki aage aur dikhya jaayega 😡 rahi baat meri toh mai kewal entertainment k khatir show dekhti hoon aur kya hone se show aur entertaining hoga,ussi ki fikar karti hoon,mai naa laakham shipper hoon aur naa prinam shipper,jo entertaining ho mai ussi k favour me rahoongi 😊 mughe bass itna kahna hai ki kisi particular character &pair ko like karne ka ye matlab bilkul nahi hai ki aap real life me bhi aisi hi cheezo k supporter hain...saalo pahle SRK ko negative role ne hi popular kar diya,sallu ki nonsense movies superhit hoti hain...so iska ye matlab thodi hai ki wo movie dekhne aur like karne waale onscreen dikhayi gayi baato ko bhi real life me support karte hain...meri najar me laakham or prinam shipper hona koi galat baat nahi hai aur naa uske liye koi justification dena jaroori hai,Jo cheez pasnd hai toh bass hai,usme kya galat hai 😕...galat tab hoga hai jab kuch log fictional characters n pair ko lekar other characters and pair ko like karne waalo k saath ladna-ghagrna aur gaali dena suru kar dete hain ...its my POV..,I hope mai kisi ko hurt nhi kar rahi apne reply se 😊😊


Wah kya response hai 😃😆 Mai (aap ka naam mein nahi janti), app ne toh Badi Amma se zydaa gyaan aur maturity aaj dekadi. Aap ka akhri saval valid hai. Fandoms se ladna-ghargrna aur gaali dena bohot buri baat hai.

@bold: so true, wish more Indian cinema fans saw that.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandrima02

Though going by the very recent developments, I feel that this series as well has become another enormous potential going down the drains; but a very good topic. As I've got experiences even worse than this, I'm still sticking to this. But seems my days are indeed going to become numbered. Unfortunate, as this is the only series I follow now-a-days.

In my opinion, Poonam should be concentrating on her studies and the prospect of her seemingly bright future career right now; instead of banging her head on the wall about which Thakur boy she should marry. Once she becomes self-sustaining, should choose an equally worthy guy. But it seems impossible right now due to the presence of people like Manchita, Lakhan, Dolte etc. around. In a nut shell, she should marry someone outside this Thakur clan to get a sane & peaceful life of her own.

Logically & morally, either getting killed or going to jail for life (at the end of the series) should be Lakhan Thakur's ideal fate. Priyom Thakur may get the throne at the end, but definitely should not get the girl; which should be his lesson of life. But logic has been thrown beyond the event horizon of a black-hole; so recovery is simply impossible. If we want to continue we should only expect absurdity.


This series has definitely hit the pressure of TRPs. I think because this is a daily show it's becoming harder for the CVs to make more tracks to keep the show going. I wish they planned it better so that within a finite number of episodes we had an amazing story. Though I wanted Poonam-Priyom romance I definitely wanted it to be more passionate, intense, and somewhat dangerous style 😆 It was too boy next door type. Badii Devrani isn't a terrible show either, I think you would enjoy it. You will have to get through the saas-bahu part but since it's a prime time show it's a given.

@bold: completely agree. As much as I don't enjoy leaps this show is in a need of one. Where Poonam disappears and goes to study, Laakhan is banned from Begusarai and Priyom along with his family takes Begusarai on another level. They all come back with new POVs to take their lives and Begusarai on the next level.

How do you think they would have shown Poonam's education track and how long would they have shown that. I don't think it's a matter of showing the right tracks anymore, the CVs want to keep this show going as long as possible (at least a year.)

I agree for Laakhan but not for Priyom. I would want to see Guddi getting the Throne and watch the brothers taking care of the business and being her support system. I would love to see Poonam take forward the education of Begusarai forward and be Guddi's right hand.

Wishful thinking.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-

The platonic way in which Priyom persistently sees Poonam irks me.



But I do think that with this track, when he saw her loyalty and love towards him and his family, he was extremely touched. Especially when she said that she'd die over living with Lakhan. And the trust she reposes in him.


The writers of "Begusarai" seem to be going on the right path. I've seen my share of shows depicting angry young men and their submissive partners. It gets old fast. Just my opinion.


The writers of these shows do not know how to write grey characters. They show all forms of abuse ranging from physical to the psychological and emotional, to delineate the hero's "love" for the heroine.


I do not agree with this at all. My conception of love encompasses trust, understanding, mutual affection, companionship, the ability to recognize your partner's desires, and to give them support even if you are apprehensive about a particular decision of theirs (of course, if they're making a mistake, you should intervene), a certain degree of compromise (because perfection is impossible, there's nothing called an ideal person), and most importantly a feeling of serenity and the simple joys of leading and sharing a life together.


I would also say that romantic love as opposed to platonic love definitely needs a spark of physical intimacy. There's nothing wrong in being attracted to your partner and desiring them. It's very healthy, that your emotional bond is strengthened by your physical attraction and vice-versa.



All that Priyom and Poonam need is that "spark" to get them going. And for Priyom to leave his promiscuity behind, of course. Otherwise, most of the ingredients are already present.



And yeah, Poonam and Lakhan are a BIG no-no for me. Just my opinion, and no offence intended to fans of this ship, I swear. I have personally seen some of my friends struggle with partners like these who are extremely possessive and suffocating, treating them like dirt and monitoring their every move. At the end, the women end up feeling afraid and threatened...love toh door ki baat hai. I myself have been stalked once for a short while, and I was extremely afraid for my life and my dignity. Thankfully, all ended well as I told my parents. But that overwhelming sense of fear, that I will never forget. You certainly don't feel wooed as they show in the movies, I'll tell you that😊




If you enjoy grey characters I would suggest that you watch Dream Girl on Life Ok. Though it gets frustrating time to time the character of Ayesha is definitely the best I've seen of a grey character. It amazes me what she does to keep her title and her life "perfect."

Abuse does not equal to love or entertainment in my opinion. The day such abuses and visuals get turned into entertainment that is when the audiences is getting sick. How can anyone enjoy watching someone innocent being hurt unnecessarily? Whether that's a man, woman, child or animal, the base line is if they are innocent there is not reason to hurt them.

Another point, violence is not the answer to everything. Though some don't know better, in this show Laakhan was told repeatedly hurting Poonam is wrong (or any woman or family) and that he should earn respect. Laakhan alone is not to blame for his deeds, it has to both with Rekha's mental abuse to her husband and forgiving nature towards Laakhan (let's not forget her greediness/cunningness) and BT's silence.

Loved your last two points and it's definitely getting there, I heard the precap today was good. But Poonam going to Laakhan is going to mess things up.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaJanLuv14


Loved your opinion Krups 😳 so happy to see a praja/rosal fan here! I do agree with your points and your last point isn't dramatic at all. There are some things in love that words can't explain.

As for my last point the reason why I said it's much more than comfort, sacrifice, and care because love requires necessity and hard work. You make an effort to fix things whenever problems arise and in love you want to be with that person hence necessity.

Priyom cares for Poonam, he brings her a sense of relief (comfort), and sacrificed his relationship with
Laakhan to protect her (even ready to give her life) yet he doesn't love her. Isn't that true? Like I said earlier as well, it may be a level of love but they haven't hit it off yet.

Now from today's episode it shows Priyom by his own will wants to be with her, it's definitely a start.

As for our opinions we all learn from one another and I may not be completely right or wrong. We all learn in the end by our experiences. 😃

@bold... I was thinking that only that I'm missing out on smthng! got it now!! 😛
PrAja factor.. 😉 me too, glad to see u here dear! 😳 😃

*RES* for the rest!.. as m too sleepy to type r8 now!! 😛 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hershey dear, first of all I'm officially off from today since what would be served next is simply beyond my digestive system; but would continue to visit the forum as I get to interact with so many wonderful people. Anyways, regarding "Badi Devrani", what I've heard is that the girl is having an MBA degree but now instead of using her qualifications she is trying hard to become an ideal bahu !! Sorry, again not my cup of tea.

While starting with this series, I actually imagined that it would be a finite one, with a logical story-line and well-sketched characters. My bad !!

Regarding Guddi getting the throne, Poonam becoming highly educated & self-sustaining and in turn helping the girls of Begusarai to become educated & self-sustaining themselves; even if we shout on the highest pitches of our voices, now I truly believe that these are too radical as concepts to be portrayed to fetch TRP.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandrima02

Abusive relationships invariably lead to psychological problems, even suicides later on and if it's a forced one then nothing more to say. I have seen real life example and that too to the extreme. So I never can tolerate such things, even it's being portrayed in reel life. Unfortunately the recent trend of fictional series' is this concept only !!!

Anyways, although a few ingredients are indeed present in P/P relationship but, as @Amri has pointed out, the intensity & the spark are missing. Since Poonam is going sacrifice herself to land into Lakhan's kitty, I see no whatsoever scope of that. Or may be, on the contrary, this incident would be acting as the spark. But won't that be too late !!!! May be, the creatives are planning to serve the audiences with an abusive hate saga + a tragic love saga !!!


It's like a chain reaction that doesn't have a stop and loving someone unconditionally and bearing all their abuse isn't going to cut either. Today we got an interview was Daljeet Kaur one of winners from Nach Baliye, look at what being quiet did for her.

People need to find another source of entertainment if they find such concepts entertaining.

If CVs are planning to go the tragic way then I'm saying goodbye to the show. This is not what I signed up for.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krupali

@bold... I was thinking that only that I'm missing out on smthng! got it now!! 😛
PrAja factor.. 😉 me too, glad to see u here dear! 😳 😃

*RES* for the rest!.. as m too sleepy to type r8 now!! 😛 😆


😆 yes yes! no problem, will wait for your reply!

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