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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sg08

Well, if you want reality in the show, thats what reality is like in rural India....so in that way they are not justifying or glorifying anything, they are showing it the way it is.

How convenient to show reality when it suits them and also show a 50 + man roll on the hay with his 19 year old wife, as though that has anything to do with reality.
If you want to be real, why not in every aspect? If not, then why only in those areas which portray the women in poor light? Why not be bold and show a strong woman or a remorseful maalik for a change?
There is a lot of myth about rural India, by the way. Women in many parts of rural India, especially in the south and the west have come a long way. There are women Sarpanchs and many women self help groups. So it is not all about servitude and subjucation of women there.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

How convenient to show reality when it suits them and also show a 50 + man roll on the hay with his 19 year old wife, as though that has anything to do with reality.
If you want to be real, why not in every aspect? If not, then why only in those areas which portray the women in poor light? Why not be bold and show a strong woman or a remorseful maalik for a change?
There is a lot of myth about rural India, by the way. Women in many parts of rural India, especially in the south and the west have come a long way. There are women Sarpanchs and many women self help groups. So it is not all about servitude and subjucation of women there.


I agree that the location of the SR could have been better.....not the best move by the CVs.......but they have done worse in the past.

As for women in power in rural India, there are many examples of these same women who are nothing but puppets in the hands of the men who actually control the power. The was actually a woman CM from one of the eastern states and I actually saw her in an impromptu interview where she was repeating everything her husband was asking her to say in the background. Not to denigrate anybody or imply that there aren't any real women leaders in the rural areas but they are not the norm. Most of the women in rural areas are still submissive by nature as they are taught to be. Anyways, this show is not the kind of show that is going to deal with an issue such as woman empowerment........it is just for pure entertainment and I would just be thankful if they don't suddenly change the main theme of the story and start changing and ruining the characters.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sg08

As for women in power in rural India, there are many examples of these same women who are nothing but puppets in the hands of the men who actually control the power. The was actually a woman CM from one of the eastern states and I actually saw her in an impromptu interview where she was repeating everything her husband was asking her to say in the background. Not to denigrate anybody or imply that there aren't any real women leaders in the rural areas but they are not the norm. Most of the women in rural areas are still submissive by nature as they are taught to be. Anyways, this show is not the kind of show that is going to deal with an issue such as woman empowerment........it is just for pure entertainment and I would just be thankful if they don't suddenly change the main theme of the story and start changing and ruining the characters.

Is it necessary to only show the majority view? I am not feeling entertained seeing a weeping Santu fall at her maalik's feet for a supposed wrong she has done. I am not feeling entertained seeing a Maalik smirk at the rightful outburst of his wife. I am not asking for a social statement. All I want to see is some sensible dealings from both the leads. I guess that is too much to ask. So I am going to focus only on Kranti for now till they do something about this age, caste, social divide that still remain unbridged between Sanraj.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

Is it necessary to only show the majority view? I am not feeling entertained seeing a weeping Santu fall at her maalik's feet for a supposed wrong she has done. I am not feeling entertained seeing a Maalik smirk at the rightful outburst of his wife. I am not asking for a social statement. All I want to see is some sensible dealings from both the leads. I guess that is too much to ask. So I am going to focus only on Kranti for now till they do something about this age, caste, social divide that still remain unbridged between Sanraj.


Yes, it probably is because ultimately this is just a TRP game......the more people watch and like the show, more chances that the show will stick around and not be cancelled. I don't like Santu crying all the time or DM handing out punishments to her either, but at the same time I don't think they can drastically change the characters they have established so far and that has made the show popular, that would be detrimental to the show. I don't think he was smirking at her......there was initial surprise, then he was thoughtful, there was admiration, at least thats the way I saw it.......her outburst made him rethink his punishment and retract it, doubt he would have done that if he was just amused. Hopefully, they have great tracks for SanRaj in upcoming episodes because I don't care how many characters they introduce in the show, if not for SanRaj I wouldn't be watching it, Kranti or no Kranti.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

Is it necessary to only show the majority view? I am not feeling entertained seeing a weeping Santu fall at her maalik's feet for a supposed wrong she has done. I am not feeling entertained seeing a Maalik smirk at the rightful outburst of his wife. I am not asking for a social statement. All I want to see is some sensible dealings from both the leads. I guess that is too much to ask. So I am going to focus only on Kranti for now till they do something about this age, caste, social divide that still remain unbridged between Sanraj.

I completely agree with Shalu and you Opti. Sometimes, there is reality in both faces of a coin. Talking about rural myths, when i was compulsorily posted to a rural place as part of my training it was an eye opener for me in every sense of the word. Right from contraception, marriage, female foeticide, domestic violence, adultery, and the list is endless. My students tell me it is not very different even today. However, i do agree that glorification of some trends in the name of entertainment becomes difficult to digest after a while.
"Well whats good for the goose is never good enough for the gander" and "even in a democracy, some people are more equal than others".
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Posted: 15 years ago
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It like George Orwell Animal Farm
All animals are equals but some are more equal than others
Let give them to rectify their mistakes
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sg08

Yes, it probably is because ultimately this is just a TRP game......the more people watch and like the show, more chances that the show will stick around and not be cancelled. I don't like Santu crying all the time or DM handing out punishments to her either, but at the same time I don't think they can drastically change the characters they have established so far and that has made the show popular, that would be detrimental to the show. I don't think he was smirking at her......there was initial surprise, then he was thoughtful, there was admiration, at least thats the way I saw it.......her outburst made him rethink his punishment and retract it, doubt he would have done that if he was just amused. Hopefully, they have great tracks for SanRaj in upcoming episodes because I don't care how many characters they introduce in the show, if not for SanRaj I wouldn't be watching it, Kranti or no Kranti.

Well, each of us have our own reasons for watching the show. I would be pretty tired if I only see the story focus on Sanraj or for that matter any other couple all the time. The more, the merrier and definitely more the diversity. I wouldn't agree that the show is popular because of Santu's endless crying or DM's dhands. The show has a strong script which is why it is popular. I am not asking them to change the characters drastically but is it asking for too much for DM to apologise atleast after Santu presented her view point? Afterall, he has done so in the past. The only difference then was that he knew what he was meting out to Santu, still went ahead and did it and later apologised for it. Here he turned a blind eye to her pain and only saw his view point till she opened her mouth against the injustice. He now understands he is wrong but did he even show a semblance of remorse after that? No, he did not.
Characters in any show (atleast the main leads) are supposed to develop into improvements over what they were to start with. If they dont, they are pretty much stunted. Improvement comes with time and circumstances. Here was a golden opportunity for DM to give up a little of his ego and be man enough to admit he was unfair to his wife. Does he take that opportunity. No, he does not. So just as DM metes out his punishments for the supposed wrongs of others, I, as a viewer would not make peace with him until he makes up big time later.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chalia

I completely agree with Shalu and you Opti. Sometimes, there is reality in both faces of a coin. Talking about rural myths, when i was compulsorily posted to a rural place as part of my training it was an eye opener for me in every sense of the word. Right from contraception, marriage, female foeticide, domestic violence, adultery, and the list is endless. My students tell me it is not very different even today. However, i do agree that glorification of some trends in the name of entertainment becomes difficult to digest after a while.
"Well whats good for the goose is never good enough for the gander" and "even in a democracy, some people are more equal than others".

Are these social evils not prevalent in the so called urban areas? Domestic violence exists even among the elite and the educated. There was this case about a woman IAS officer who was repeadly beaten up before she put her foot down and lodged a case against her husband. Female foeticide is there is many big cities and many practising them are the rich and educated. Adultery is more or less universal, I think. no rural urban divide there.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: fuzzyface

It like George Orwell Animal Farm

All animals are equals but some are more equal than others
Let give them to rectify their mistakes

Are you calling DM a pig, fuzzy. He is definitely pig headed.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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why not I have called him worse
he is a pighead coz his pride preceeds him even Baa said it to his face

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