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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

@Khusi - I don't think its Bitter - it judgmental - She cannot get beyond her own experience to grasp Anandi or Anandi's situation. Its how dare this damaged girl phasofy my naive son...he is senseless in love and I must stop this nonsense with my immense sense.


I don't think she is jealous cuz she had choice and did the "honorable" thing...staying true to her husband's memory...not burdening another with them.




While i agree with the basic point anjana, i think that these things are not so sorted sometimes subconciously in heads of people portrayed like her - on one hand she held on to staying true to her husbands memories etc , but obviously since she has not grown in openmindedness and basic human genorisity and kindness - so people who remain narrow minded and to some extent even orthododx in thinking often have repressed emotions too .

So on one hand all the reasons you outline hold, the fact that her remaining true to her husband's memories has not also made her a more open hearted human being (who's love and sorrow have not moved her to a more deeper and humane understanding of relationships) also suggests that while she did what she thought was the 'right thing' , over the years there might have been other desires and needs in face of loneliness, which might have been constantly repressed and led to perversly a degree of self righteousness where she cant stomach the idea of a village girl and a divorcee moving on in life like this with her own ladla ...it could be a mix of self righteousness, repression , envy , obsessive love for shiv ( which becomes even more pronounced in single mothers sometimes)...

Unlike anandi - she's not shown with that core of basic unadultered goodness - which would have made annadi welcome these developments if roles were reversed . Afterall - its what we make of ourselves and our lives through our experiences - of love, loss, life ...that makes all that difference . CM 's behaviour betrays the complex emotions of an ordinary woman - with leanings on the conservative side...
Edited by sarandha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#62
Anjana...i lovely analysis 👏

CM's character has confused me...her concern for Shiv...confirming it from Anandi that she will never hurt Shiv is fine for me..and i can totally understand it..but what about her forcing Anandi to think again about her past life & those moments?..'u will not be able to move on' type statements? 😕 i really did not understand it, did not liked it too!

she is comparing anandi's life with her life which is very wrong and not only that, but also she is asking anandi to re-think about her marriage with shiv and to go back & live at her past, like CM herself is living in her past till now! 😳 very regressive mentality i think...the world will change but i will remain at my past...people who refuse to change their thinking with time i don consider them as living people 😆..that is why i like DS so much now, bcoz she has learned from her past mistakes and she has changed

not sure if this regressive mentality of CM is only because shiv is her family..if so then that is also wrong! we often support re-marriage of divorcee\widow when happen in other's life..but when it comes to our life or in our family member's life, the same we became conservative! may be CM is that kind of a person..who is actually not progressive from inside...but show off her as the one! 🤔

but as of now i don want to come to any conclusion..for me till now CM is a positive character, who is a blind mother..though she has irritated me a lot in Friday's episode! 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#63
I liked everything you wrote mona except CM being positive...I just think she is STUPID...

When shiv is going to find out... she will realize what blunder she has done...for the FIRST TIME i did not even want to watch the episode of BV again... GRR hated her and her fake smile and fake concern


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Posted: 13 years ago
#64
In media management, we are taught of a basic principle...ITS NOT WHAT YOU SAY...ITS ABOUT HOW YOU SAY IT...
I, for one, totally believe that CM's intentions were not that bad in asking Anandi...but the way she voiced them was cruel and ridiculous...She hasnt been thru a broken relationship...she is a widow...but I am sure Shiv will fix her brains...she needs that!
At such an old age, she doesnt even have the morality and maturity to deal with people half of her age! Thats education!!!???
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Posted: 13 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: hooked

Shiv has told her nicely to have faith in him and his choice, but she refused. Now she just has to be told firmly and she shud also understand that she risks alienating Shiv with this kind of nastiness.

In Jodha-Akbar, do u remember how Akbar's nurse claimed she was doing everything for his own good ? And do you remember what happened when Akbar found out about her schemes ? Hope the same happens to CM. Hope Shiv just blasts her out.


really never thought about it...nice comparison..👏

yes..u r so right to make us think once again about CM's character..in jodha-akhbar too akhbar's "dayi ma" did the same! but the difference is akhbar's dayi ma never smiled while doing it...and here CM is doing it with a smiling face, specially when she is with her family! 😉...very hard to recognize her real face 🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suchi-Virmanian

I liked everything you wrote mona except CM being positive...I just think she is STUPID...


When shiv is going to find out... she will realize what blunder she has done...for the FIRST TIME i did not even want to watch the episode of BV again... GRR hated her and her fake smile and fake concern

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LOL..chill Suchi 😛...i was also superb irritated last friday...but DW, CM will be goody goody one day bcoz of Anandi, her goodness will make her become good again..

DS has changed...so CM will also change i hope 😳

but i don think shiv will find this incident so easily..only if CM will say him then only he will find out this..and i think CM will hide this 🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I just wanted to add some more to what I have already said in my earlier post.

While I was watching this episode I couldn't help but remember the phone conversation between Sumi and Shiv.

Both were not birth mothers of Shiv or Anandi.Both love them like they are their own children and both are concerned about the happiness of the children they brought up.But the similarity ended there.
Sumi was very apprehensive about Shiv as she had not met him and she had only information from DS and B.That phone conversation with Shiv is the only direct contact she had.
Sumi conveyed to Shiv how precious is Anandi to her how Anandi's happiness is important to her in such a beautiful way and the way she conveyed her expectations from Shiv was done so beautifully.

Same cannot be said about CM.Her concern may have been right but she refused to let go of her preformed opinions about Anandi and also did not want to see what is in front of her. The fact that her family members thought differently from her also did not change her mind.

She had every right to tell Anandi that Shiv's happiness is very important to her and she expected Anandi to work at making Shiv happy if she had been just concerned about Shiv's happiness and had doubts about Anandi's ability to make Shiv happy.

But the fact that she did say that way only tells us that she has closed her mind against Anandi.

One more thing I don't think it will be right to make comparisions between CM and DS.
DS has accepted A who was chosen by her son as a bride for J with open arms.But the fact that her methods to bring in equality into J and A relationship backfired is a different story altogether.




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Posted: 13 years ago
#68
yes i liked what some oen said above " it is not what you say, it is how you say it that matters ".
apart from the show i think this line is very practical in real lfe too.
CM pushign anandi to accept a loose r husband back is just plain wrong. maybe in her brain anandi is a second hand material, her virtues notwithstanding.
if thats teh case , she is a complete mean person.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#69
@Fuzzface - I agree with you...as I have myself previously noted...S is J 2.0 (J 2.0 of the Jugya we loved not Jugat) and this new marriage is BV 2.0. So, mini-vamps/obstacles are needed and expected in this new rishta. Be it CM ya Sanchi. It can't all be roses. That said, CM and DS are similar but, different. DS was the family mukhia perpetuating old traditions, she herself was stuck in. Meeno is not the mukia here of Shekhar family...so, her beh is passive aggressive as well as regressive. She is stuck in her own history not just traditional beliefs despite the "progressive" sari...

On the upside, Anandi is Anandi 2.0...so, lets see how she tackles Closed Mind
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#70
CM to me seems a very stubborn n opinionated lady. she was coaxed so many times in her youth to marry again but she did not that shows how much ziddi she is. theother thing i feel that she is gender biased as shiv is a male she thinks he has every right to get a new unused nayi naveli bride with no baggage.

i understand her view to some extent but if shiv as an sensible adult has made his dcision n chosen anandi then why is she saying all this to anandi ???

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