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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



All cynics don't need to be "cured" in life...that's an overly simplistic and misguided funda.

Exactly. But I fear that is exactly what they will attempt to do. They see it only as a result of a messed up love life. And therefore, something that Yamini will be able to "cure"!
He is what he is. And he is a compelling enough character just the way he is. Trying to "tone" him down will be treating him like a child! And it is also unnecessary here. Why should anybody think that Yamini is not in the wrong here is beyond me!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoveToLaugh

Exactly. But I fear that is exactly what they will attempt to do. They see it only as a result of a messed up love life. And therefore, something that Yamini will be able to "cure"!
He is what he is. And he is a compelling enough character just the way he is. Trying to "tone" him down will be treating him like a child! And it is also unnecessary here. Why should anybody think that Yamini is not in the wrong here is beyond me!



Sadly most soaps and movies follow this route...the cynic converted into a loverboy...supposedly that's every girl's dream...to "improve" the brooder/cynic she gets fascinated with by "curing" him of his brooding and making him see how the world is sunshine and rainbows and she herself is the ultimate angel he must worship🤔

I never really understood this funda...if you love someone, shouldn't you love them for what they are?...first UNDERSTAND them before going about trying to "improve" them in ways you personally deem best.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post. It is very apparent from today' episode that Yamini has no inkling on the aftereffects of her actions.. just blissfully ignorant. I too was hoping that the track would be for Yamini to realize the magnitude of her actions but that did not happen today.

She did the ending switch with "good intentions". Her dad reminds her before she enters the finale that it is the last night and she will no longer need to hang around with this group from tomorrow. It was almost as if it was her parting gift to Nikumbh, a life of people pleasing skills( with her dad, fans) made her change the ending to ensure that it was well received by the audience...but was completely wrong by Nikumbh as it was never her ship to steer.

My online link cut the precap for some reason but it would be a letdown seeing a reconciliation without both of them meeting half way - Yamini realizing how wrong she was by messing with his vision of the play and Nikumbh realizing it was never done with malicious intent.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful post ! 👏

Abhishek was brilliant once again.

Scenes by Gomti ghaat were excellent. The entire episode was well directed.

I don't understand how Yamini is not able to get ..Nikumbh is hurt because of broken trust.

Everyone in the show gets it ..including Raghu, Principal and nikkar-wearing Bollywood director..that's what's eating Nikumbh.

Bas Yamini hi apni duniya mein hain.. thinking ending justifies the means.. so much for being like Shakuntala .. 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: savvy05



My online link cut the precap for some reason but it would be a letdown seeing a reconciliation without both of them meeting half way - Yamini realizing how wrong she was by messing with his vision of the play and Nikumbh realizing it was never done with malicious intent.



The precap just shows Yamini leaving after Nikumb yells at her to never show him her face again...so she lives with a sense of Ok I'll leave if it pacifies you...I don't see any realization on her part as of now...unless it happens in the coming week...but yeah they will likely patch up soon enough...how that patch up happens is crucial if the writers hope to maintain story and character credibility.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yamini said sorry multiple times but Nikumbh is just too riled to listen to her yet. What she did was not easy to forgive and it doesn't help Nikumbh has many demons of his own. To top it all the lovable Mr. Raghavendra keeps adding fuel to the fire.

I don't see this feud ending anytime soon and there is no guarantee once it ends it won't raise it's ugly head again 😔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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AY, thanks for the precap update😊

Divs, there was a line by Nikumbh as he writes on the banks.."bharosa" vs "haq" ⭐️ Yamini thinks it was in her haq as Shakuntala to change the ending. Agree with your observation, when everyone else can see that Nikumbh is bothered with something more.. why does Yamini not even suspect it.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dkmnj

Yamini said sorry multiple times but Nikumbh is just too riled to listen to her yet. What she did was not easy to forgive and it doesn't help Nikumbh has many demons of his own. To top it all the lovable Mr. Raghavendra keeps adding fuel to the fire.

I don't see this feud ending anytime soon and there is no guarantee once it ends it won't raise it's ugly head again 😔


Yamini did try to apologize few times but what's not connecting is.. how she is going about it.

She keeps adding to the fire and riling up Nikumbh. .. somehow.

She says.. sorry..mujhe aapse baat karni hai.. but doesn't elaborate..which looks like she still feels what she did makes sense and she would do it again if the situation were to repeat. To her ..end justified the means.. even if it came at the expense of breaking a friend's trust and manipulating his creative vision.

All her attempts to say sorry don't show a genuine regret of the actual issue.that she did distort and manipulate Nikumbh's vision..deliberately and after saying she will not do that.

I feel.. if she just says.. okay..look..I was wrong. should have known better...clear cut..and then figure out how to mend the bridges..I can relate ..

All this "sorry..mujhe apni baat karne ka mauka deejiye.." stuff is most un-Shakuntala like..more like playing the victim card

Her glee at Bollywood guy saying ..that she needs to work with Nikumbh.. made it even more obvious how disconnected she is to actual issue..No one can be that oblivious

Her responses at press conference ..trivialized the actual issue.

I don't think she has really evolved much at all and has a long way to go.

I hope writers figure a way out of this to make Yamini relatable and multidimensional

.I really want to be able to empathize with both leads .. otherwise the show won't be watchworthy



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



Sadly most soaps and movies follow this route...the cynic converted into a loverboy...supposedly that's every girl's dream...to "improve" the brooder/cynic she gets fascinated with by "curing" him of his brooding and making him see how the world is sunshine and rainbows and she herself is the ultimate angel he must worship🤔

I never really understood this funda...if you love someone, shouldn't you love them for what they are?...first UNDERSTAND them before going about trying to "improve" them in ways you personally deem best.


It is really sad. And that is not even how it works in real life. You can't just change somebody like that. Mostly, it just ends with people breaking up. It was a great opportunity to show that here. How trying to assume that you know what's best for someone, without even bothering to understand the person, is NOT the right thing to do. Even when it is done with the best of intentions. But it seems like they don't even want to go that route.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: savvy05

AY, thanks for the precap update😊

Divs, there was a line by Nikumbh as he writes on the banks.."bharosa" vs "haq" ⭐️ Yamini thinks it was in her haq as Shakuntala to change the ending. Agree with your observation, when everyone else can see that Nikumbh is bothered with something more.. why does Yamini not even suspect it.


So true. Thanks for bringing that up. Yes, she thinks it was haq to make that change. Her bharosa in her own version is something, but to completely disregard his bharosa in her is another. Also, like you mentioned, this was almost a last parting gift to him. It is crazy! I don't know how she can be so single-minded about this whole thing, but she clearly cant see her own part in this.

Yes, everyone else can see that something really is bothering Nikumbh. But I don't think anybody really gets the real reason. Because nobody seems to think that Yamini was wrong.

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