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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hello everyone! I am, well, not new the forum, but yes, I have never commented or posted on the forum before. Actually, I get amused and entertained just be reading the posts, articles, comments, et cetera, so I really don't like commenting all that much. But these past few weeks, the after-the-leap time, this has really got me a little upset. Not all that much, but yes, a little definitely. The reason for me being upset is pretty simple actually - I kind of don't appreciate the anger building up against our badi Anandi. Why? Well, let me put forward a few situations+reasons on why I still am in favour of her character.

1. "The new Anandi is dumb."

What's so new about her anyway(apart from her physical appearance of course :P). Didn't we all know, somehow or the other, that one day she will grow up to become this? Didn't we know that she had promised Kalyani that she will leave her studies if that is what pleases her Dadisa? Didn't we know that after all the tumultuous experiences of Anandi in her saasra, she'd be sacrificial enough to not displease Kalyani as much as possible, even if it meant acting a little stupid or being the 'haanji'/'ji Dadisa'/'ho jaayega Dadisa' type? And, what is wrong with pleasing somebody for the sake of peace/for the sake of everyone's benefit? 'Have acceptance and tolerance of situations around you, but don't take abuse.' This is what so many of us have been taught by our parents all this while, and at least I like to go by this. Think for a minute - doesn't Anandi still have the option to study? She does. She can very well ask Bhairon to make arrangements for her studies and he will not refuse, we know that. She can go against the wishes of Dadisa and go out of the house on her own, pursue her studies and have a gala time studying with her Jagdish. But she won't. She could've studies in those 5 years she was away from her saasra? Then why didn't she? Well, she had promised Dadisa, hadn't she. And, what would she gains out of displeasing or disrespecting Dadisa even if she went out and gained all the knowledge in the world? Nothing. No peace of mind, not satisfaction, no blessing from Dadisa, nothing. When we say that a Mother's being educated plays the most important part in her children's lives, what do we mean? Does it imply only the school-going type education? I'm sure that the degree-earning education is a part of it. But did we even for once acknowledge how Anandi intelligently helped Varun recall his numbers with the help of kites. Now we surely can't call her dumb. Could Jagdish have done a similar thing? No. He's too self-consumed in a manner wherein he won't do a particular thing unless he finds it utterly important or something wherein he feels strong anger/frustration against Dadisa and hence wants to stand up against her injustice. I loved the way Anandi helped Varun and in fact, that is what signifies the importance of the quote I just mentioned, in my opinion at least.

2. "Anandi knows what all expressions to give to her beend when he gets all mushy but she didn't know why she would have to share the same room with him from now on."

I read this somewhere today, in one of the quotes. Well, haha.. Let me tell you something. I'm 16. I'm a metropolitan girl. I'm young, independent, have set goals in my life and all of that. I don't dream of "the Mr Perfect" because I find all this very dumb, but still, I do have a set notion of all the romantic things which I'm eagerly awaiting in my life - I am a one-man woman. I have never been told how I'm supposed react when I meet the special someone because my parents have never really talked about these things. They know it's all very natural and it will come when time permits it and God wills it. I'm pretty sure that me, being a city girl at 16, and Anandi, being a village girl at 18 - we'll more or less have the same mind-set at this age, in these things I mean. So if now, I were to be with my husband and you know, if he tries to get mushy like the way Jagya does, I'll have similar expressions too, I'll be shy and all. Isn't that natural? Hardly anybody can stand still like an idol if such romantic things were to happen to him/her. But consider Anandi's position - she has never been told of these things. She knows Jagdish is her beend, she knows the meaning and significance of her beend, but has she ever been told by her parents about what she's supposed to do with him when she's alone? No, never. How do you expect the poor girl to know? She will react in a natural manner to his mushiness and the way he talks to her and about what all he talks to her - it's natural. But what she has to do, will do in the future - she doesn't know about anything at all as of now. And it's not a fault too - she's just 18!!

I mean, give her a life ya! Why do you think she's dumb and all of that? Just because she NEVER says anything against anybody? Is that really even required all the time? Is revolting/rebelling the only solution to all the problems in this world? I'd rather salute Anandi for knowing and fulfilling her duties as of now. She has her whole life to study and get education - Dadisa toh thode waqt ki hee mehmaan hai na?! I'm sure Jagdish will encourage her to study further and very soon, we shall see her with her book, back in full swing, but making Dadisa unhappy is not the way out, I feel. Why are we so pessimistic here? I guess we have all drawn our conclusions too soon. I think we should wait for a while and see for itself. And what's all this talk about Jagdish's second wife? Why are people so bent on bringing her back in the scenario? I'm not completely ruling out a possibility of her getting back, but where does this stem from? Why do we want the second wife to come back ya? :P And she's practically not even a second wife. Don't insult the relationship Anadi and Jagdish share by saying that Jagdish has a second wife.
Anyway, that's all I have to say, for now at least. And, no offence meant to anybody's opinions et al. I hope you people understand what I'm trying to say here. :)

P.S. Whatever I have said in this post - it is all completely in my opinion and is not imposing on anybody's views and opinions in anyway. :)

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Posted: 15 years ago
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KUdos to u for bringing this up!!!

I have been feeling the same for a while now.........especially the piont u made abt revolt/rebellion not being a solution to all problems..................this POV coming for a 16 yr old metropolitan city-bred girl is another factor which amazes me regarding the content of this topic....

I didn't speak up coz in general I get a feeling that due to lack of patience and the understanding of the basic value of nurturing relationships and especially respecting elders by means of avoiding unnecessary conflict/alternate peaceful means of getting point across by the current generation (BTW I am part of it as well), more specifically to the anti-Anandi school of thought lot, this topic would probably go unnoticed. Besides, after reading ur topic, I have to concede that I wouldn't have probably be able to convey the point so convincingly n directly as u have.

I actually believe that of all the programmes on air right now, the most logical and seamless progression of storyline by introducing a time-leap in the narrative has been achieved beautifully by Balika Vadhu alone, which has managed to look so normal without any unforced situations being thrust upon to justify a certain move. The character development of each person looks true as gold and as usual, everything from the sets to costumes to jewellery to acting is fantastic. Though some ppl might have the opinion the story is unfolding slowly etc, i think it's going just at the right pace. I was one of those who wasn't too sure of the post-leap development as I thought there wouldn't be much left for further exploration, but the Creatives have left me spellbound with the story development. As of now, I have truly come back to being a fan of BV.

As for ANandi, I would request ppl to be patient and try to analyse her character in light of the info posted on this topic earlier, and hopefully her characterisation and her attitude should not come as too much of a surprise, would make better sense. And as has been suggested by praks, u never know that there may be positive change in store for our beloved Anandi.

Kudos to the whole team again....in particular the new comers Shashank n Pratyusha and the adorable kidsssssssss....theyr just too cute :D

TC....n btw no offence to nebody, alll this was said in utmost peace n full sincerity without ne intention of mocking ne1 or hurting individual sentiments.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Everyone in this forum is welcome to post their opinions, so please don't feel that you are offending anyone, only personal attacks would be inappropriate.

The reason I (and I believe most people who are "Anti" Anandi) is because only her track is so regressive and unnatural while others react to situations the way most people would.

Praks you said it yourself ' Have acceptance and tolerance of situations around you, but don't take abuse.' This is not at all true in case of Anandi. She suffers abuse in the hands of Maasa and she doesn't just look the other way, she encourages it, by telling Maasa she will do what is needed. And she has been doing this even when she was 13. This sort of behaviour is NOT normal. The CT's are trying to project Anandi as the typical regressive Mahaan atma type suhagan that other soaps do, but this does not gel well with Anandi's character sketch. This is why a lot of us are frustrated with this sort of characer butchering.

The other point abt education...while a lot of us think Anandi should have studied, my personal opinion is that education or no education, the problem is with the character development for Anandi. On one hand they show her as super-mature abt certain family situations, while she is super super dumb and believes superstitions over such silly matters like drinking tea making someone dark. These sort of remarks are not just unreal but derogatory.

You are of course welcome to feel Anandi is right in her position, while I will at the moment choose to remain cynical about her.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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People even with education are super dumb.

And those who are mature with relationships also tend to be dumb when it comes to superstitious matters etc.

Though I am not really thrilled with the current track... I am not very much surprised with Aanandi's character. The CVs have made her true to her image.

Thats the reality. People are like that who think if you drink tea you will become dark etc.

Like if you eat Okra/Bhindi you will be good in maths,

If you eat Mash ki daal ( urad daal) you will go deaf.

I mean people whom I know, who have college degrees have said it, (not that they believe it, kind of its just something its embedded in them)

ANd ofcourse tehy are one of the most mature people I have seen.

Its just reality what BV is showing...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@hkarora

"I didn't speak up coz in general I get a feeling that due to lack of patience and the understanding of the basic value of nurturing relationships and especially respecting elders by means of avoiding unnecessary conflict/alternate peaceful means of getting point across by the current generation (BTW I am part of it as well), more specifically to the anti-Anandi school of thought lot, this topic would probably go unnoticed."

Well, to each his own. But yes, I will agree still with what you said about the lack of patience and the understanding of the basic value of nurturing relationships.

@iloveidiotbox

I don't want it to sound like a cliche, but well, let me state an example here. Shri Ram - we all know about Him. The epitome of sacrificial behavior and duty-boundedness, to an extent wherein sometimes I feel suffocated by just listening, reading or watching things about him. But were his acts super-humanly? Certainly not. Kaikeyi sent him to exile for FOURTEEN YEARS - is that worse than what Anandi is facing now? A Prince, sent away to live the life of ascetics, deprived of his right to the throne as a rightful heir - but did he revolt? No. Had he any ill feelings toward his step-mother? No. He was instead thankful to her for being "so thoughtful" to help him become stronger by surviving in all kinds of conditions. Of course to this people can say things like "He was Shri Ram, the Shri Ram", "It was that Yuga, the Treta-Yuga where such things really happened, not in today's world", et al. But well, don't we realise that the sole purpose of Vishnu incarnating in the human form was to give the message that human will and power is beyond anything imaginable in this world - it can win and win like nothing, never before. You may be an Atheist, you may not believe in God, you may shun whatever I said just now. But you surely cannot ignore the example. It is a fact, and we all know it, somehow or the other(by "you" I mean anybody, not you in specific). And, this type of behavior is NOT normal? Really? Let me give you another example, which is a little personal. My grandmother - overbearing and dominating. Very good on the surface of it, but very very demanding of my mother. My mother would give in to Dadi's demands, even if they were unreasonable, in the initial years of marriage. Now Mumma does what she likes - she goes out shopping with me, roaming about, on lunches and dinners, she spends her time doing her stuff, grooming herself, et al, but at what cost? No, she's not refraining from her duties. She makes sure all of her work at home and for Dadi is done first so that Dadi has absolutely no reason to chide her. Mumma had the option of bringing up a fight and saying things like "Aap alag rahengi aur hum alag." This is always an option. But did she do that? No. She is a symbol of acceptance and tolerance, but not of taking abuse because she makes sure her duties are fulfilled and she also gets time for herself, her kids and all of that. She is the major reason our family has been together for the past 25 years. My father has always left the option of leaving the house and settling somewhere away from Dadi, but Mumma says only one thing - "Mann nahin maanta." Exactly what Sumitra said. Not that I favour Sumitra all that much. She must speak up sometimes. But she's not an unreal character at all. I've seen a few people like her in my family; my mother is an example. Anandi was always the "idealist", from her helping Bhairon to get up from the ground the first time he came to their village to see Anandi, to her making food for everyone in the house against Jagdish's wish - she is not an inch unreal. And superstitions? Excuse me! 85%-90% of all Indians who exist in today's world are strong superstition-believers. Are they all extremely un-intelligent or super super dumb too? I guess not, I hope not actually.
Edited by praks - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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according to @praks " 85%-90% of all Indians who exist in today's world are strong superstition-believers."

well , Iam in that other 10% category,i would rather stay in that minority than join a majority bandwagon i DONT agree with...
Arguing about rama -i can but i wont ,not on this forum,as the 'majority" will be offended,your mum's choices are entirely her own but my problem is not whether anandi makes tea or sabzi or other household job but about giving up education-that is stupidity not sacrifice-education is the basement-the foundation stone to a person's future life.To give it up just for dadisa is a bad choice and dadisa isnt appreciating her super sacrifice anyway is she,she wont even acknowledge it...
To you your own view,lets just agree to disagree ..
Edited by pjyo - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree with Jyoti and iloveidiotbox.. with due respect to your view praks.. I personally feel Anandi has been growing dumber day by day.... according to me she has crossed all limits of stupidity..by giving up education in the first place... and now she is behaving like a retard..believing in superstitions such as "jhoot bolne se naak phool jaati hai" and "tea makes you look darker" etc etc... This Anandi is totally different from the kid Anandi.. at least on the education front... when she was a kid she used to wait to get her books in hand... Even after doing all the household work... she used to borrow books from jagya and phooli and study at the end of the day ! ... Now she is just interested in making pudine ki chutney and cook all day long and be a doormat to Daadisa.. who is never happy with her...

She has gone from bad to worse... Excessive submissive behavior to keep a family happy.. is a big NO NO for me at least ! I dont consider that normal..Over here she just wants to please Daadisa, at the expense of her own and her husband's happiness.. Now thats not acceptable.... and Daadisa is always borderline abusive to her.. thats a fact..

So yea from my point of view Anandi is now an epitome of dumbness and stupidity ! and I am sure even I fall in that minor 10% who think otherwise.... but I would be happy being there ! Again this is solely my POV and I dont mind if 90% disagree with this.. I stand by my opinion..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: pjyo

according to @praks " 85%-90% of all Indians who exist in today's world are strong superstition-believers."

well , Iam in that other 10% category,i would rather stay in that minority than join a majority bandwagon i DONT agree with...
Arguing about rama -i can but i wont ,not on this forum,as the 'majority" will be offended,your mum's choices are entirely her own but my problem is not whether anandi makes tea or sabzi or other household job but about giving up education-that is stupidity not sacrifice-education is the basement-the foundation stone to a person's future life.To give it up just for dadisa is a bad choice and dadisa isnt appreciating her super sacrifice anyway is she,she wont even acknowledge it...
To you your own view,lets just agree to disagree ..



You're not being asked to be superstitious. I am not. A lot many others are not too. But somewhere, even if it is a small part in us, we're afraid of something which makes us believe in false notions. But that's another argument. And and, you must tell us what you feel about the Rama example - that's what the whole thing is about. And well, I will disagree to the last part you said. Like Jagdish said Dadisa WILL NEVER appreciate "sacrifices" made by her beendnis for her happiness or pleasure - she's a sadist and will draw pleasure by being over-bearing. Her beendnis can choose either to remain quiet and happy in their own worlds by not paying attention to Dadisa's stupidity and demanding behavior, or they can choose to "stand up against her". I will go with the former. In my opinion, my life is too full of so many important things to hold a grudge against anybody. If I am expected to do a particular thing for the happiness of my family, I will just go ahead and do it, because really, faith is all that is required always. I liked the part a lot where Anandi said to Jagya - "Humein apna kaam poori imaandari se karna chaahiye, chaahe kisiko acha lage ya na lage." We all forget the purpose for which we're existing as part of this world. It's nobody's business to please Dadisa, but if pleasing her can be for the benefit of the entire household, then why not?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: praks



You're not being asked to be superstitious. I am not. A lot many others are not too. But somewhere, even if it is a small part in us, we're afraid of something which makes us believe in false notions. But that's another argument. And and, you must tell us what you feel about the Rama example - that's what the whole thing is about. And well, I will disagree to the last part you said. Like Jagdish said Dadisa WILL NEVER appreciate "sacrifices" made by her beendnis for her happiness or pleasure - she's a sadist and will draw pleasure by being over-bearing. Her beendnis can choose either to remain quiet and happy in their own worlds by not paying attention to Dadisa's stupidity and demanding behavior, or they can choose to "stand up against her". I will go with the former. In my opinion, my life is too full of so many important things to hold a grudge against anybody. If I am expected to do a particular thing for the happiness of my family, I will just go ahead and do it, because really, faith is all that is required always. I liked the part a lot where Anandi said to Jagya - "Humein apna kaam poori imaandari se karna chaahiye, chaahe kisiko acha lage ya na lage." We all forget the purpose for which we're existing as part of this world. It's nobody's business to please Dadisa, but if pleasing her can be for the benefit of the entire household, then why not?



@praks..
you have bought a good point that sometimes letting things go instead of revolting is the best solution. and i ... being a married know it too well... you also shared with us mother's personal experience.. but let me point out that..what happened with anandi is not she is deprived of going out or having time to herself.. she faced great injustice... which is why we feel she is being too submissive and not speaking against it...

everything that happened to her was dramatic.. being locked up, taunted for her parents poverty,got shot in her head.. and her husband was almost MARRIED off when she was hale and hearty .. given such circumstances do u think she should just take things lying down..??
dadisa may be a elder persona and may have only few years on her.. that doesn't give her the right to spoil and control some else life.. in fact the very point that anandi will most definitely outlive dadisa should tell us whose life deserves to be groomed more?

also about anandi studying later... yes it can be done and it happens.. but when she has the prime of her youth to put to use why not use it now.? being a student u will urself agree that education is best acquired with the mind is fresh and impressionable..
after she becomes a mother.. her other responsibilities will definitely pull her down


Edited by pallai - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Praks- Girl u r 16 😲 and i appreciate u have written so much 👍🏼
But u still have a long way to go ........

Edit* Hey if i am correct ur name is Prakriti- Loved it 😳

Edited by bhavi20_s - 15 years ago

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