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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: avantikasharma1

Anandi can treat it as a past!! What can you do if Shiv decides Ashi is not right for him. I am not saying Anandi should try to break their relation. I am just thinking that shiv may fall for Anandi. Now to think that man or woman may not have partners before meeting Mr/ Miss right is not reasonable? Right?

OMG , I fear after that , A may bash Shiv like nothing. She may compare the situation with hers, As J left her for G, DC is leaving Ashi for her.. 😡
She may compare herself being another gauri to Ashi.. Thouhgh it is before marriage, But still she may compare on basis of Love..
as far as I believe , atleast in this life she wont allow herself being another gauri to some other girl...
And Yes as will she be able to accept shiv after seeing , as Ashi is not maintaining any distance from Shiv. will she not be able to see it herself. You remember, G had seen many things from her own eyes but still ignored it, Will A be able to do that?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: akvats01

Aanandi aur kisi nayi bandi ko best friend banayegi.. Aaj tak phooli se to batein chupati hai madame.. !!😡

Don't worry dear I am sure it will be Anandi at the end! I know you are very concerned 😊. In fact a handsome guy like Shiv must have a girlfriend. It is so unrealistic to think he may not have someone in his life unless until he is too workholic, unapproachable type. 😆😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: akvats01

OMG , I fear after that , A may bash Shiv like nothing. She may compare the situation with hers, As J left her for G, DC is leaving Ashi for her.. 😡
She may compare herself being another gauri to Ashi.. Thouhgh it is before marriage, But still she may compare on basis of Love..
as far as I believe , atleast in this life she wont allow herself being another gauri to some other girl...
And Yes as will she be able to accept shiv after seeing , as Ashi is not maintaining any distance from Shiv. will she not be able to see it herself. You remember, G had seen many things from her own eyes but still ignored it, Will A be able to do that?

But why the forum is equating dating with marriage? I am sure Ashi will not be able to live with someone who is no longer in love with her. You cannot force love. If Anandi does that ( asks him to leave), and Shiv truly loves her he will wait for her. A is not coming in between a marriage! All our Bollywood movies are made on this priniciple! And since Anandi is not in love with Shiv right now, she can see them sitting together.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: avantikasharma1

Don't worry dear I am sure it will be Anandi at the end! I know you are very concerned 😊. In fact a handsome guy like Shiv must have a girlfriend. It is so unrealistic to think he may not have someone in his life unless until he is too workholic, unapproachable type. 😆😆

he he he he he 😊😊😊😊 Yes !! Well said.. 😃
and if it is not Anandi at the end, Why will CV's spend so much money on Sid and new team members... 😉😉😉😉.
Cost cutting ke jamane mein hire kar rahe hian, to kuch to achca karenge hee... 😆😆😆😆
Bas thoda patience nahi ho raha, 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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akvats01: But honestly tell me is dating and marriage same. I think intimacy in todays relationships have increased. The difference in marriage and dating is that marriage is commitment, dating is a risk. You are trying to know and find out about other person. I realize that in the west and in India, intimacy before marriage is increasing. But does dating necessarily lead to marriage? What is wrong if Shiv decides to choose Anandi over Ashi. A marriage cannot be broken because its commitment but putting dating on the same footing. many people break up after 3-4 years of being together. I am not sure. I wouldn't mind if Shiv falls in love with Anandi. but I will prefer one sided crush of Ashi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: avantikasharma1

akvats01: But honestly tell me is dating and marriage same. I think intimacy in todays relationships have increased. The difference in marriage and dating is that marriage is commitment, dating is a risk. You are trying to know and find out about other person. I realize that in the west and in India, intimacy before marriage is increasing. But does dating necessarily lead to marriage? What is wrong if Shiv decides to choose Anandi over Ashi. A marriage cannot be broken because its commitment but putting dating on the same footing. many people break up after 3-4 years of being together. I am not sure. I wouldn't mind if Shiv falls in love with Anandi. but I will prefer one sided crush of Ashi.

Yes I understood the point.

Now I would ask following questions, you decide what is wrong or right for you. It may differ person to person.
How an extra marrital affair is different then dating?
If dating happenes after marriage, it is extra marital affair
if in a dating after marriage , you find that you do not get along with your spouce and the new one is better ; then
1 on a mutual agreement with the first partner you perform formality of divorce, leave the first partner, marry new one, is it wrong or right?
2 You decide to leave first partner, tell the first partner without formal divorce and marry new one , Then is it right or wrong?

If dating happenes before marriage , and later the partners marry a different people, Then dating becomes a trend .. ( No matter if the seperation is on mutual agreement)
If dating happenes before marriage , and then the partners marry each other : it is true love.

Now my personnel views:
I do not see any difference when it comes to seperation between two. Pain is same , either the partners are married or not. In marriage , a partner can claim, but before marriage a partner can not claim. But for this it is essential that atleast one of the partner is seriously engaged in the relation ship. On the basis of same, I have writen , that A wil see the pain of Ashi, and probably may think that she has come in between. While your POV is also very decent, If A asks him to leave, and if he in love with A , he can wait for A to come.
When I merge yours and my POV, this is how I see it..
The same may be termed as right or wrong after seeing if Ashi is a one sided love or this guy has encouraged her in these thoughts.
If Ashi is pure one sided love and has come here just to figure out the possibilities, eventually she finds that there are no possibilities, then Shiv have no role to play in this. But if shiv has given hopes to her then it definetly makes a point of question.
My concern for the Track :
I am also unhappy because, Shiv is allowing her to touch and hug. Though hug was all of a sudden, but it need courage and confident to hug some one like this. This confidence would have been provided by Shiv only, .. But He may definetly communicate to maintain distance by his gestures, He is not doing the same. As opposite he is comfertable on all these.
In today's promo he was shown lil shocked but , not for the hug. only for she hugged him Infront of the team in village. Where he is the top most officer in the office. So his gestures are not against what she is doing, its is just that things are happening in front of his team.
That is why I am so unhappy. He could have stoped her by his gestures, if he was not involved.
D.C. The word "you" is to imply a general being, as a noun, Not as pronuon , for the person who is reading.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: akvats01

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The same may be termed as right or wrong after seeing if Ashi is a one sided love or this guy has encouraged her in these thoughts. If Ashi is pure one sided love and has come here to figure out the possibilities then eventually she finds that there are no possibilities, Shiv have no role to play on this. But if shiv has given hopes to her then it definetly makes a point of question.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 very well written!! I love the way you have articulated your thoughts.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: avantikasharma1

akvats01: But honestly tell me is dating and marriage same. I think intimacy in todays relationships have increased. The difference in marriage and dating is that marriage is commitment, dating is a risk. .

Here's the deal -- I think the line between dating and marriage blurs the longer dating goes on.
If you date someone for three dates and realize "whoa! this is so wrong for me"... then there is nothing wrong with dumping someone after three dates. There is no commitment.
But if one has dated someone for five years, I think then there is little difference between dating and marriage. It *is* almost a marriage for all intents and purposes, because the relationship is there and it has not yet been formalized or provided a legal stamp.
But my own posts on this subject really have nothing to do with ethics avantika.
I am just saying that i would not feel comfortable being with someone when there was already a visual image in my mind of him hugging someone else or kissing someone else in front of my eyes. If it happened before he met me, then well be it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@akvats: I can understand about pain aspect. Then was Gauri's decision wrong? She too will feel the same pain of separation.
Marriage is giving someone commitment. Saying you are the last person in my life. Dating is on a different footing altogether. Its trying to understand the other person. It may or may not lead to marriage. I give you some examples from movies, tell me they are right or not:
Dil Chhata hai: Preity Zinta is engaged. On the eve of her marriage she decides to marry Aamir. Right or wrong. Right.
Because she is not married or his wife. Mind you her fiance was in her life before she met Aamir
Jaane tu na jaane na: Throughout the film Imran Khan is involved with his gf. But at the last moment he decides he doesn't love her. Right or wrong. Right. He is not commited to her.
Kabhi Alvida na kehna: Rani decides to cheat on her husband and settle with Shahrukh. Wrong. Both Shahrukh and Rani are wrong because they were committed.
There is lot difference in dating, marriage and extra martial affair. I am sure as the series progresses you will see differences between ashi and Shiv and their breakup. May be then it is easy for you to accept Shiv liking Anandi. One more thing why did you say dating becomes trend if break up happens before marriage?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: avantikasharma1

Dil Chhata hai: Preity Zinta is engaged. On the eve she decides to marry Aamir. Right or wrong. Right.
Because she is not married or his wife. Mind you her fiance was in her life before she met Aamir
Jaane tu na jaane na: Throughout the film Imran Khan is involved with his gf. But at the last moment he decides he doesn't love her. Right or wrong. Right. He is not commited to her.

I have not seen either of these two movies, so I dont know what is the overall context of what you are saying. But based on the one line descriptions you have written above, I dont agree that either of these are Right.
It is just a matter of perspective. I am not saying that they should continue into marriage with someone whom they are no longer in love with ... but at the same time, both scenarios seem to reek of bad taste because of the timing of their breakup.
I think there is a difference between emotional commitment and legal commitment.
It seems to me to be a breach of contract of the emotional commitment particularly if both parties carried on their so-called love and dating for a really lengthy period of time because they misled the other party or else they just used the other person as 'time pass' or as a placeholder until a person whom they thought was truly compatible with them came along.
For me to pass an ethical judgment, I'd really have to see the movie.
But I think, unless something really big event came about which brought home clearly to the other party that there was a real big difference of values between the two of them, it is wrong for them to ditch each other purely on the grounds of "falling out of love" and finding a new person to "fall in love".
But as I said, value systems are subjective.
and I think in evaluating the situation, I would not just consider the one side of Preity Zinta or Imran Khan ... but I would also consider what understanding their significant others had of the relationship. Obviously Zinta's fiance thought he was in a committed relationship... and the Khan guy assumed it too?
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