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tinoo

@tinoo

Rocker

Posted: 13 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: vasuja
He did nothing to prove he loved Anandi or Gauri other than sleeping with them.

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stuti..

@stuti..

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Posted: 13 years ago

#42

Hello Tinoo,

Thanks for the appreciation. By necessities, I am rendered irregular on replies. Please overlook the tardiness or some missed response sometimes. In fact, started posting recently only. Though I joined about a year earlier, I enjoyed reading some good reflections here or there- mostly in mute mode! Wishing you a happy workday...

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tanvismile

@tanvismile

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 13 years ago

#43

see i m nt saying he is become perfect ,but he has changed a lot frm earlier,the kind of attitude he had,the way he lived king size life ,n here how he adjusting to situations,he is doin a lot of things which he never did.First i doubted whether he wil able live to with g,becoz g is nt like A who listen to him al the time,but he proved me wrong ,most of people said that j ka koi barosa nahi,his sacha pyar wil change with time but he proved us wrong.He has been veryadjusting, understanding towards g,although that quality was nt part of nature.

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hooked

@hooked

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#44

Honestly - I think Tanvi is just having a big laugh 😆 at all our efforts trying to prove that J and G are selfish people who have no concept of real love or shame.

Just look at us - we are justifying, on so many threads, to the best of our reasoning, why we think these two are selfish thru and thru and they will lie and cheat even to each other as long as it suits them to do so. And they already are doing that too - despite this - Tanvi is able to sympathize with them and see their LOVE n UNDERSTANDING n REASONING n HURT n she is not able to see any of those qualities in the rest of the Haveli members and especially not in Anandi.

Kya fayda ? It seems like - the value system is a bit skewed here n no amount of explaining or giving examples is going to change that.

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vaishali

@vaishali667

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#45

Originally posted by vasuja

He did nothing to prove he loved Anandi or Gauri other than sleeping with them .

u r absolutely correct

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tanvismile

@tanvismile

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 13 years ago

#46

hooked -wat hapend?dnt have more answer.i dnt think haveli people r evil,but the discusion abt j n g,right.isnt it true the fact people said j wil change sides as per his convinience,dint he prove ul wrong,see if u have already entered a bad image in mind then no matter ul find faults.now becoz u l dnt have anything to speak so end discusion

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tinoo

@tinoo

Rocker

Posted: 13 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: tanvismile
s.First i doubted whether he wil able live to with g,becoz g is nt like A who listen to him al the time,but he proved me wrong ,most of people said that j ka koi barosa nahi,his sacha pyar wil change with time but he proved us wrong.He has been veryadjusting, understanding towards g,although that quality was nt part of nature.

All the time he is doing housework and cooking with G, he remembers A.

What good is the action of washing dishes as an act of understanding towards G if he remembers a washing dishes?

What good is the action of eating sandwiches sitting across table from g, while all the time cursing the sandwiches that she has made and remember full meal cooked by anandi pouring extra ghee on it.

what good is the action of cooking gatte ki sabji with g, when he remembers a?

if he is sitting next to gauri, and a bug crawls across the floor, he starts laughing at a memory of anandi when a bug crawled on the floor. even something silly like bug crawling reminds him of anandi.

if he is eating paratha and oily breakfast, he is remembering anandi.

yes his actions are all in the right place ... but his mind is with his legal wife. Even if he never goes back to anandi, can his daydreaming about anandi while being with gauri be considered a sign of sachcha pyaar?

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payalgarg

@payalgarg

Navigator

Posted: 13 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: tanvismile
see i m nt saying he is become perfect ,but he has changed a lot frm earlier,the kind of attitude he had,the way he lived king size life ,n here how he adjusting to situations,he is doin a lot of things which he never did.First i doubted whether he wil able live to with g,becoz g is nt like A who listen to him al the time,but he proved me wrong ,most of people said that j ka koi barosa nahi,his sacha pyar wil change with time but he proved us wrong.He has been veryadjusting, understanding towards g,although that quality was nt part of nature.

hasne khelne masssti karne ke liye gauri aur dukhra rona ho to stilll he wants anandi.phir chahe bheek maangni ho aisssh se jeene ke liye apni rakhail ke saath😆 ya phir birthday par gharwalo ke phone nahi karne ka dukh baatna ho ya phir apni rakhail ki sehat ke baare ho poochna ho(I still cant believe he did that🤣) for all the things that hold relevance and true value of one human being for another,he always wants anandi.whenever he needs somebody he always wants anandi.Isnt this what we actually call sacha pyaar?

Gauri is just for fun...rakhail and she deserves that...kash wo gauri ko bache ke saath badi si kick maar ke ghar se nikale aur phir Jagya ko waisi hi kick Anandi maare...maza aa jaayega😆

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doyel

@doyelpakhi

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#49

I did not get the chance to read all the posts - but I would like to say few things regarding Jagya's "acceptance" of Anandi at 18

Now this is a dicy matter.

Even after Anandi went to her parents, J used to come to her village to look at her chupke chupke

So, why did he do that? Was he really romantically involved with Anandi? Or was it because he was told that Anandi is his beendni and this conditioning made him accept Anandi as his beendni.

If we keep J aside for a while and focus on Anandi - why does she love him so much? Why does she made J as her life?

Yes, they were best friends in childhood but best friends always don't turn lovers. Being best friends does not mean one has to think each other as husband or wife.

So what made Anandi accept him as her husband when the man is completely opposite to her nature? Because she was already married to J.

Anandi got married in childhood to J; he became her best friend; she was separated from J for 5 years - if they were not married with each other, would Anandi have started consider J as her husband just on the basis of their childhood friendship?

The crux of the matter is - BOTH were conditioned to accept each other as beend and beendni since childhood.

Anandi never asked herself what kind of man she would want in her life. She accepted J as he is because she is already married to him.

Similarly, J, while growing up, accepted A as his beendni. It's NOT that, out of the blue, he decides that he is going to accept Anandi as his wife. At 18, Jagya was NOT given a choice whether he accepts Anandi or not as his beendni. It was told to him since childhood, that A is his beendni.

Only difference is - Anandi's conditioning or rather brainwash was complete. J's was not.

J's desire for a city girl and his attraction towards city life was evident in number of cases, even before he went to Mumbai or met Gauri.

When he went to mumbai and met Gauri, he got what HE actually wanted. So he easily left A

Regarding the conditioning of J and A, the Singhs and A's parents are the real culprits. They denied the basic fundamental right of a person to choose one own's life partner. They tried to condition J and A to accept each other as beend and beendni without letting them use their own intelligence.

If J has insulted A's love, if he has cheated and lied, then the Singhs have taken away fundamental rights from their children's lives. If J has flouted laws, his and A's parents broke law by marrying off their children. Infact the Singhs broke law twice - in case of Sugna and then J.

Unfortunately, the Singhs are presented in such a way, that not even the audience understand what a mess their decision has created in the lives of others.

As far as JG relationship is concerned, J has been shown cooking for G happily - we have heard that he helps G in household chores. But it does not mean every time he remembers A. Definitely, if we are thrown into a situation which was worse than our past, we will think about past but that does NOT mean he will dump G very easily.

J has tolerated many of G's tantrums; he still takes care of her; he is doing household chores for sake of G - if G would have been his mere infatuation, he would have left G after all those incidents.

But J did not do so. So G is J's choice which he made after understanding what relationships are. If he had shown maturity in dealing with A and amicably came out of the relationship of childhood, J would not have turned into a villain and CVs would have sent the message more clearly.

Edited by doyelpakhi - 13 years ago

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vasuja

@vasuja

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#50

Originally posted by: tanvismile
see i m nt saying he is become perfect ,but he has changed a lot frm earlier,the kind of attitude he had,the way he lived king size life ,n here how he adjusting to situations,he is doin a lot of things which he never did.First i doubted whether he wil able live to with g,becoz g is nt like A who listen to him al the time,but he proved me wrong ,most of people said that j ka koi barosa nahi,his sacha pyar wil change with time but he proved us wrong.He has been veryadjusting, understanding towards g,although that quality was nt part of nature.

Is a successful relationship made on the basis of understanding cooking, hime chores and laundry? what is the point of relationship when none of the important and vital truths and information is not shared????What is the point if u want to share only smiles and happy things and hide all the truth and bitter things? does that make the relationship???I can never understand jaggu's so called love.

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