Balika Vadhu 24 August Written - Sa Diets n Ja takes Flight - Page 12

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

Hooked, I agree J is in tough spot. And he has given into the pressures of his family. But the fact is that he chose to say 'yes' so he should put up with it respectfully, just the way when A said 'yes' to Shiv, and was expected to put up with it respectfully.

I had completely disliked A's attitude towards Shiv back then, and now I see J not doing enough for his 'rishta'.
It's a whole different thing that Sa is not another Shiv for J, in fact she is more manipulative, but then yet is J doing right by marrying Sa for family's sake? Is it right to fulfill one's wish (family's) at a cost of another one's ( Saanchi's) happiness.
Does he have capacity & interest to pull through this 'non-benefiting' & suffocating relationship? If not he should opt out.
I don't have any sympathies for Sa here, but I am questioning J's decision and his actions thereafter.
Also he should opt out because he does not like Sa, not because he suddenly realised that he likes Ganga. That would be unfair to Sa, regardless of however mean she is.
As for Anandi, I agree & maintain that she was wrong in bullying him, and made a lapse on her part when J looked for some help from her. But unfortunately it is J's rishta, and he cannot pass any blame to Anandi / family, if it didn't work out.


I too was not happy with the engagement. J shud have stalled and said outright - I don't like being rushed. Even if it will take 4 months - so be it. I don't feel comfortable getting into it so soon.

But then - when has he ever had anyone listen to him. He gets manipulated n bulldozed into these things all the time. If he ever sticks to his guns - then he gets branded selfish and ungrateful and a snob and all kinds of things.

His family places too many conditions on him all the time. Its like a Gulliver being tied down by all the thousands of tiny ropes. Why are Ds and Sumi not getting criticized I wonder ? Why does no one see how many unfair conditions he is living with and forced to obey ? He is told he is free but he can't do anything of his own free will without getting tied up on a public chauraha and stoned for it. 😡

Why is Jagya always being held wrong ? Why shud Sumi n Sanchi n DS and even Anandi not get questioned on these forums and held guilty for bullying Jagya and controlling him thru emotional mindgames ?
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But then - the saving grace is - this is why we have to have an engagement period. When two parties rush into something without thinking things thru - and rifts happen - maybe that is exactly what is needed to show up the flaws in a union doomed to failure.

This is good. Am glad it is happening. Maybe this will make the truly guilty parties - namely DS and Sumi - realize how wrong they were to try to leash Jagya and how they can't control him and why this relationship will never be smooth. It shud not have happened and I hope it will break before shaadi happens.

Edited by hooked - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Hooked, I agree, and if we go back to the roots, Anandi, Singhs and Shekhars are to be blamed highly for SaJa mess.

The first wrong happened with J, when Shiv & Anandi made him feel guilty and pulled him back out of laxmiganj. The guy was trying to find solace, which they snatched off him in the name of familys sake.

Secondly, the way Anandi bullied J into marrying - completely completely wrong. She should have never done that, given her own situation of forced marriage.

Thirdly, she failed in her responsibility to find a bride for J. She could neither communicate to J, nor did she object Shekhars when they took forward the proposal.

Singhs are at fault for not sensing their sons feelings. I would even blame Bhairon here that he also did not step up for his son. Neither has anyone asked J, if he is happy with his alliance.

Shekhars are fault for not being able to control their daughter, but instead hoped for J to say 'No' to the alliance.

The entire SaJa track is quite ridiculously set up.

And the all the characters here have passed their burden to J, which he could not further pass on to anyone. But having said that, if he has accepted that burden then he is expected to put up with it gracefully. If he still does not want to, he has a chance to back off. The earlier he does the better, but the longer he waits, the more responsible he will be for breaking hearts & ruining lives. And this time at a dearer cost.

Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
thanks for the update
Jagya has finally gone, Sumi needs to realise he is not a small boy
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sectoreight

Okay farewell all :wave: For me, the thread has run its course with all points being covered. I am bowing out.

Loved all the discussions and the points made by everyone. Thanks for a stimulating interaction. !! 🤓

I wish CVs take a note of all the discussion points and use it creatively for taking this track forward - Very informative and intense discussion - You all can start a parallel BV (Balak Var) serial now 😊 - not joking, seriously great ideas and thoughts
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: SPuja



Where I am prejudiced? I see the serial without any attachment to any particular character. What I wrote is reproduced below:


I did not say that he is tormenting Sanchi, just that he is on the same path. If some people think that saying that Jagya should have rejected Sachi's rishta is prejudice. Or if he is getting married to Sanchi, he should take interest in this rishta and bond with Sanchi (instead of Ganga, tell me what is truth, did he ever remembered Sanchi the way he remembers Ganga all the time) and her family or comparing the situation with Anandi and Gauri and saying that this time the would be wife is the bad girl- is prejudice, then what more I can say?

@bold only you can understand this statement first saying he is walking on same path then saying he is not tormenting Sanchi ? What you really mean by first line Here attachment to any character is not coming what is coming is logic and understanding please clear to us dumb people what you mean by your first line ?

Answer my reasons how he could reject the rishta ? He is interested in no one Sanchi literally begged to him marry me Everyone is happy with it so how he can reject ?

Wow great are your views so you want him jump with joy at third marriage? A person carrying wounds of two failed marriages how he can show excitement for third marriage?Don't he need time to heal up ?

Why he should not remember Ganga and Mannu? Why tell me ? if you can answer me then answer me Those people came in his life before Sanchi if he did a lot for them Even Ganga did a lot for him and his family why in the world he should leave them Answer me ?Why he should not take interest in their well being after all the responsibility he took of them Why he should not fulfill his promises to her The hopes he has given to her? What you really mean instead of Ganga? so i believe you are saying for madam Sanchi leave Ganga ? In which way he is interested in Ganga for her well being Is it a sin ?so according to your theories a person who is engaged or going to be married should break all previous bonds especially it is with some other woman if she is friend or his beneficiary because it becomes a crime and injustice to poor fiancee and it is really bad work Hats off to your logic 🥱

I gave so many examples where he is trying to bind with Sanchi perhaps you haven't read i cannot repeat myself 100 times to you Lol did he remember Ganga in romantic way ?only once he remembered her saying Ganga and Mannu did make one special place in my life , brought a lot of happiness in my life thats when they have gone away from his life and less hope everything can be like before Those two people put smile on this broken man' s face and rest he remembers Ganga when he is concerned about her when she needs help ? On contrary is Sanchi in trouble?, needs help? what happened to her ? why he should remember her in that way as he remember Ganga and Mannu ? When she was in trouble he helped her with equal, care , concern and dedication as Ganga He is trying to adjust with Sanchi to his level's best but perhaps it is not visible to some people

Again your same logic Sanchi is bad girl so this Sanchi is a bad girl please🥱 Sanchi is an antagonist she will be bad and here no one is supporting Jagaya or understanding him because Sanchi is bad so keep this bad girl logic out of here

Your post was prejudice is prejudice and always will be and unfair criticism lacking sense and understanding accept it or not up to you

You cannot say more because you have nothing to say


Edited by saba113 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
uld not remember Ganga and Mannu? Why tell me ? if you can answer me then answer me Those people came in his life before Sanchi if he did a lot for them Even Ganga did a lot for him and his family why in the world he should leave them Answer me ?Why he should not take interest in their well being after all the responsibility he took on them Why he should not fulfill his promises to her The hopes he has given to her?

Beautifully explained
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Posted: 12 years ago
I am glad Jagia defied every one and went to see Ganga. This should build some confidence and self respect in himself. If Sanchi and her clan have a problem with that , let them openly confront
Them in front of Sumi and Ds. He should have thevsense to ignore and question "anandi Sasra" bull
Shit. In really wish there is a calling off wedding scene as reported earlier. That will put Sumi, Ds
To shame which they deserve.this bloody fake unscrupulous "marriage" should be dis respected at all
Cost.Ds and party have not learned anything yet. They forced child marriage and saw the results
Not once but several times. That was nothing but imposition of what hey want for their kids. Even
After all that as happened, they never for once realize that they should not impose what they
Want on their adult children. Even after knowing how unhappy he is they went ahead and black mailed.Jagia will not bear any blame except giving in to all this idiots.
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Posted: 12 years ago
. Even after knowing how unhappy he is they went ahead and black mailed.Jagia will not bear any blame except giving in to all this idiots.

The whole mess of BV that is the story is created by these suffocating , dominant 'elders' who used human beings for social hiearchy . They used children , now adults . I am so sorry , but i don't agree with Anandi's concept of 'parivaar ki khushi and zimmedari ' . In personal life it is listening to any nonsense of a parivaar member , in outside world it is encouraging women to go against parivaar member
[ husband] to the extent of filing police case against them or divorcing them and breaking up the parivaar . Double standards . Clear cut .
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Posted: 12 years ago
Hi kools, while I fully agree with anandi's double standards, I think you have to remember that she is emotionally biased towards her own family because the singhs took care of her and loved her ... in others cases, (phooli, chanda, etc.) the family too - in addition to the husband had turned against the aggrieved woman.
I'm not excusing her double standard but just sort of giving an explanation for why it is so.
Edited by sectoreight - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
I believe its really not an issue that Jagaya should have informed it to Sanchi before going to Mangalore ? First Jagaya is not doing anything which is unknown to Sanchi She already knows about he is helping Ganga and is very concerned and caring to her and her child and will do anything to fulfill his promise and commitment to them He consider's it his responsibility .and Jagaya has already made it clear to her when she was stopping him not to go to Mangalore to drop Ganga and Mannu He in crystal clear words told her i have my own rules and principles and i don't like anyone's interference in it It will be better to you understand it right now He very clearly said to her i am not gonna leave Ganga and Mannu as it is , whenever , wherever they will need me i will be there for them Their well being my responsibility if i have taken it i will be fulfilling it Sumitra said to Sanchi Ganga will come back and work in Jaitser hospital This is Jagaya's decision Nothing is hidden from Sanchi so if she has issues with it she can call off engagement anytime she want but Jagaya has been sincere to her he very clearly told her This is my decision but she is saying to him i am fine in her heart she is black but outside she is showing him i am fine ? so why blaming him ?

Why Jagaya should not have gone to Mangalore ? He is absolutely right to go there and being sincere to his commitment to Ganga and Mannu the promise he has made with them , the responsibility he took of them now here where he is doing injustice with Sanchi and his rishta? His would be wife has assured him outwardly inside her heart he cannot peep but outwardly she has said i have no issue with it You are helping Ganga and Mannu wow i love that kid too so what is Jagaya's fault

Ganga is simply not a other stranger woman someone to whom Shekhars know Singhs treat her like a part of their family

and moreover Jagaya clearly told Sanchi on phone i am in Mangalore Now is it a compulsion he must have told her before going there ?even if he told her after reaching there he told her Didn't lie or hid anything straight forward told her i am here to see Ganga and Mannu so issue for what ?Sanchi is merely a fiancee not a wife It is time for Jagaya and Sanchi to see each other whether they are ready for marriage He is not hiding anything from her if she has issues so back away who is stopping her ?why blaming Jagaya ? Has he not been sincere he would never tell her anything

Edited by sidra08 - 12 years ago

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