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Posted: 14 years ago
#51
Excellent post woman11. It is so true that Gauri does not see what her parents did to her but is busy blaming the singh family. now she wants adhikar

her comment that she has to ask for what anandi gets so easily is ludicrous to hear!!! she has firstly married into a family where A has been for the last dozen plus years and she has just come in... as a dubious character --- second wife of manipulating cheating jagat and is already expecting that she shd hv all rights, all love and all ... wahtever!!! the absolute arrogance of that ----- this is what DS sees and says... she wont survive for long here!!

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Posted: 14 years ago
#52
Very well said Anthara, again an awesome post.

That is what bothers me because , even in a fictional show we tend to side with those who fit our morals and understanding of life. Or sympathize with those who according to us , and our judgement deserve that sympathy.

SO naturally it reflects us, as a person and what we stand for and what we support.

I used to like Gauri because
a) She fought her childhood nightmare and stood up and became a doctor.

b) She stood up against the wrongs in the college

c) She stood up for the rights of women like Anandi.


I had HUGe hopes for her, that she will come into the haveli with the attitude of revenge (be it) but , fight against the atrocities that have been committed over the women.

Anandi , Sumitra and Gehna.

She will be the unspoken voice. But she is nothing like that and we cannot blame the CVs because its the character they have created so as I have pointed before htat , if we blame the CVs according to our convinience , glorifying Gauri when she does good and cursing CVs when her character turns negative then this rule applies to every single character.

Rather we are supporting, judging a character created by the CVs that represent a group of people.

So yeah , Now I feel she is totally insensitive.
She is the Victim so as a Victim I pity her (sometimes) but not when due to her own weaknesses she is harming another victim.

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as Anthara said, YES, Its plain cruelity that one build hteir houses of dreams on other people's ruins. But thats today's reality. No one gives a crap about any one any more. Its always about Me, Me and more ME.


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Posted: 14 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: divmath


You cannot judge people you dont know ...specially based on their views on a fictional show !



@divya, my comments were not directed to you or anyone supporting GAGA. I don't think your context even arises since you have not commented about rape. I was just stating facts about how many people in real life find faults with the victims----even the rape victims too. This is hard core fact, I have seen many people I KNOW with such a mentality. If you are unaware of that, please get a reality check. I don't think you have to cry foul that I have targeted you and passed my jugement----nowhere have I mentioned that GAGA supporters think so.

Read my sentence carefully---"there are certainly some people"...does that sentence translate into "gaga supporters blame rape victims" or does that mean that "there are people in real life who blame rape victims"? It's a simple sentence, please don't read too much between the lines.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: intruderfast


yes pls stop it ,🥱 have we ever questioned or judged anandi supprters , just cos we support gaga ppl have formed opinions on us
if u dont like our responses just ignore it,have sympathy for aandi u have full right and we have also full right not to sympathise with her, to each his own



@anmol: as I told Divya, these comments were not directed to you or anyone personally. The case doesn't arise since you have not commented on rape victims and it's out of context. I was stating real life facts about how many people do blame the victim even in cases of rape. It's a hardcore reality and I referred to that. I don't think you need to see my comments as directed to you personally or anyone judging you .
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Posted: 14 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Suchi-NivReniac

Very well said Anthara, again an awesome post.

That is what bothers me because , even in a fictional show we tend to side with those who fit our morals and understanding of life. Or sympathize with those who according to us , and our judgement deserve that sympathy.

SO naturally it reflects us, as a person and what we stand for and what we support.

I used to like Gauri because
a) She fought her childhood nightmare and stood up and became a doctor.

b) She stood up against the wrongs in the college

c) She stood up for the rights of women like Anandi.


I had HUGe hopes for her, that she will come into the haveli with the attitude of revenge (be it) but , fight against the atrocities that have been committed over the women.

Anandi , Sumitra and Gehna.

She will be the unspoken voice. But she is nothing like that and we cannot blame the CVs because its the character they have created so as I have pointed before htat , if we blame the CVs according to our convinience , glorifying Gauri when she does good and cursing CVs when her character turns negative then this rule applies to every single character.

Rather we are supporting, judging a character created by the CVs that represent a group of people.

So yeah , Now I feel she is totally insensitive.
She is the Victim so as a Victim I pity her (sometimes) but not when due to her own weaknesses she is harming another victim.

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as Anthara said, YES, Its plain cruelity that one build hteir houses of dreams on other people's ruins. But thats today's reality. No one gives a crap about any one any more. Its always about Me, Me and more ME.


Extremely well said Suchi-NivReniac. at the end of this show they always quote advice or morals. It is universally understood that there is always something to be taught in a fictional piece of work, and generally the protagonist is the one who appeals to one's moral compass. AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, I feel that Gauri has already plotted against Anandi, even if it was unintentional. I am talking about the Iincident where she tried to badmouth Anandi to Jagya about A's crying to gain sympathy by asking jagya to do her dirty work of telling A to leave the room. Subconsciously she believes Anandi to be the enemy, therefore will not acknowledge the good Anandi has done for her. This fictional piece of work about CHILD MARRIAGE and now ADULTERY, definitely is a reflection of society in certain cultures.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: parri814

Unfortunately for me, some people think only they are entitled to their point of view. frankly i say if the cap fits, wear it. funny when they don't like me expressing my point of view then they cry foul and threaten to report to the moderators or threaten to leave the forum. Gourie like behavior...much????? I am just stating MY OPINION and am very much entitled to do so too. On any forum, it is expected that when you put forward an opinion , whether on a fictional piece of work or not, to be challenged, or opposed. Crying foul everytime someone disagrees is not 😭 .

MODERATOR NOTE :

@Pari - You are free to express your opinion and even express support to your favorite fictional character.But you are not allowed to drag other people into it and have them justify what should and should not be supported. If people support Jagya-Gauri. It is their choice and same goes for Anandi supporters. Please do not question why they support Ga-Ga or Anandi and whether they condone rape etc. Such instigating posts are not tolerated. Consider this a warning. Any more such posts will result in warning level being raised.

Guys, please work with each other and keep this forum friendly and a place for healthy discussions🤔

Uh oh, I'm in the doggy box now, aren't I. ok. I apologise to the GAGA supporters if I made you feel terrible.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Suchi, the serial makers need to be careful about the kind of message they are giving out to society. Yet, all they do is butcher characters, confuse issues, resort to extreme drama and shape the story as it suits their TRPs. They seem to forget that social media is an extremely powerful weapon and has immense influence on the public consciousness. Anandi, Gauri, Jagya might be fictional characters but they all stand for real life people and their problems. There have been several scholarly studies showing television does play a very important role in forming public opinion. Thus, the CVs need to be responsible for what they portray on screen. And we as viewers need to watch things critically. We can't even fathom the way the media can shape us as persons, sometimes even without us realizing it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suchi-NivReniac

Very well said Anthara, again an awesome post.

That is what bothers me because , even in a fictional show we tend to side with those who fit our morals and understanding of life. Or sympathize with those who according to us , and our judgement deserve that sympathy.

SO naturally it reflects us, as a person and what we stand for and what we support.

I used to like Gauri because
a) She fought her childhood nightmare and stood up and became a doctor.

b) She stood up against the wrongs in the college

c) She stood up for the rights of women like Anandi.


I had HUGe hopes for her, that she will come into the haveli with the attitude of revenge (be it) but , fight against the atrocities that have been committed over the women.

Anandi , Sumitra and Gehna.

She will be the unspoken voice. But she is nothing like that and we cannot blame the CVs because its the character they have created so as I have pointed before htat , if we blame the CVs according to our convinience , glorifying Gauri when she does good and cursing CVs when her character turns negative then this rule applies to every single character.

Rather we are supporting, judging a character created by the CVs that represent a group of people.

So yeah , Now I feel she is totally insensitive.
She is the Victim so as a Victim I pity her (sometimes) but not when due to her own weaknesses she is harming another victim.

=====

as Anthara said, YES, Its plain cruelity that one build hteir houses of dreams on other people's ruins. But thats today's reality. No one gives a crap about any one any more. Its always about Me, Me and more ME.


well said suchi di👏
on blaming CVS...😉...yeh toh mera janam sidh adhikar hai😉😆
just kidding...!!
but seriously...i think...Gauri ka character ko ruin kiya gaya hai...!!
mujhe toh aaj kal woh samajh main hi nehin aati...
am on regreting mode for liking her
anandi,gehena,sumitra samajh aati hai...q ki i see ppl like them in my surroundings...😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
#59
I personally feel there is no social message in this serial. I started watching this serial thinking that the show is against child marriage. But it turned out to glorify infidelity. Anandi is still treated as beendni in that haveli. The latest SBS segment showed sauthan ka SR. What do they mean sauthan (co-wife)? Now they are glorifying polygamy as well. hmmm... This is just a fictional storyline and we have to watch it for just time pass and definitely not for any morals or ethics.

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Posted: 14 years ago
#60
Absolutely Anthara.

And that is why I strongly feel that even though the shows are fiction, it represents the way we think and perceive reality.

There is a very thin line now between reel and reality.

Back in the day of our Parents, it wasn't the case. They weren't addicted to shows like we are or go on forums discussing the issues or fighting for our fav.

They had different role models to look up to. Their life was governed by the experiences they had to go through but today, besides our own life we also have the media affecting and shaping our mentality.


I have kids and I strictly guard what they are allowed to see and what they are not allowed to see.

I have learned this that, once the 'bad' becomes a norm , its not 'bad' any more.

Lets take the simple example of cursing or saying the F word. Its just become part of the normal conversation amongst teens now so much so that , when used, it does not stir their conscience that they are saying something disgusting.

And this extends to every immorality that we see now... everything has become 'its our understanding, our opinion, our way of life'.
Thus resulting in decline of moral values and behavior.

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And YES I 1000% agree with you , Media has a HUGE role to play in all of this.


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