Balika Vadhu 24 August Written - Sa Diets n Ja takes Flight

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: noshows
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so now jagiyya has to follow a protocol and get saanchis sanction for everything. saanchi can I go to hospital now or can I go check on patient in room number 7, I am asking you because she is a woman and I need your permission...

Come on noshows! Surely you jest 😆😆

There is a BIG difference between daily routines and out of the way trips to Mangalore.

And there is a difference in realism vs. flights of fancy.

It is very unrealistic for a woman to expect that her male doctor fiance will work in an all male hospital with all male nurses, all-male pharmacists, all-male wardboys, and ofcourse only all-male patients in room # 7. I also don't think that any woman will have issues with her husband working with women staff or women patients because there is no cause to believe that he is consciously or unconsciously trying to seduce them 😆😆

It is however very realistic to be concerned when he takes a special interest in ONE particular woman and from an out of work context goes to meet her...

He may not have asked for her permission, but he could certainly have informed her and made it clear to her that he did not care for her opinion even. That too would have been fine.

Edited by sectoreight - 12 years ago

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aparnauma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#92

If I have to chose between listening to Sanchi's screaming and Gauri's screaming I would chose Gauri's screaming any day😆

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saba113

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Posted: 12 years ago

#93

I dont understand what wrong Jagaya is doing? The criticism on him is going out of my understanding where there are flaws in his redemption?

People are saying why he accepted the proposal in the first place if he does not have any feelings for Sanchi ? My question he has feelings for whom ? No one He simply does not want to marry neither he loves anyone neither wants He pretty clearly said i do not want to marry at all Family and Anandi made him agree its our wish and its for your own good What reasons he has to say No to Sanchi? An alliance came into his home , his parents are happy , The girl is claiming to him i love you , she even said to him i know you don't love me now but i will wait for you to realize your feelings for me , Who are you , what are you , what are you doing i accept you with everything She even said to him i cannot live without you She actually begged to him He at first tried to argue i cannot accept this proposal but everyone showed they are ok with this alliance so he got no reason to say No to it He cannot say No to her on basis of i dont love her because he loves no one neither wants .Bring in Ganga here and ask him will you marry her , Do you love her ? He will be same disturbed and upset and his response will be same No because the truth is he loves no one On his own he does not want to marry at all For his family's sake he is marrying thinking they are only doing it for his better They are happy with Sanchi , Sanchi claims to love him and accepting him with what , who and what works he is doing With that she said i want to marry you So what reasons Jagaya has to say to reject this proposal?just because i don't love her He loves no one, wants to marry no one He is content with himself being single but every one has made his life hell you should marry its for your own good

Another point being raised The issues of him keeping his engagement as well as seeing Ganga This is wrong My question with which eyes he sees Ganga as a woman who needs help? He pretty clearly does not love her so what is issue? Where his redemption is going weak Why he should not fulfill his responsibility ?He is right on his part Ganga if will have any problem she will not tell him at all and he has also heard she was crying there on phone to him so for surety he wants to see it with his own eyes and confirm everything is ok because he took this responsibility on him for her well being What is wrong in it ?

Why in the world he should tell this to Sanchi ? Why he needs to tell every work he does to her ? and what new work he is doing that he should inform to madam ? Does she not know he is helping a woman naming Ganga ? Why he should give benefits of doubts to Ganga for this woman Sanchi when she has clearly told him i have no issue with your helping Ganga, in her heart she is black but to him she is covering her face with mask i have no issue with your helping Ganga I praise you for it so why Jagaya needs to tell her he went to see Ganga or he is helping her ? Till now she is only his fiancee not wife and to top it all Jagaya does not know Sanchi's vendetta against Ganga To him Sanchi and Shekhars very well know Ganga is like a part of their family Dadisaa herself told to Shekhars and Sanchi Ganga is also a part of our family so Jagaya only went to see a person like a family member so why Jagaya needs to tell this to Sanchi ?

What is indecency if he has not taken her with him ? She is his fiancee not wife Who takes fiancees everywhere with them ? First differentiate between a fiancee and a wife

Which commitment he is not fulfilling with Madam Sanchi ? i believe commitments come in marriage In engagement you are seeing your partner whether i want to live with him or not if Sanchi is not happy with works of Jagaya his priorities so back off , break the engagement why he should change himself for her ? She shows to him i am accepting you with all that you are , what you are doing so why he should change for her?

Jagaya is not getting more and more attached with Ganga and Mannu He has not changed This much attached he already was to them and Sanchi knows it Sanchi is the one who proposed him He did not and when she proposed to him she knew Ganga is living with him under same roof , How much caring is Jagaya to Ganga , How much attached he is to Mannu , He has always sided with Ganga whenever Sanchi bad mouthed her She has done all his birthday preparations , Jagaya has even cut her baked cake first not Sanchi's Sanchi even suspects Ganga loves Jagaya About Jagaya she knows he does not love Ganga She even knows he does not love her but she thinks he likes me he will fall for me too because i am so great

A woman knowing all this is saying to him i want to marry you I have no issue with what you are doing , Mannu is my best friend too i love that kid now if she is showing her real colors so whose fault is this Jagaya or Sanchi? Sanchi's own .She is cheating Jagaya On her mouth its something else in her heart its something else How Jagaya can know whats in her heart ?

Shekhars are not unaware of anything They know everything about Jagaya and Ganga Till yesterday they were showing they are even ok with Ganga staying under same roof with Jagaya and they still don't know Ganga has left forever or not To them she will come back now all of a sudden they are developing issues why Jagaya went to see Ganga so Whose fault is this ? Only Shekhars Why blaming Jagaya if Shekhars are two timers?To him they are fine with his work This is what they have shown to him

Anjana has raised a point No woman will tolerate this if her fiancee goes to meet another woman in another city even for humanity's sake for her help My question Anjana if the woman already knows then ?Sanchi is not unaware of Jagaya 's care and concern , His attachment to Ganga and Mannu Sanchi even suspects that Ganga loves Jagaya Sanchi has seen all and she said to Jagaya i am fine it now Jagaya does not know she is two timing him Any sensible woman if has issues with Jagaya's care and concern to Ganga and Mannu if she does not have tolerance for this then she will never propose him for marriage If any sensible woman is fine with this then she will tolerate this She will have no issues She will trust Jagaya because she proposed him for marriage after knowing all this

Sanchi madam falls in such category who is jealous of Ganga , she knows everything about Jagaya Ganga Mannu 's bond but to Jagaya she is lying i am fine with Ganga and Mannu even staying with you and behind his back she is screaming ???so how come her cause to scream is valid which every woman will do? Any sensible woman will never behave like her

Jagaya 's past is again and again brought here He has reformed he is longer Jagat so he should do this he should not do that My one and only question to all these members Sanchi and Shekhars have shown to him we are fine with your help to Ganga , They praise him for it so from where Jagaya should conclude Sanchi can be jealous of Ganga ? why in the world he should change his works for Sanchi Sanchi very well knows Jagaya is not gonna leave Ganga and Mannu as it is , whenever where ever they will need him at any point of their lives he will be there for them , Jagaya will never stop caring about them Sanchi knows it so if she has issues from it so call off engagement why hanging on to him Nothing about Jagaya is hidden to Sanchi if she shows to him i am fine i am fine then be fine if she is not fine then call off the engagement Why you guys are after Jagaya what is his fault if Sanchi is the actual two timer? Sanchi is only Jagaya's fiancee Jagaya is sincere to Sanchi its actually Sanchi who is not sincere to him

The thing is Jagaya's heart is blank page now Two women are standing there to write their name on it Had Sanchi been sensible she would have written her name on it but she with her works cannot write her name on any man's heart leave man no woman will like her on contrary Ganga with her understanding and maturity will surely win him

I disagree with all critics of Jagaya here especially Spuja with her utterly wrong statement he is tormenting Sanchi because of another woman just like Anandi Spuja i believe you have to see serial again Your statement is prejudice Don't mind but i have to say you are going over board

Edited by saba113 - 12 years ago

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saba113

@saba113

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Posted: 12 years ago

#94

Originally posted by: sectoreight

It is however very realistic to be concerned when he takes a special interest in ONE particular woman and from an out of work context goes to meet her...

He may not have asked for her permission, but he could certainly have informed her and made it clear to her that he did not care for her opinion even. That too would have been fine.

why he needs to inform her ? Does she not know he is helping a woman naming Ganga ? Does she not know about how much he respects Ganga and love Mannu The night she proposed him for marriage she came to know Ganga did all his birthday preparations , even he made her shut up when she was talking against Ganga , liked Ganga's gift but hers he didn't even appreciate , even cut Ganga's cake before her She said to him i am fine with all this i am accepting you For him this work is no less than his other work Responsibility is a responsibility Ganga is not another woman but have become like a good friend to him and Sanchi knows about it To him she shows i am fine with Ganga and also Mannu is my best friend in heart she is jealous but outside she shows to him i am fine so why he is at fault You don't go out to tell your fiancees about your all works if she is wife then know

She already knows about he is helping Ganga so he does not need to tell madam again and again i am helping her when she already knows so i disagree with you

Edited by saba113 - 12 years ago

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saba113

@saba113

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Posted: 12 years ago

#95

Originally posted by: redapple1
CVS wants us to believe a girl to be married will be super happy when she finds out that her fiance is going to meet another girl. 😛
Jagya should have taken stand before engagement or even on engagement day. He pretty much knows what happens. He has first hand experience 😊 Also he knows the feeling of jealousy. He felt that when his second wife talked to another doctor. Since Jagya has changed from Jagat, if he had given little thought he would not have gone to Mangalore, but called Ganga and made sure she is doing fine.
Either they have to show him breaking off engagement very soon and confessing his love to Ganga(not dragging for months) or he will change Sanchi to be a better person and have good life with her.

@bold red disagree completely I believe a girl who already has seen the attachment of his would be fiancee with a woman and her son living under same roof with him still she goes out to propose him i love you and want to marry you and i am fine with what you are doing then she will be happy with it too otherwise she won't opt to marry him so first point Disagree

@Bold blue again disagree completely Sanchi has shown to him i have no issue with even Ganga staying with you i accept you then from where he should derive about jealousy ?Which first hand experience you are talking about ?sanchi is not his wife why he should stop helping Ganga for Sanchi ? That guy was flirting with Gauri is Jagaya flirting with Ganga? so what issues Sanchi have ? why he is helping her so he should stop helping Ganga because he is going to marry Sanchi ? Jagaya does not love Ganga It is crystal clear from the serial so according to your view every that person should not marry who chose to help a person of opposite gender or has a friend of opposite gender ? You are not saying this directly but meaning coming out from your post is only this I have a best friend who is a male i don't want to marry him naah neither love him but he is my best friend i want to continue my friendship with him till i am alive so it means i should not marry any other guy ?

and i believe you have missed the episode Jagaya called Ganga and he came to know she is crying so he got more disturbed and want to see with his own eyes in which condition she is otherwise the truth is she won't tell him even if she is dying she will say i am fine because to this extent he knows her so why he should have not gone to Mangalore?

@bold green when he does not love Ganga yet so from where he should he confess it and why in the world he needs to break off with Ganga never see her face to continue with Sanchi ? if Sanchi has issues why she don't tell him instead of lying and call off the engagement ?

Disagree completely with your post

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saju1

@saju1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#96

just waiting for the last seen of sachi,i hate dat girl

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Jan50

@Jan50

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Posted: 12 years ago

#97

Jagia is not on parole that he has to inform the authorities whenever he leaves town.😆

In fact one of the reasons for the engagement period is ment for couples to make sure

that they really are interested in each other. It is not marriage yet. only fault of J is not saying

No to this alliance and put his stupid mother in her place. As people are saying he does not know

That Sanchi really has a problem with his interest in Ganga. Being a modern girl he must have

Thought Sanchi would have understood. Let Sanchi have the guts to open her mouth and

Spill it out. Will she? No way. She is afraid J will reject this alliance in a minute. She is so

Dependent on the backwardness and pettiness of Sumitra for this alliance.

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saba113

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Posted: 12 years ago

#98

Jagaya did not have any option to say No to the proposal of Sanchi The fact is he was badly trapped from every side People are saying he didn't take stand against it The truth is he did but in the last he has to submit because there was no choice for him where to go .Jagaya is emotionally disturbed after whatever happened in his life it broke him He does not want to marry neither wants to get involved in any relationship When Sanchi's proposal came what was his reaction Shocked , No never , i have never seen her with these eyes , this is impossible What was his family's reaction what happened , what went wrong they only brought a proposal for you He said i want to talk to Anandi about it is she ok? because they are going to be tied in a strange relationship DS and Sumi arm wrestled with him scratched his wounds , his guilt after a long time Anandi got happiness in her life Don't say anything like this that will ruin it He went to ask from Shekhars and indirectly asked from Anandi Anandi was standing in too submissive mode she did not even give one gesture to him she is ok or not on contrary Dadu was lecturing him about children's happiness Shekhars were showing to both Jagaya and Singhs they are fine with this proposal Jagaya was still not convinced he said i want to talk to Sanchi he went on to ask her she was literally begging to him i will not be able to live without you , i love you , i know you don't know love me but i will wait for you realize your feelings for me She was showing to him she has named herself for him got his name engraved on her arm

Sanchi said to him i accept you with your past , present , with everything I will wait for you to love me so did Jagaya have any option to say no ? He could not break so many hearts His only fault is that he was acting selfless He did not think about himself but sacrificed himself for sake of happiness of two families Thats his fault

He didn't ask for time to think over it because everyone made him believe they are happy with it so he did not put his choice in consideration because fact is give him how much time his own answer will never change he does not want marry Not Sanchi but no girl at all

and where he is not trying to adjust with Sanchi ? Twice a day she calls him now he does not feel the need to call when she herself calls him every time twice a day regularly Where his bonding is not shown with Sanchi maharani ? Now he cannot jump with joy because he is someone carrying the wounds of two failed relationships but he tries his best to be happy with Shekhars and Sanchi When she came to hospital played a trick on him he played it back on her and laughed it was she who spoiled his mood later by talking against Ganga , he was participating in her shopping for engagement planning it was she who spoiled his mood again by trying to over dominate him , Now he cannot go Udaipur to show himself he is bonding with Shekhars but whenever they are at Singhs Jagaya tries his best to be happy with them smiles at Dadu's jokes etc He wore that horrible jacket just to please her and tried to smilee with her in photo shoot What more he can do ? Go on dates with her He is not a free man for this but if she will plan for outing he will surely adjust within his schedule

If he thinks about Ganga and Mannu they are the people that were companions of his loneliness who gave him a reason to smile In their company he use to be happy when Sanchi was no where in his life they came before him he misses them , is it a sin ?

I am trying to find sense in the point he is tormenting his fiancee with other woman He is walking on same path ? Sanchi already knows everything He made it clear to her i have my own principles i don't like anyone's interference in it Told her crystal clear i am gonna help Ganga when , where she will need me so if Sanchi is hanging on to him still what is his fault ? why he should be held responsible for tormenting poor Sanchi ? The grossly unfair blame being put on him He is clear and open to her if she has issues she can anytime call off the engagement Neither Sanchi is unaware of everything neither Shekhars are

Engagement is just a ritual No religion , law , custom holds it equal to commitment of marriage ? Who told the anti Jagaya group that ? Themselves invented 😕Marriage is actual commitment to break it you have go through a proper process of divorce Engagement i believe is just a ritual done for formality in subcontinent a mini celebration for alliance done but from alliance fixed till marriage does not happen a person has to only see that is he ready to marry to his / her partner Why Jagaya needs to inform his each and every work to Sanchi maharani ? Does she not know about he is helping Ganga ? Has she not seen their bonding still she went out to propose him To him she is showing i am fine with your bonding with Ganga and Mannu in her heart she is black so why it is his fault ?

His wish he want to see Ganga and Mannu again and again to Mangalore Why he needs to break off his engagement for it ? The most illogical point is this a person cannot go to help anyone of opposite gender even on humanitarian basis because it will be injustice to his great fiancee who already knows everything but still it is wrong so never help anyone and seriously how grossly unfair is this people are bashing his relationship with Ganga as so called insaniyat ka rishta 🤢what wrong he did that he is blamed like this ? even his relationship with Ganga is mocked 👎🏼

i believe these bunch of Jagaya critics will never be convinced The criticism is completely becoming 👎🏼

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SPuja

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Posted: 12 years ago

#99

Originally posted by: saba113
I dont understand what wrong Jagaya is doing? The criticism on him is going out of my understanding where there are flaws in his redemption?

I disagree with all critics of Jagaya here especially Spuja with her utterly wrong statement he is tormenting Sanchi because of another woman just like Anandi Spuja i believe you have to see serial again Your statement is prejudice Don't mind but i have to say you are going over board

Where I am prejudiced? I see the serial without any attachment to any particular character. What I wrote is reproduced below:

Perhaps I could not write it clearly, my resentment is why do CVs show such insult towards the institution of marriage? Jagya could as well reject the rishta, if he has accepted, then why there is no bonding with his future wife/her family? Did they ever show Jagya himself trying to talk to Sanchi or her family (except when he was trying to say that he will not be available because he is going to Mangalore), did they ever show him thinking about Sanchi? No all he thinks about is Ganga and Mannu. This serial is so preachy, so they should at least should not show something that is all wrong- agreeing to marry some girl but bonding with some other girl. If Jagya could shout at her mother for her inability to stop Ganga from going out during night, he could as well shout (better without shouting but with firm stand) and say that he is not ready for marriage with Sanchi. He tormented his previous wife with his alliance with some other girl, now he is again on the same path, it is just that so far there is no love interest from his side (however a lot of emotions are still there) and instead of the other woman, his would be wife is the bad girl.

I did not say that he is tormenting Sanchi, just that he is on the same path. If some people think that saying that Jagya should have rejected Sachi's rishta is prejudice. Or if he is getting married to Sanchi, he should take interest in this rishta and bond with Sanchi (instead of Ganga, tell me what is truth, did he ever remembered Sanchi the way he remembers Ganga all the time) and her family or comparing the situation with Anandi and Gauri and saying that this time the would be wife is the bad girl- is prejudice, then what more I can say?

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noshows

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Posted: 12 years ago

#100

Originally posted by: sectoreight

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Come on noshows! Surely you jest 😆😆

There is a BIG difference between daily routines and out of the way trips to Mangalore.

And there is a difference in realism vs. flights of fancy.

It is very unrealistic fora womanto expect that her male doctor fiance will work in an all male hospital with all male nurses, all-male pharmacists, all-male wardboys, and ofcourse only all-male patients in room # 7. I also don't think that any woman will have issues with her husband working with women staff or women patients because there is no cause to believe that he is consciously or unconsciously trying to seduce them 😆😆

It is however very realistic to be concerned when he takes a special interest in ONE particular woman and from an out of work context goes to meet her...

He may not have asked for her permission, but he could certainly have informed her and made it clear to her that he did not care for her opinion even. That too would have been fine.

Going to mangalore is not at all out of way, especially when he is not taking advantage of relationship.

I am sure we can call the scenario below as wrong:
Going out of house without saying a word when wife is right behind you screaming your name, and then calling wife and telling what happened ...is wrong(like shiv and anandhi)

If this did not raise any eyebrows, jaggiyya is not even close to be questioned.

I think people start accepting redemption and be supportive of character rather than criticizing all the time.

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