Balika Vadhu 24 August Written - Sa Diets n Ja takes Flight

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#101

I just think that too much is expected of Jagya while Sanchi's behavior gets a clean pass coz she is just being herself.

Yes - Jagya is engaged and yes - he shud not have agreed to it simply because of Anandi's saasra threat being held on his head. He is trying to atone for Anandi's previous "DUKH" and is being blackmailed to ensure her current "SUKH" prevails.

Isn't this unfair in the extreme ?

The people one cares for - their own family - they are the ones well, not all, but the one prevailing for sure are DS and Sumi and they despite knowing he has misgivings - are pushing him into yet another alliance and this time with a veiled threat. If you refuse - Anandi will suffer.

How fair is this ? But when he is clear about and explains about what he really wishes to do for the preject he has currently in hand - these same manipulators get upset. Why ? Why Sanchi and Sumi shud be allowed to get away with deceiving and why shud J have to answer ?

DS and Bhairon don't think anything is wrong in his going to M, then why shud Sanchi have to issue him a permit to do so ?

Enagagement and marriage are not prisons. We don't need permissions for everything we want to do as long as it is not immoral. Currently J himself doesn't know if what he feels for GnM is just extreme responsibility or something else. Then - how can he be accused of cheating on S.

S herself has who knows what hidden motives in wanting to marry J and is is doing and continues to do - all underhand things to trap him - but that gets bypassed. NO comments on that. WHY ?

Why shud J have informed but S shudn't say - I'm doing this only till marriage to trap your family - after that I'm going to continue with my spoilt brat ways ? Sa can live a complete lie ?? And that's OK ?

And J is not even lying. He is not bothering anyone with his agenda. At max he shud discuss his time off with LalSingh for hospi duties and his home. No one else.

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#102

Originally posted by: Jan50

Jagia is not on parole that he has to inform the authorities whenever he leaves town.😆
In fact one of the reasons for the engagement period is ment for couples to make sure
that they really are interested in each other. It is not marriage yet. only fault of J is not saying
No to this alliance and put his stupid mother in her place. As people are saying he does not know
That Sanchi really has a problem with his interest in Ganga. Being a modern girl he must have
Thought Sanchi would have understood. Let Sanchi have the guts to open her mouth and
Spill it out. Will she? No way. She is afraid J will reject this alliance in a minute. She is so
Dependent on the backwardness and pettiness of Sumitra for this alliance.

Totally agree with your comment and specially with the bold area.

If the engagement period has issues then maybe this is a good idea to take a step back and reexamine the alliance.

Am glad finally things will come to a head. I can just see Sumi bursting like Etna and spewing venom against Ganga yet again - but this needed to happen. Sumi shud rant openly - in front of Jagya - and for the reasons that REALLY bother her and not hold "Anandi's future Sukh" as a sword on J's head.

Am glad the stupid wait will be over. Let J say - I can't expect to live the rest of my life - applying for permission to do everything I plan to do, and then defending my actions and motives. This is not military school. And if THIS FARCE IS going to be called MARRIAGE, I don't want it at all - thankyou very much.

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Missesha

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Posted: 12 years ago

#103

If J called off the engagement it would be great. I really want him to take up a stand, be firm and say that I cannot & do not wish to marry Sa. Looking forward to that.

But if he is not gonna do that, i.e. just the way he told Shiv that he is marrying Sa for right reasons, then he NEEDS to show interest in Sa. He seems to be completely disinterested in Sa. Never calls her, gets gifts, thinks of her, misses her, etc... anything? People in an engagement courtship try to come close in whatever way they can, just to start building that life, which they are gonna spend together forever. But J is nowhere there.

So far we have only seen him receiving Sa's call, and even in that he gets suffocated (anyone would), and tries to cut it short (which again anyone would). But then if he has so much of suffocation, why is he still continuing with her? He only abides when forced, why not out of happiness? J needs to ask himself these questions.

J does not have to give report to Sa of all his movements, but the problem here is not about informing, it is about involving her in his life.

J has never involved her, in his life. If he had, telling her that he is going to Mangalore would have been natural and it would not feel / sound like seeking permission.

There is no doubt that Sa is WRONG. She is wrong, but that does not mean J's ignoring her is fine. If he can't make her a part of his life, and finds it too difficult that he should call it off before its too late.

Otherwise going to see another Female friend out of the way, gives chances for one's fiance to be upset (jelaous).

Also even if he had told Sa before hand, Sa would have still not liked it, but then at least J would have made his side clear regarding his trip to Mangalore.

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kase

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Posted: 12 years ago

#104

😕

Originally posted by: aparnauma

@bold - I think these scenes are being used to reinforce their relationship in the minds of the viewers and probably will be used as FBs later on.

Shekhars know what their daughter is really like and they are so desperate to believe ther love for Jagya is changing her for better.So I think it will be a long time before they allow themselves to face the truth.

Not only the ANSH scenes even Anandi's dialogs in these scenes are repetitive... Why the need for FB? Scary thought - they have just settled down to a normal life and FB?😕

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Missesha

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Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#105

Originally posted by: saba113
I dont understand what wrong Jagaya is doing? The criticism on him is going out of my understanding where there are flaws in his redemption?

People are saying why he accepted the proposal in the first place if he does not have any feelings for Sanchi ? My question he has feelings for whom ? No one He simply does not want to marry neither he loves anyone neither wants He pretty clearly said i do not want to marry at all Family and Anandi made him agree its our wish and its for your own good What reasons he has to say No to Sanchi? An alliance came into his home , his parents are happy , The girl is claiming to him i love you , she even said to him i know you don't love me now but i will wait for you to realize your feelings for me , Who are you , what are you , what are you doing i accept you with everything She even said to him i cannot live without you She actually begged to him He at first tried to argue i cannot accept this proposal but everyone showed they are ok with this alliance so he got no reason to say No to it He cannot say No to her on basis of i dont love her because he loves no one neither wants .Bring in Ganga here and ask him will you marry her , Do you love her ? He will be same disturbed and upset and his response will be same No because the truth is he loves no one On his own he does not want to marry at all For his family's sake he is marrying thinking they are only doing it for his better They are happy with Sanchi , Sanchi claims to love him and accepting him with what , who and what works he is doing With that she said i want to marry you So what reasons Jagaya has to say to reject this proposal?just because i don't love her He loves no one, wants to marry no one He is content with himself being single but every one has made his life hell you should marry its for your own good

Exactly, he has feelings for no one and hence he should not marry anyone. Anandi was wrong in bullying him to get married and has been bashed for that. But at the end of the day it is J's life. He needs to make a final call. When he was given that opportunity to say yes or no to Sa, then he should have said, can't make up his mind right now. Needs some time to think. I am sure Shekhars would have accepted his honesty. In fact they too were hoping that J should say No.

But he said yes for 'family's sake', so now he is in a fix. His duty for his family does not end by saying 'yes' to Sa. It only just starts.

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#106

Originally posted by: Missesha
Exactly, he has feelings for no one and hence he should not marry anyone. Anandi was wrong in bullying him to get married and has been bashed for that. But at the end of the day it is J's life. He needs to make a final call. When he was given that opportunity to say yes or no to Sa, then he should have said, can't make up his mind right now. Needs some time to think. I am sure Shekhars would have accepted his honesty. In fact they too were hoping that J should say No.

But he said yes for 'family's sake', so now he is in a fix. His duty for his family does not end by saying 'yes' to Sa. It only just starts.

@bold.

But the poor fellow DID say he never wanted to get married ever again. But he was told he has pained his family so much in the past and the ONLY way he can make it up to them is by getting married and settling down.

His family - esp Dadisa and Sumi - they just don't want to see, hear anything except Jagya settled down in grahasth ashram with 2-3 toddlers running about. They are not willing to see that he is just not ready for a commitment. He has tried in so many ways to tell them exactly this - so what is he to do ?

then they told him - you are our culprit and anandi's culprit and the only way she is willing to forgive you is if you agree to marry. This is forgiveness with strings and conditions.

Even then - he said -I think I'm a bad judge of people - you all decide and agree on a person and I will marry. And then - Sumi and DS are literally shoving Saanchi down his throat. Anandi stayed mute when he asked, when he questioned, when he COULD stop it, and Anandi has TO DATE - not told him about her doubts.

Plus with Sanchi now playing all these games - even Anandi- who has the option to dig a little deeper - is sitting pretty in la-la land.

Jagya is in a tough spot. He wants solitude - he can't get it. He wants absolution and he can get it - only if he marries. And he is not ready to marry. Shud he just be pushed around so much that he feels suffocated and wants to run away again ?

And if he runs away - who's fault will that be ?

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

#107

Originally posted by: Missesha

J does not have to give report to Sa of all his movements, but the problem here is not about informing, it is about involving her in his life.

J has never involved her, in his life. If he had, telling her that he is going to Mangalore would have been natural and it would not feel / sound like seeking permission.

Yes great point Missesha. 👍🏼

It's just about his fiance being a natural extension of his life ... and not a clinical 'responsibility' of informing that he fulfils devoid of emotion.

Edited by sectoreight - 12 years ago

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Missesha

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Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#108

Hooked, I agree J is in tough spot. And he has given into the pressures of his family. But the fact is that he chose to say 'yes' so he should put up with it respectfully, just the way when A said 'yes' to Shiv, and was expected to put up with it respectfully.

I had completely disliked A's attitude towards Shiv back then, and now I see J not doing enough for his 'rishta'.

It's a whole different thing that Sa is not another Shiv for J, in fact she is more manipulative, but then yet is J doing right by marrying Sa for family's sake? Is it right to fulfill one's wish (family's) at a cost of another one's ( Saanchi's) happiness.

Does he have capacity & interest to pull through this 'non-benefiting' & suffocating relationship? If not he should opt out.

I don't have any sympathies for Sa here, but I am questioning J's decision and his actions thereafter.

Also he should opt out because he does not like Sa, not because he suddenly realised that he likes Ganga. That would be unfair to Sa, regardless of however mean she is.

As for Anandi, I agree & maintain that she was wrong in bullying him, and made a lapse on her part when J looked for some help from her. But unfortunately it is J's rishta, and it will not help to pass any blame to Anandi / family, if it didn't work out.

Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

#109

Okay farewell all :wave:

For me, the thread has run its course with all points being covered. I am bowing out.

Loved all the discussions and the points made by everyone. Thanks for a stimulating interaction. !! 🤓

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Monamie

@monamie111

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#110

thanks for the wu...

i am still waiting for the CVs to surprise us...when & how jaggya will feel something for ganga?...when will he know that ganga loves him actually?...and how SaJa engagemnet will break... 🤔

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