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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ash - Is anyone really that nayi naveli anymore ?
Emotionally atleast, Are there any girls or guys who survive teenage without having any crushes ? Does that not make them have the dreaded "memories" as CM puts it ?

Are we in the mid-east. Is the hymen going to be our next proof of being 'nayi naveli' ? But the guys have no such proof. So how can CM say for certain that Shiv is "brand new" and "UNUSED" ?

CM is just crass. This is only boiling down to her thinking about Anandi as "used second hand merchandise". She never needed another man maybe and so assumes that any woman who opts for another relationaship is automatically unfaithful to her "first".


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't take cm as a dreaded monster... She's just a foolishly sentimental , tom n jerry time pass Aunt ,to keep Anandi out of boredom @ sasural n give her daily victories ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Some comments that CM has no right to interfere in Shiv s life but at the same time if we apply the same formula , in joint family..or even Singhs do not have any right to interfere in Anandi s life..if we consider CM someone from outside shiv s life , then my friends , think and apply to Anandi same. If only real M&D matters and people like CM, Suchi etc does not mean any thing for this marriage, then only Khajain has still the right for Anandi at least for decision making with regards to Anandi s second marraige irrespective what Singhs say...I mean if go by biological way.. Most of the members are of the view that CM has narrow thinkg, compared to urban vs rural ..so on...We have seen in the singh s family that they are joint family and are able to solve the most of the problem in a unanimous way ..again shiv family is the same ..a joint family.. I can smell that we really do not want that any body torture Aannadi as we have seen her always suffering and as a viewer we have become so much concerned that we do not want to see any one inflicting pain on her...and in this process we even do not want to go through the normal process.
Do we not want that CM and Anandi should have a better understanding and cordial relation before the marriage happens...OR we want to see this tu tu tu tu tu tu after marriage and disintegration of Shiv s joint family and blame put on Anandi.
Of course, I can see why we have not joint families ..because the tolerance level for us has decreased significantly and respect for the individual difference has gone to bottom .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AshBendre

CM to me seems a very stubborn n opinionated lady. she was coaxed so many times in her youth to marry again but she did not that shows how much ziddi she is. theother thing i feel that she is gender biased as shiv is a male she thinks he has every right to get a new unused nayi naveli bride with no baggage.


i understand her view to some extent but if shiv as an sensible adult has made his dcision n chosen anandi then why is she saying all this to anandi ???

people who have a contended marriage may voluntarily choose to not remarry. for some the place of the spouse is so wholesome that it needs no refilling. the relationship becomes so complete that theres no scope of replacement. just like a mother child relationship which just can never be replaced. so i can understand if a woman loved her husband so much that she never wanted anyone else to take his place. that may be complete and wholesome love which had fulfilled her life so much that there was no void even if he was gone.
it is totally understandable. but the thing which was meant to be understood was ... anandi's marriage with jagiya did not fall under the category of happy, contended, fulfilled marriage.
it was filled with deciet, lonliness, rejection and pain.
if i were CM, i would have understood that anandi dsnt have any happy memory and is willing to start over.
i doubt if CM dsnt understand the difference between the two situations.
i feel she is definitely bothered by anandi NOT being a VIRGIN.
all the rest is a pile of crap she is doling out to stay politically correct while getting her job done of procuring shiv a VIRGIN bride.
wo kehate hai naa saanp bhi mar jaaye aur laathi bhi naa toote.
that way shiv will never hate her for what she has done to his jodi with anandi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhach

Some comments that CM has no right to interfere in Shiv s life but at the same time if we apply the same formula , in joint family..or even Singhs do not have any right to interfere in Anandi s life..if we consider CM someone from outside shiv s life , then my friends , think and apply to Anandi same. If only real M&D matters and people like CM, Suchi etc does not mean any thing for this marriage, then only Khajain has still the right for Anandi at least for decision making with regards to Anandi s second marraige irrespective what Singhs say...I mean if go by biological way.. Most of the members are of the view that CM has narrow thinkg, compared to urban vs rural ..so on...We have seen in the singh s family that they are joint family and are able to solve the most of the problem in a unanimous way ..again shiv family is the same ..a joint family.. I can smell that we really do not want that any body torture Aannadi as we have seen her always suffering and as a viewer we have become so much concerned that we do not want to see any one inflicting pain on her...and in this process we even do not want to go through the normal process.

Do we not want that CM and Anandi should have a better understanding and cordial relation before the marriage happens...OR we want to see this tu tu tu tu tu tu after marriage and disintegration of Shiv s joint family and blame put on Anandi.
Of course, I can see why we have not joint families ..because the tolerance level for us has decreased significantly and respect for the individual difference has gone to bottom .

thank god we dont have joint families. i am a supporter of nuclear family system. less hassels more freedom.also Cm dsnt have right to interfere in shiv's life is nto becuas eof biological mothers status. it is becuase shiv is a grown up man who has taken his dicision with quite some thought. and if u have read properly we have never said she shudnt question anandi or even stop anandi from marrying shiv. our main objection is she telling anandi to accept jagiya back.
taht is definitely not with in her jurisprudence .
Edited by anjana.d - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

@Fuzzface - I agree with you...as I have myself previously noted...S is J 2.0 (J 2.0 of the Jugya we loved not Jugat) and this new marriage is BV 2.0. So, mini-vamps/obstacles are needed and expected in this new rishta. Be it CM ya Sanchi. It can't all be roses. That said, CM and DS are similar but, different. DS was the family mukhia perpetuating old traditions, she herself was stuck in. Meeno is not the mukia here of Shekhar family...so, her beh is passive aggressive as well as regressive. She is stuck in her own history not just traditional beliefs despite the "progressive" sari...


On the upside, Anandi is Anandi 2.0...so, lets see how she tackles Closed Mind

With ref to your above post Anjana,
Also., let's all think in the perspective of script writers...at the moment., all that they are focussing are on two things as listed below ...not that CM needs to be bashed now, or Shiv's SIS needs to be bashed in the coming episodes...
1. the prejudice that a woman cannot move on completely inspite of remarraige...
2. the prejudice that a village girl cannot be a perfect life partner for a person like Shiv., on both personal and professional fronts...
CM and Shiv's SIS are only the means to trash above ideas...
Their behaviours and nastiness are very much required for CV's to achieve their goal...and we need to appreciate / put up with these characters for the greater good that they will be able to bringforth finally...
Also, I cannot but appreciate how CV's are tackling above prejudices...all in a natural and emotional manner...not with HIGH DRAMA as in most other soaps...It is rather heartwarming that these prejudices and concerns from CM and SIS are woven into the story line so beautifully, that the script is trying to potray them by stemming only out of their LOVE for Shiv.,
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: adi2512

With ref to your above post Anjana,
Also., let's all think in the perspective of script writers...at the moment., all that they are focussing are on two things as listed below ...not that CM needs to be bashed now, or Shiv's SIS needs to be bashed in the coming episodes...
1. the prejudice that a woman cannot move on completely inspite of remarraige...
2. the prejudice that a village girl cannot be a perfect life partner for a person like Shiv., on both personal and professional fronts...
CM and Shiv's SIS are only the means to trash above ideas...
Their behaviours and nastiness are very much required for CV's to achieve their goal...and we need to appreciate / put up with these characters for the greater good that they will be able to bringforth finally...
Also, I cannot but appreciate how CV's are tackling above prejudices...all in a natural and emotional manner...not with HIGH DRAMA as in most other soaps...It is rather heartwarming that these prejudices and concerns from CM and SIS are woven into the story line so beautifully, that the script is trying to potray them by stemming only out of their LOVE for Shiv.,

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however the virginity dogma needs to be busted too. that is also a big issue prevailing int he society even today.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Frankly speaking Anjana., I have never felt., CM's concern is in this point of view ...I've always felt her only concern is of Anandi's whole hearted acceptence of Shiv...leaving her past completely behind...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: adi2512

Frankly speaking Anjana., I have never felt., CM's concern is in this point of view ...I've always felt her only concern is of Anandi's whole hearted acceptence of Shiv...leaving her past completely behind...


I debated if I shud say this here and though this is presuming at the most - but I have to say that if CM is representing the face of common opposition to remarriage of widows/divorcees, then their not being untouched is also a major issue though they may find other ways ie ('yaadein') to say so.

Its like women don't get clean once they bathe. They stay tainted with the touch of another man. CM has not said so yet - but this most certainly will come up and it is the underlying bone of discontent with CM and the ideas she stands for.

A bachelor deserves a maid. But a divorcee shud look for another divorcee or widower perhaps. This, as unpalatable as it sounds IS a major concern. We saw the same thing when Sugna got married. Then Shyam's entire extended family was against Sugna. Here its just CM. In fact, it was much more worse then. Shyam's family was rural and lived close by and Sugna was carrying another's man's baby.

But there - Shyam's will had prevailed. Here too, Shiv's will will prevail and eventually Anandi will win over everyone - well most - with her personality. No in-laws are a set of roses and there have to be some thorns to make it worthwhile. CM will be one. I can live with that.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjana.d

marriage is not a job. the two cannot be compared. you dont mourn for a job but u do mourn for ur desceased partner. how much you mourn depends on what kind fo relationship you had ... if it was a hppay one and u were fulfileld and content , then u may never remarry.
it is not a subject of joke.

its an analogy i gave i have read it in a literary book .you might disagree that doesn't mean you taunt me its not subject of joke ..life is also a job we live we do to fulfill a purpose to earn something .so is marriage ..we fulfill our duties there ...and i am not making fun of marriage neither i am making it subject of joke so please understand before taunting

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