Worst track for Nandini - Page 4

Created

Last reply

Replies

79

Views

8k

Users

20

Likes

178

Frequent Posters

SPuja thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#31
QUOTE=Missesha]Personally, I have enjoyed watching BV and all it's themes around Bal-vivah / traditions upto 2012.

Ja-An story was nicely done in my opinion. On watching Anandi as BV; for the first time I came to know (or rather felt) the plight of Balika Vadhu. I realised that even if you have supportive in-laws and husband (just your age), bal vivah snatches away a lot from you and that is why Bal Vivah is wrong.

Ja-An story had both light moments as well as intense moments, and yet it brought out so many facets of a what a child (both boy and girl) goes through in order to survive this relationship which is meaningless to them.

Ja-An break up was not just due to adultery but also due to bal-vivah and it's associated upbringing. It was the case where the boy was conditioned to get anything / everything he wanted as his right, while the girl was conditioned to accept anything / everything as her fate, because she is a beendni.

So the reason why Jagya was weak (or chose a short-cut) when it came to handling his relationship with both A & G, is that, he was always used to 'getting away' with what he wanted.Dsa never allowed him to feel for Anandi (his bride) as a woman with emotions / hopes / expectations. Dsa always conditioned J to think that Anandi is nearly a 'tool' that J can use as per his convenience.

So going by the same conditions, J thought that if he brings in G, everyone will accept her and throw A out.

That did not happen, and that's when everyone, particularly DSa felt like questioning their age old traditions, practices, beliefs and thought processes.

------

However, Ja-An is done and dusted. That story had lot of charm and CVs managed to give us various angles of that story in 4 years (2008 -12), before it came to a conclusion.

The next phase started with AnSh marriage and later JaGan marriage, where in Jagya and Anandi's stories were meant to take different paths. Their stories were now comparable to any normal couples' stories who were well-educated and financially well to do, belonging to good families.

But CVs started failing to manage that phase and they are at it's worse now with Nandini as BV.

I don't think this phase will get an any upliftment. Viewers may watch this show out of loyalty or curiosity, but the magic is gone.

@red - this happens in Indian patriarchal society everyday - conditioning of boys and girls are like this - even when they are living with their parents and no bal-vivah is involved. This happens in siblings where the girl is taught to be submissive and boys become brat due to pampering.

@blue - this happens in Indian patriarchal society where the marriage was done in adult stage. Even adult wife has to face this - so it did not seem to be a fall-out of bal-vivah expressly.
anshurg5 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: SPuja

QUOTE=Missesha]Personally, I have enjoyed watching BV and all it's themes around Bal-vivah / traditions upto 2012.


Ja-An story was nicely done in my opinion. On watching Anandi as BV; for the first time I came to know (or rather felt) the plight of Balika Vadhu. I realised that even if you have supportive in-laws and husband (just your age), bal vivah snatches away a lot from you and that is why Bal Vivah is wrong.

Ja-An story had both light moments as well as intense moments, and yet it brought out so many facets of a what a child (both boy and girl) goes through in order to survive this relationship which is meaningless to them.

Ja-An break up was not just due to adultery but also due to bal-vivah and it's associated upbringing. It was the case where the boy was conditioned to get anything / everything he wanted as his right, while the girl was conditioned to accept anything / everything as her fate, because she is a beendni.

So the reason why Jagya was weak (or chose a short-cut) when it came to handling his relationship with both A & G, is that, he was always used to 'getting away' with what he wanted.Dsa never allowed him to feel for Anandi (his bride) as a woman with emotions / hopes / expectations. Dsa always conditioned J to think that Anandi is nearly a 'tool' that J can use as per his convenience.

So going by the same conditions, J thought that if he brings in G, everyone will accept her and throw A out.

That did not happen, and that's when everyone, particularly DSa felt like questioning their age old traditions, practices, beliefs and thought processes.

------

However, Ja-An is done and dusted. That story had lot of charm and CVs managed to give us various angles of that story in 4 years (2008 -12), before it came to a conclusion.

The next phase started with AnSh marriage and later JaGan marriage, where in Jagya and Anandi's stories were meant to take different paths. Their stories were now comparable to any normal couples' stories who were well-educated and financially well to do, belonging to good families.

But CVs started failing to manage that phase and they are at it's worse now with Nandini as BV.

I don't think this phase will get an any upliftment. Viewers may watch this show out of loyalty or curiosity, but the magic is gone.


@red - this happens in Indian patriarchal society everyday - conditioning of boys and girls are like this - even when they are living with their parents and no bal-vivah is involved. This happens in siblings where the girl is taught to be submissive and boys become brat due to pampering.

@blue - this happens in Indian patriarchal society where the marriage was done in adult stage. Even adult wife has to face this - so it did not seem to be a fall-out of bal-vivah expressly.
Exactly. @Red Bal Vivah or no bal vivah boys are conditioned to think themselves above girls and women. And this is the reason behind not only many break ups in relationships but also for ugliness prevailed in the society today in the form of acid attacks on girls or raping them brutally.

@Blue Even if Ja-an marriage would have happened after becoming adults , it still could have broken if after witnessing a new world J would have succumbed to it's charms.
Even today in a large section of society girls and boys do not have much say when it comes to selecting their life partners and they have to marry a person selected by their parents and family without much protesting.
Then how come Ja-an break up was due to bal vivah or what rights J was denied due to bal vivah only?

@ Bold. Could not agree more.

leavesandwaves thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#33
Forget bal vivah, even ordinary vivah fails many times if there is incompatibility.

Western society is an example where bal vivah is unheard of but the divorce rate is ery high comparatively.

Bal vivah is wrong because it uses girls as commodity to produce waris and to work like a bonded labour.

And does not ensure that the girl is educated and allowed to work outside.

The girl is too young and becomes submissive due to fear and ignorance.

Her parents themselves consider her a burden and a liability if she is not married off as early as possible.

The girls are denied the choice to marry when they want, to marry who they want and not to marry out of choice.

In short the girls get a very raw deal vis a vis boys.

SPuja thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#34
J-G relationship happened not because J was in bal-vivah with A but because he was exposed to a different cultural setting at an impressionable age. He was even shown to disown his village identity and assuming a new name - all this cannot be a fall-out of bal-vivah. If he remained in the village - most certainly he would have continued his relationship with Anandi - she was way better than average village girls, an obedient daughter-in-law, expert in household works and cooking.
SPuja thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#35
Bal-vivah is wrong for many reasons. But not always the girls are used as bonded labourers. The patriarchal society thinks girls have to do household works - even unmarried girls living with their parents do lots of household works. It is not always pressure to produce a waris - these married children do not know that their body is not mature enough to become parents - and since it is the girls who have to bear the burden of pregnancy and child-birth - it is her health that suffers. It mostly happens in communities where girl's education is never a priority - married or unmarried. And working outside happens - because they are into labour force - working in fields, or maids etc. It is a complicated web where all the generations are suffering. BV has shown sasre wale as some monster - and balika vadhu as the only sufferer.
leavesandwaves thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#36
The evil of Bal Vivah is generic.They used a specific story which confused viewers no end.

There were so many twists and turns which made viewers to question the way it was portrayed.

It became a typical love triangle where anandi loved Jagya, Jagya fell for Gauri.

It took anandi a long time to forget Jagya and accept a second marriage.

Meanwhile Jagya got disillusioned with Gauri and wanted anandi back in his life till Ganga entered his life.

Now young Nandini is developing some sort of feeling for the wrong guy Kundan. Kundan is happy to insult her and ignore her. Kundan's parents are clueless. They are waiting for some forced Gauna while treating the balikavadhu like trash. And now they say she will fill everyone's life with color except hers. Everyone means Mangla Devi.
SPuja thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#37
With other bal-vivahs also they confused viewers. I think the best bal-vivah shown so far is Sugna's - very close to real life. Nobody was wrong there (till Pratap's unfortunate death), her parents did not think she was a liability, her in-laws did not think about her as a bonded labourer or a waris producing machine, her husband did not treat her like trash, like normal bride - she was looking upto going to sasra and spending time with her husband etc.
Thereafter - they developed a cliche - only groom's family wrong, groom is bad person, girl's mother does not want child - marriage, girl also does not want child-marriage etc. But then they cannot show a child-bride who actually looks tortured - she has to look in perfect health, cute and happy and visually appealing.
leavesandwaves thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#38
Girl will look cute and pretty because of her genes. She does not look underfed because there are some who see that she is fed well. She looks cheerful because some people are cheerful inspite of everything and some look gloomy inspite of favourable circumstances. Have not we seen slum children or street children more boisterous and go getting than some rich kids who always complain and are moody?
chirpy_life19 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

Nandini's bal husband looks and acts like a villain. How can she even think of playing holi with him?

Nandini who should have been studying in a good school in Udaipur seems to be uneducated for her age and living among uncultured people with some exceptions.

Instead anandi should have been content with amol and without getting pregnant. We would have been spared this torture.


Even I have the same doubt. I don't think this is the first time he ill-treated her. But still she tried to pull his leg ? 😕 I wish CVs give a clear picture of Nandini & Kundan relation. But definitely that guy does things like the wild...
tanvismile thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#40
So what exactly are the ill effects of bal vivah which cvs should have shown?

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".