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Posted: 13 years ago
#31
@brickred -- yes. just saying "job" is really ridiculous and very vague.
i think they should have discussed the position and the hierarchy too. you are absolutely right.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: akvats01



I little bit disagree with you views
For the red one..For the red one. She could have not stoped Jagat to talk to HR. second She has given a reason, that his impression will be going for toss if he would ask immediate transfer.. This will not get down, from thought of working people, who knows policies...
First she says: You have not yet joined completely... THis is never the case. The moment he reported this morning , he joined completely.. If he want to resign now he need to go through the process of resignation. It means his joining is complete.
Asking transfer for a sensitive matter like this, is always taken a consideration. HR will not only consider the request of transer, S/He would do it on immediate basis.
Third : Not only Jagat, She would have herself requested for transfer of her husband tosome other senior doctor.. Her request would be given immediate consideration. as it is personnel issue, which may impact productivity of team...
Fourth: Starting uder his wife, and then shifting to another doctor, every body would have known The coplexities of their relation. It is better if he start under other doctor, No personnel life will come infront and in work...
If Gauri does not wnat to transfer Jagat, even then if Jagya apply for the transfer, Jagya may be in trouble. as gauri is her assigned senior.
Now jagya want transfer, But Gauri brainwashed him. if Jagya still initiate the transfer process, He may get in trouble. But Gauri is not in Bechari condition. She may initiate the transfer. this would save their personneland professional lives..


just about d transfer matter...gauri is absolutely correct in stopping jagat...

i belong 2 d field & have experienced dis first hand...transfer requests r not dealt with very kindly...a lot of planning & tight schedules r based on it...& in d medical field as docs generally find partners within dere profession...dis is actually a very very common scenario...partners working together or assisting each oder...& a reason like dis shudnt at all be given...why cant u work under a more qualified doctor??..bcoz she happens 2 b ur wife??...if dere wud have been a role reversal den??...its perfectly acceptable for wife 2 work under husband but not d vice versa?...

anyway watever personal issues r dere...dey r not entertained in d medical profession...if sum1 cant keep dere personal & professional lives separate...den dats dere problem...not d organization employing dem...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: brick_red

It would have been much easier for both J & G, if they had a heart to heart conversation regarding the post and salary offered and how that particular post works in that hospital. Isn't it common sense to find about the post and typical reporting hierarchy from somebody before starting the work . Anyway this couple defy all logic !! The way they both withholf information from each other is like, they are two strangers living together !!

Ya you are right! They are having too many issues and too many secrets from each other. It is not a sign of a healthy relationship.
Edited by avantikasharma1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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just about d transfer matter...gauri is absolutely correct in stopping jagat...

i belong 2 d field & have experienced dis first hand...transfer requests r not dealt with very kindly...a lot of planning & tight schedules r based on it...& in d medical field as docs generally find partners within dere profession...dis is actually a very very common scenario...partners working together or assisting each oder...& a reason like dis shudnt at all be given...why cant u work under a more qualified doctor??..bcoz she happens 2 b ur wife??...if dere wud have been a role reversal den??...its perfectly acceptable for wife 2 work under husband but not d vice versa?...

anyway watever personal issues r dere...dey r not entertained in d medical profession...if sum1 cant keep dere personal & professional lives separate...den dats dere problem...not d organization employing dem...
But could there be issues of favouritism or ego-hurting? I mean the way Gauri went on to say," I have asked you something Jagat. I think you are lost somewhere". Her statement sounds valid as a senior, but to her husband? 😲 And the real problem, if she is polite with him, then either she has to become less authoritative with other juniors or take accusation of favouritism.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sen_madhuban

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anyway watever personal issues r dere...dey r not entertained in d medical profession...if sum1 cant keep dere personal & professional lives separate...den dats dere problem...not d organization employing dem...

I think you are very right.
If the man is feeling inferior and emasculated because he is reporting to his wife, then this is his own issue and not the issue of the organization.
So if he is not strong enough to deal with it, then he should take an appropriate decision for himself and quit the job altogether...instead of asking HR at SNG to help him circumvent the reporting structure.
To the extent that it is about one spouse reporting to the other, HR may have policies that are gender neutral in nature to ensure that favouritism and bias are not shown by the supervisory spouse to the subordinate spouse.
But to get into issues of a man not feeling good about reporting to his wife because of inferiority complex issues or broader issues of how it looks or how it places him in front of his friends is not the lookout of the organization... that is the man's personal lookout.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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gauri humesha jagya ko unneccesaary interupt karti hai .mujhe nahi lagta ki agar jagat kisi doosre dipartment mein chala jaata to gauri ka koi nuksaan hota
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: surabhi01

gauri humesha jagya ko unneccesaary interupt karti hai .mujhe nahi lagta ki agar jagat kisi doosre dipartment mein chala jaata to gauri ka koi nuksaan hota

But for this, jagat jo bhi reason deta, woh kharab lagta. unprofessional. so she stopped him.
There was no legitimate reason per se except "I dont want to work under my wife."
It would make him a laughingstock, I think.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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There is nothing wrong with jagat seeking a transfer, but he has to do it intelligently and on professional grounds not on personal grounds of "i cant work under my wife"...
He should quickly identify a doctor other than gauri whom he admires, and whose field he wants to be a surgeon in... and should approach HR with a pitch as to why it would professionally be a better match for him to work with another doctor's team and how his interests are a better fit with that surgeon's team...
Then he can tell HR -- Dr. Gauri supervises eye surgeries, but i am more inclined towards orthopedic surgery and so i will be a better fit for that team/department. HR will also find this reason acceptable.
He has to justify his decision, not rationalize it. ⭐️
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

But for this, jagat jo bhi reason deta, woh kharab lagta. unprofessional. so she stopped him.
There was no legitimate reason per se except "I dont want to work under my wife."
It would make him a laughingstock, I think.

At least in his mind he is one, even now. 🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: avantikasharma1

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At least in his mind he is one, even now. 🤣

Yes, but he has to weigh in what situation he is a bigger laughing stock.
does he want to look bad in front of hr (by requesting a transfer)... or does he want to look bad in front of his friends (by working for gauri)...or does he want to look bad in front of gauri (by quitting the job)
In life, it will not always be a choice between something good and something bad. In that case the choice would be easy for us.
We may also only have options which are all things that dont suit us. So we have to choose which would be the least of all the evils.

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