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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tinoo - You can have your own ideas on what a child can expect of his/her parents in terms of
- no choice in being born
- no choice in customs of the land (ie - bal vivah)
- no choice in the finances of the house (rich or poor)
- no choice in the kind of parents on gets (ie - Gauri's wonderful Mom)

But the way things work atleast in old cultures - and I mean India specifically when I say so - is that

A Parent usually provides the best he can for the kid and loves and cares and provides for them till they get married. At the same time - they also care for their old parents and keep them involved - thus setting an example for how the aged need to be kept close, respected and cared for. The aged in turn - provide guidance and foresight if they see something going wrong. Other times they provide extra love and affection to the kids coz parents can sometimes feel a little rushed and impatient.

Here - Jagya was given whatever any other kid in that position wud be given in similar circumstances. Most kids then got married at 8-10 yrs in those villages so Bhairon cannot be said to have "purposely ruined J's life". Bhairon lives with his mom and respects her and her decisions.

Jagya
- chose to follow a profession of his liking
- chose to move away to pursue his dream
- chose to try to fit in the new place by hiding his background
- chose to return affections of another girl KNOWING he was not single.
- chose to keep mum to his GF, wife n parents about this dilemma

When finally it all tumbled out and G threatened to leave - he chose to marry her w/o even consulting a lawyer or informing his parents or wife.

And now - having done nothing but take take take from his family - he wants them to gift him a huge section of the properety that he has done nothing to look after or maintain ?
He has not even bothered to be respectful to his parents or care for their pain and has just hung his head everytime he wanted to be accepted ?

Why wud I like my own child if I can see he likes me only for what I can give more ? Bhairon shud threaten to drag J's sorry ass to jail for bigamy.

I have no complaints with G this time - as she is a rank outsider. She is just an instigator - the stupidity of accepting her logic lies with J and he shud suffer the consequences of his line of thought and actions.

Being my own person with my own choices and my own free will is all very well but only after you have dealt with your due obligations. True - u don't get to chose yr circumstances but that is life. He was not born an orphan and thus he has to cater to the family that bore him. He is from a Village in India and he just has to deal with it.

He is NOT in US or any other place where expectations from kids are a little different. There - parents too don't provide very much except a loving household till you're a teen. You have to get your own college loan and in school times, work for your pocket money. There no one sends you money for sustenance of your married life and pregnant girl friend either.

Edited by hooked - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes hooked how true you are In US and west once you are an adult you are expected to fend for your own self. Nobody provides for your family, like in case of Jagiya and pregnant Gauri. Lets not take a leaf from U.S, lets take the entire tree !
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tinoo, u hv mentioned a lot of fault of Bhairaw, but bhairaw didn't break his tie with this looser whn he decided to go for Ms, broking their all hopes, which was made by Jogia himself. Yes he was just disappointed, which was quite natural and he hs rit for it
He broke his relation and become against Jogia only, whn he came to know abt his cheating and thn his great karnama. I can only appreciate him for this tht he didn't behaved like typical father but a justice loving human being. Everybody do mistakes, but we sd.appreciate if a person trying to correct his mistakes, exactly Wht bhairaw is doing. As concern to black mailing, I think anything demanding, which is not urs by using the situation is call black mailing. I hope CVs will slap on such black mailer called Jogia.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankit111

. Yes he was just disappointed, which was quite natural and he hs rit for it
He broke his relation and become against Jogia only, whn he came to know abt his cheating and thn his great karnama. I .

Yes, this aspect escaped me. You are right. He was just disappointed when jagya left ... infact he supported jagya too, by telling dadisa and basant that jagya should indeed specialise and not remain MBBS doctor.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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it is totally blackmailing.see in which tone jagya is talking to his parents
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I guess I agree with you to an extent Tinoo. I mean his parents broke relations with him why? Because he cheated them all cheated Anandi b saying he wanted to marry another woman and did so. But I don't think the Singhs have any right to be angry with him for breaking the marrriage. They can be angry with him only for the way he did it. I've lways wondered if the Singhs would have still ditched him had he stated nicely before the marriage that he wanted an amicable divorce because he did not love Anandi he loved Gauri and didn't agree to child marriage. Would they have stood by him then or would they have kicked him out?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

I guess I agree with you to an extent Tinoo. I mean his parents broke relations with him why? Because he cheated them all cheated Anandi b saying he wanted to marry another woman and did so. But I don't think the Singhs have any right to be angry with him for breaking the marrriage. They can be angry with him only for the way he did it. I've lways wondered if the Singhs would have still ditched him had he stated nicely before the marriage that he wanted an amicable divorce because he did not love Anandi he loved Gauri and didn't agree to child marriage. Would they have stood by him then or would they have kicked him out?


Had the CV's decided to explore that option - this serial wud have taken a very different turn. then it wud have been about - is a shadi for life ?

Now it is about - what happens to a child bride when the kids grow up and the guy wants someone else.

Even then - the Singhs wud have felt duty bound to provide and support for the the little girl they brought home as a DIL, and they wud have actively raised a voice against child marriages. And maybe - Jagya wudn't have got got a bad rap and Gauri cud have stayed gray or white and not so clearly pitch black.😆.

But currently, what they are showing is probably more real than the ideal situation you have proposed. They guy wud know his family won't like his change of mind and he wud eventually resort to some degree of fraud.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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oh god please help me sanya ke itne sweet sweet logic padh ke to main behosh ho jaa aaongi.btw sanya jagya parents has fully right to break their relationship with jagya beause he cheated that anandi who saved their son life in child hood and anandi is about to going to die .so how could u think parents of jagya will forget the sacrifice made by anandi and appreciate jagya for cheating anandi.i know u will say that he is their own son and anandi is their daughter in law but thats not the logic
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: hooked


Had the CV's decided to explore that option - this serial wud have taken a very different turn. then it wud have been about - is a shadi for life ?

Now it is about - what happens to a child bride when the kids grow up and the guy wants someone else.

Even then - the Singhs wud have felt duty bound to provide and support for the the little girl they brought home as a DIL, and they wud have actively raised a voice against child marriages. And maybe - Jagya wudn't have got got a bad rap and Gauri cud have stayed gray or white and not so clearly pitch black.😆.

But currently, what they are showing is probably more real than the ideal situation you have proposed. They guy wud know his family won't like his change of mind and he wud eventually resort to some degree of fraud.




But would the Singhs have acknowledged their mistake in that case of performing the child marriage? Would they have set him free without anger knowing that it was their mistake in the first place? I mean when Jogia told Bhairav he wanted to marry Gauri what did he do? Immediately broke the hospital and all of its equipment and then disowned Jogia. Would he have done that still if Jogia had approached them before?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: surabhi01

oh god please help me sanya ke itne sweet sweet logic padh ke to main behosh ho jaa aaongi.btw sanya jagya parents has fully right to break their relationship with jagya beause he cheated that anandi who saved their son life in child hood and anandi is about to going to die .so how could u think parents of jagya will forget the sacrifice made by anandi and appreciate jagya for cheating anandi.i know u will say that he is their own son and anandi is their daughter in law but thats not the logic



No I wasn't going to say any such thing because I really appreciate those are in-laws that love their DIL as much as their son. Please do not assume such things clearly shows you don't know the way I think😊 So just because Anandi saved his life in childhood do his parents expect him to stick by a relation he isnt happy in? Isn't that a dhoka to Anandi too to have to live with a man who does not love her? Why should the parents expect him to stick by the marriage they put him into as a child? When one does not even UNDERSTAND the meaning of marriage?

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