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Posted: 13 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: ankit111

their fualt doubled becoz they both r so called Dr. And not so called gawanr, who don't know how to take precautions 😆 😆

exactly they r dhabba on name of doctors khud ko sambhal nahin sakte doosron ko kyaa theek akrenge😆😆 i was rofling when g was saying yeh sab kaise 😆😆she was behaving like an ablaa naari😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#52
The word "consequences" make a baby sound like Punishment. And that is insulting for a baby.

My point is---a baby should be welcomed, not had out of majboori.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ intruderfast: A baby needs their mother at all times, so giving him/her to parents to be cared for is not a good idea.

Also, its does not make sense to "wait" until a certain period. They're married, why should they wait?

Also, you cannot always refrain when you're living together. That's impractical.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: .Vrish.


Somehow, the maroon parts of your statement put you squarely on the pro-life side - people who have your stance on abortion are in the pro-life camp, not the pro-choice. It therefore seems to contradict your green statement above, even incorporating the but that follows.



vrish: excellent points. Yes in US the issue is much more controversial. However, let me clarify one thing. I oppose the pro-life group, not because of their views, but because they want to implement their views as laws. That is where I think we should protest. Both pro-life and pro-choice groups have a right to their opinion. I believe in certain things and will implement them in my personal life. But the problem is when I impose my personal opinion as a law and stop other people from practicing their own point of view. That is ideological oppression in a way. That is precisely why I oppose pro-life groups.It is okay to believe in the sanctity of life, it is okay to believe that a baby should not be killed, but it is NOT okay to stop someone legally if she differs from this opinion. I mentioned in the beginning of the post that it is my personal opinion----that means I will go by this set of ethics for my personal life and decisions, but I have no right to stop someone from implementing their decision. When an opinion is pushed to become a law, that is where the problem lies.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^ I second you there.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#56
Its really nice to read through this discussion. 😊

Hooked - I am so so glad that you have adopted and are an amazing person for giving everything to a child who might not have gotten a healthy life. I salute you for it. And don't worry even if your son finds out his real mother, and might feel angry/hurt at times he will know that he has two mothers one who decided to give him a better life than she could have and one who decided to give him everything that she could. In eyes of Krishn...dono hi ma ek saman hai...chale woh Yasoda ho ya Devki.. woh Yasodanandan aur Devkinandan eksaath hi kehlate hai. 😊 👏

There are so many kids who aren't adopted and there have been so many Indians (as from my knowledge) who aren't for adoption...and even though there are a lot of wrongs in US/West culture...they adopt not one but many kids. 👏 Agree there is such too much politics around abortion in US but then again which sensitive topic is not dragged in politics and played around with? So I don't consider myself pro-life/choice, post-life etc because I believe its absolutely an individual woman's choice and duniya to bolegi jo unhe bolna hai!

Of course its a WOMEN's decision...she is the only one who knows if she can or can't take care. But there are women (too sad) that are very selfish and who decide to keep or abort on mere basis of the benefits they can gain from the child. Examples - when inheritance of money is concerned, when gaining access into a group/society/family is concern, etc...these women don't really care about the baby. And I just feel too hurt when I see a kid who is completely neglected, who deserves everything but get treated like a THING instead of a human. Sure these women have the right to decide but their reasoning and thinking is just so wrong.

So I am against Gauri's abortion because I think she is capable of taking care and so what if it was unplanned there are many couples who it happens to but that doesn't mean if you are capable that you dont try. But on the same hand in the show Gauri, she is selfish and therefore I say this, she thought of achieving her aashirvad mission instead of anything else...true I wouldn't want her to be a mother, I wouldn't want a kid to have such a selfish mother so in that way I hope she does abort, at least the child wouldnt have to become a mohra for anyone.



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sayali_babes

@ intruderfast: A baby needs their mother at all times, so giving him/her to parents to be cared for is not a good idea.

Also, its does not make sense to "wait" until a certain period. They're married, why should they wait?

Also, you cannot always refrain when you're living together. That's impractical.


i am not saying wait , but they should have been careful , they r doctors for god's sake
and if they dont know how to be careful its better not do it and take unnecesaary risks
i dont think ki gaga used protection or gauri had contaceptives later(agar aisa hota toh bataate zaroor)
so i cannot support gauri's decision at all
however its a very sensitive topic and i just have told my thinking , i dont intend to impose it on anyone so chill😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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For people who are saying that Gauri should carry the baby and then give it up for adoption or that jagya should be raising the child most of the time ...

... This is one of the most sexist statements i have heard ... What you are saying is that the woman's body is some sort of item available for rent ... She doesn't want a child but the father does so she should loan out her body for 9 months, her milk for 4-5 months and then her job is done

women who give up their children for adoption immediately after birth are those who CANNOT care for a child not those who don't WANT a child.

Why are all the feminists so pro choice (or pro abortion) ?
... Because the right to your own body is the most fundamental rights of all - more the right to education/ food/ clean water etc etc ... If you do not have a say in what your own body should do, then what freedom are you talking about ?

Can you imagine if laws are passed banning abortions because the husband doesn't want one ? ... Its a down slide from thereon ... Next will be marital rape - a woman shouldn't have the right to say 'no sex' to her husband ... next what treatments can a woman say her body should be subjected to - say a woman is barren ... her husband says i want a child ... his wants but her body ... so he forces her to have IVF even if she doesn't want it (its damn painful) ... a husband has a defective organ say a kidney, wants his wife to give one ... its the least she can do to save her husband's life ... she doesn't get a choice etc etc etc

See where this will go ... The right to your own body ... that is what this is about ... A woman is not just a machine for child birth and neither is a child a punishment for a thoughtless night that one has to "suffer the consequences" as some people put it
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Posted: 13 years ago
#59
@ intruder: well, this is not about imposing beliefs on anybody, this is a Debate, as I take it? 😊 In debate what we do is criss-crossing and countering the others' view.

Well, don't you think that its a bit bold for an Indian show to openly mention the use of contraceptives? First point is that.

Secondly, what mine and all the other pro-choicers' main view is, is that a woman should have absolute control on her body and what her lifestyle permits. That is healthy both for the woman as well as for the child. An unwanted child can foster "bad-parents" problems, don't you think?
Edited by sayali_babes - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay in today's episode, Jaggu dada says "humne koi planning nahi kiya tha" I take this as a confirmation that they did not do any family planning ;)

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