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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: monamie111

i know some people in this forum does not need much reasons to start on bashing anandi and today is their party time may be!..but i have not created this topic to bash anyone or to do any personal attack!! if anyone is offended pls feel free to click on the report button..



everyone who is saying that anandi does not know what marriage means..anandi is mean to do this with shiv..whys he married shiv..etc etc i just want to ask them is shiv a perfect husband and fren???...i don think so..why?...

1. Shiv has said that he wants to do it..but has he ever tried to ask anandi if she is ready??? if he can speak it so clearly that what is there in his mind then surely he could have asked this simple thing to anandi too..but he didn't!!! 👎🏼 i found it's very unfair and very unlike shiv, who were more sensible before AnSh marriage!!


2. Shiv who can read anandi's mind so nicely..suddenly has stopped reading her mind!! but no body find him weird here! why guys? is it bcoz he is a guy? 🤢 okay i know guys can not read gurl's mind...but our Shiv can!...do u guys "remember", who r defining anandi has forgotten everything??? then why can't now shiv read her scared eyes!!


for me, not only anandi, but Shiv too failed to be a best fren\[perfect husband!!!...may be he has lost his memory too...or may be he just pretended to understand anandi & stand by her all the time before their marriage...as in real he is not doing the same! 🥱

P.S. - this thread is not to bash shivraj sekhar, but to defend anandi & a try to show where shiv is wrong too! sry for the long post!

Neiter shiv is wrong nor anandi is wrong...both of them are absolutely correct in their POV...i am very glad to see that in this case Bv is not following the the track of the other serials...Ansh relation is very much different from others...SHiv is very good and caring husband and friend of anandi...he exactly know that how to handle anandi to get out from her past...anandi is cold not due to jagya but due to her excessive mental pain which she have get in her unsuccessful previous marriage... so now in her new relation it is very important that someone should break her ice...someone need to learn her what is the actual meaning of the husband wife relation...neither bhairavi nor sumitra can do this ...only one person can do this and he is shiv...if shiv will become equally cold to their relation only to see the fear of anandi then who should will break the ice???????Do not forget that shiv himself is a very unconventional character.The most strong point of his character is that he is always very clear, strong and unconventional to his own point of view...his way to handle any situation is always very unique...the most important thing is that picture abhi baki hai...Bv have only show the problem of ansh relation till now they have not show the solution...so i think that it is not the right time todraw any kind of conclusion .



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Missesha

Shiv is a normal human being who has very carefully and gradually taken steps in his relationship. He has given Anandi support, time and space at every stage. And he has always given her options to make choices.


Anandi is confused in her expressions. Sometimes she is all happy blushing, and sharing intimate eye-locks. During her wedding she was all happy so why would Shiv think she is being forced.

As far as understanding goes, he still understands her. He is not forcing her onto bed. The guy has only expressed his feelings. Is he not even supposed to do that? In fact by sharing these feelings he gave Anandi a CHOICE to make indirectly. She got all horrified instead of opening up.

It's absolutely Anandi's fault here. Not because she fails to go close to him, but because she has not spared any single thought for her MARRIED life. She doesn't have dreams, desires or interest in this marriage. And she is taking no efforts either. When did she last spare a second thinking about her new life, new dreams before or after marriage?

If she is not interested in this marriage, beyond fulfilling her mother's last wish and being a dutiful bahu, she will never be able to move on with Shiv, even if he gives her eternity. It is Anandi's choice to remain in sorrow and self-pity. If she can't take efforts to move on, she cannot be helped.

Shiv is a perfect example of an understanding and mature guy. He cannot be any better. It is time for Anandi to value that.


i agree with the part shiv is normal and after watching yesterday's episode i am cvonvinced that he is perfect husband too!! 😳 😆

BUT, i find anandi normal too!
i do not agree with the part that anandi has not done any effort! for me her only fault is she faked that she is sleepy and did not tell it to shiv that she is scared! but if u have noticed when shiv pulled her near to him she did not pushed him back or insulted him in anyway, instead she tried to accept that "kiss"..and i found it is as her EFFORT!!

i don think it is so wrong in being scared for physical intimacy, in real life too people sometimes felt the same! but for this reason calling anandi a mental case is wrong and sry i couldn't accept it..so i opened this post!! 😡

even in yesterday's episode at the kitchen she was scared, yet she was ready to accept what shiv was trying to do with her...she did not stop him! and i think it is her effort!! it's not like that she is not trying..she is...but she has her fear too..then what is her fault? do we want her to jump on shiv right now? 😕

here, shiv has his own way to know what is there inside anandi's mind..shiv made sure he & anandi will be alone at home..he is again trying to do physical intimacy with his wife, remember not to force her wife for sex but to know why is her fear & what is stopping her..am i right? 😊 so it is his way of doing it! then why can't anandi have her own way to say a no? it also may be a possibility that she thinks it will hurt shiv or may be shiv will feel insulted if she will tell him that she is not ready!

just the way shiv has no clue right now what is making anandi so scared & he wants to know it, anandi also does not have any clue that shiv has no intention of having sex with her, but he just wants to spend a nice time together! 😊 the way shiv is behaving, pulling her near him, trying to kiss her forehead and saying all those words that it will be our 1st night etc etc, how would anandi know that all these r not a signal for physical intimacy but a signal for spending good time together with a little bit of hugs and kisses? 😛 😆...so i felt it is a misunderstanding between AnSh..and they r trying to know each other in their own way! so i don see any of them at fault right now!!

and people who r blaming only anandi..i don know what to say to them..but if u feel, u can try to rethink their situations once again wearing my glasses..bcoz with my glasses i can see both of them in the same boat right now..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shumna

Its amazing that everyone seems to think shiv should ask and make queries on Anandi';s state of mind regarding getting intimate...I can't seem to comprehend this mindset...I am sure a normal man will not marry a women in anticipation that in an unknown date he would be getting intimate with his wife...its ludicrous...she is a divorcee...big deal...its a given that getting intimate with your chosen partner is a part of being married...I would have found it weird if shiv had thoughts of cajoling his reluctant wife to get intimate ... comeon! was he seeking a glorified servant to look after his family's needs of a life partner? 😕


@ bold..yes of course! when u r married just don care if ur partner is scared..don bother if ur partner has gone through any abuses in his\her past life..just jump on ur partner and start!! bcoz it is ur partner's duty to fulfill all u expect..after all u r married right now..so u can do whatever u want to do with ur partner..right! and marriage means only and only physicall intimacy may be..not to understand each other, each other's pain, sorrows, fear..

I can't comprehend this mindset too and i am not at all sorry for this! 🤢
Edited by monamie111 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: nandita.jana



Neiter shiv is wrong nor anandi is wrong...both of them are absolutely correct in their POV...i am very glad to see that in this case Bv is not following the the track of the other serials...Ansh relation is very much different from others...SHiv is very good and caring husband and friend of anandi...he exactly know that how to handle anandi to get out from her past...anandi is cold not due to jagya but due to her excessive mental pain which she have get in her unsuccessful previous marriage... so now in her new relation it is very important that someone should break her ice...someone need to learn her what is the actual meaning of the husband wife relation...neither bhairavi nor sumitra can do this ...only one person can do this and he is shiv...if shiv will become equally cold to their relation only to see the fear of anandi then who should will break the ice???????Do not forget that shiv himself is a very unconventional character.The most strong point of his character is that he is always very clear, strong and unconventional to his own point of view...his way to handle any situation is always very unique...the most important thing is that picture abhi baki hai...Bv have only show the problem of ansh relation till now they have not show the solution...so i think that it is not the right time todraw any kind of conclusion .


very nice post 👏...and i completely agree with u! thank u for posting in this thread! 😳

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: monamie111



BUT, i find anandi normal too!
i do not agree with the part that anandi has not done any effort! for me her only fault is she faked that she is sleepy and did not tell it to shiv that she is scared! but if u have noticed when shiv pulled her near to him she did not pushed him back or insulted him in anyway, instead she tried to accept that "kiss"..and i found it is as her EFFORT!!

i don think it is so wrong in being scared for physical intimacy, in real life too people sometimes felt the same! but for this reason calling anandi a mental case is wrong and sry i couldn't accept it..so i opened this post!! 😡

even in yesterday's episode at the kitchen she was scared, yet she was ready to accept what shiv was trying to do with her...she did not stop him! and i think it is her effort!! it's not like that she is not trying..she is...but she has her fear too..then what is her fault? do we want her to jump on shiv right now? 😕



Mona thanks for responding, but sorry I have never called Anandi as a mental case, in case that was directed to me.

When I say efforts I don't mean efforts for physical intimacy, I mean efforts towards her marital life. Shiv has so many dreams about his marriage and he often expresses them. Anandi seems to have none. She even doesn't get thoughts about Shiv or her future with him like any normal girl would do. And I don't see her taking efforts too. For example, how much does she know about Shiv and his choices, etc.? She appears as if she has been forced into this marriage.

As far physical intimacy is concerned, one cannot try to take efforts. You are either in or not.

Why she doesn't push back Shiv is because mentally she knows he is her husband and he has rights, therefore instead of being outright rude, she is seeking ways of escaping.

All she needs to do is talk out her feelings. Simple.

Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i think anandi is doing perfectly fine as wife of shiv one thing is left that she scared of physical touch of shiv this fear will be remove due to shiv .she can share her feeling to shiv but she dont know how to express it .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: monamie111


@ bold..yes of course! when u r married just don care if ur partner is scared..don bother if ur partner has gone through any abuses in his\her past life..just jump on ur partner and start!! bcoz it is ur partner's duty to fulfill all u expect..after all u r married right now..so u can do whatever u want to do with ur partner..right! and marriage means only and only physicall intimacy may be..not to understand each other, each other's pain, sorrows, fear..

I can't comprehend this mindset too and i am not at all sorry for this! 🤢

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: monamie111


@ bold..yes of course! when u r married just don care if ur partner is scared..don bother if ur partner has gone through any abuses in his\her past life..just jump on ur partner and start!! bcoz it is ur partner's duty to fulfill all u expect..after all u r married right now..so u can do whatever u want to do with ur partner..right! and marriage means only and only physicall intimacy may be..not to understand each other, each other's pain, sorrows, fear..

I can't comprehend this mindset too and i am not at all sorry for this! 🤢

I had no idea she was physically abused by Jagya...if yes...you are right...shiv should be cautious!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shumna

Its amazing that everyone seems to think shiv should ask and make queries on Anandi';s state of mind regarding getting intimate...I can't seem to comprehend this mindset...I am sure a normal man will not marry a women in anticipation that in an unknown date he would be getting intimate with his wife...its ludicrous...she is a divorcee...big deal...its a given that getting intimate with your chosen partner is a part of being married...I would have found it weird if shiv had thoughts of cajoling his reluctant wife to get intimate ... comeon! was he seeking a glorified servant to look after his family's needs of a life partner? 😕

Yup thats true , and thats why in arranged marriages , the wife obliges because it is expected . Whether she is interested , or unwilling does not matter. At least in daily soaps , the heroine gets a choice of the time and place 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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CVs are showing us a perfect example of mis-communication.
people say that shiv is human who has needs to fulfill n so does Anandi.
what thy don't realize is that every human has its own character n shiv n Anandi both are behaving completely out of it.
Anandi needs to speak out n shiv should have also first talked about it instead of bluntly telling him what he wants.
shiv is now acting like Jagya...remember what Jagya told shiv ''shiv plzz let go off Anandi as i won't get a better girl than Anandi''...that time too Anandi had pointed out that Jagya like evevryone is concerned about what he wants but not what Anandi wants...same way on their first day shiv said he wants their second night to be their first but never asked her what she wants


BOTH ANANDI N SHIV ARE AT EQUAL FAULT !!!!! THYE ARE NOW ACTING LIKE GAURI N JAGYA( UNABLE TO COMMUMNICATE PROPERLY) EXCEPT THAT UNLIKE GAURI, ANANDI IS NOT ABLE TO VOICE HER DOUBTS...AND GODS KNOWS WHEN SHE WILL

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