Things which made you uncomfortable in Mahabharata - Page 12

It was Arjun who cut off Bheeshma's weapons and Bheeshma surrendered to Arjuna, the battle in description is all about Arjuna fighting Bheeshma and Shikhandi hitting him with arrows here and there, Those arrows didn't even stop Bheeshma from fighting, Bheeshma was coming down from his chariot with a sword to fight Arjun but Arjun cut off his sword too

Shikhandi was there so were other warriors with their arrows and maces who rushed towards Bheeshma after Arjun cut his sword, It is mentioned that Kuru army afraid of Arjuna abandoned Bheeshma

"Having slain in that battle, O monarch, (his foes) by hundreds and thousands, there was not in Bhishma's body space of even two fingers' breadth that was not pierced with arrows. Thus was thy sire mangled with arrows of keen points by Phalguni in that battle. And then he fell down from his car with his head to the east, a little before sunset"

There's long passage where Shikhandi is not mentioned during the war and during Bheeshma dies

Shikhandi killing Bheeshma is mentioned twice and both times it is attached with divinity and reincarnation of Amba

Arjun was a very willing participant after Krushna emotionally blackmailed him, Krushna was about to use his weapon on day 9 against Bheeshma breaking his vow which would have resulted in Krushna killing himself, Arjun stopped him and next day he participated with full force, You can read him laughing at Bheeshma, full of force, you know... adrenaline rush..

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Arjun has other sons also? 😱

How is this possible as his sons thro’ Draupadi and Subhadra got killed? 🤔

Arjuna fought mildly and lost his life. Then Naga Princess Ulupi revived him.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

It was Arjun who cut off Bheeshma's weapons and Bheeshma surrendered to Arjuna, the battle in description is all about Arjuna fighting Bheeshma and Shikhandi hitting him with arrows here and there, Those arrows didn't even stop Bheeshma from fighting, Bheeshma was coming down from his chariot with a sword to fight Arjun but Arjun cut off his sword too

Shikhandi was there so were other warriors with their arrows and maces who rushed towards Bheeshma after Arjun cut his sword, It is mentioned that Kuru army afraid of Arjuna abandoned Bheeshma

"Having slain in that battle, O monarch, (his foes) by hundreds and thousands, there was not in Bhishma's body space of even two fingers' breadth that was not pierced with arrows. Thus was thy sire mangled with arrows of keen points by Phalguni in that battle. And then he fell down from his car with his head to the east, a little before sunset"

There's long passage where Shikhandi is not mentioned during the war and during Bheeshma dies

Shikhandi killing Bheeshma is mentioned twice and both times it is attached with divinity and reincarnation of Amba

Arjun was a very willing participant after Krushna emotionally blackmailed him, Krushna was about to use his weapon on day 9 against Bheeshma breaking his vow which would have resulted in Krushna killing himself, Arjun stopped him and next day he participated with full force, You can read him laughing at Bheeshma, full of force, you know... adrenaline rush..

Arjuna was teary after Bhishma's fall. But he fought against him with full force on day 10. Kshatriya duties.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Precisely. It was Bhishma vs Arjuna with Shikhandi shooting arrows on stray occasions.

Arjuna was teary after Bhishma's fall. But he fought against him with full force on day 10. Kshatriya duties.

Yes, I read it again

Shikhandi is mentioned shooting 10 arrows after Arjun cut his first bow then one more time with 9 arrows, but after that all mentions of Shikhandi are Arjun shooting placing Shikhandi ahead of himself. There's no mention of Shikhandi when Arjun cut his sword, dart, chariot and Bheeshma's death

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

I don't believe Shikhandi was hit. Something's wrong there.

Regarding that myth of non-participation and the alleged face saving, it doesn't make sense when one careful reading dispels it. If the alleged thing was actually intended, verses would have mentioned BS like weapons being dropped. Non-readers even believe the folklores. 🤷‍♀️

Shikhandi being hit by Bheeshm is clearly mentioned, so why was he avoiding hitting Shikhandi on the 10th day

And how else does this Amba reincarnation theory fit in? If the face saving theory is discarded, then the entire reincarnation theory and Anba curse is interpolation

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Precisely. It was Bhishma vs Arjuna with Shikhandi shooting arrows on stray occasions.

Arjuna was teary after Bhishma's fall. But he fought against him with full force on day 10. Kshatriya duties.

I know it was completely Bhishma Vs Arjun but definitely it mentions that he kept Shikhandi in front of him, how does this fit in

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Shikhandi being hit by Bheeshm is clearly mentioned, so why was he avoiding hitting Shikhandi on the 10th day

And how else does this Amba reincarnation theory fit in? If the face saving theory is discarded, then the entire reincarnation theory and Anba curse is interpolation

Had it been an interpolation, BORI CE would have discarded it like several other interpolations.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I know it was completely Bhishma Vs Arjun but definitely it mentions that he kept Shikhandi in front of him, how does this fit in

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Shikhandi was leading a division that day. All Pandavas were a part of his division.

Everyday someone or the other leads the division but no where else such things are mentioned that the attacker was behind xyz

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I know it was completely Bhishma Vs Arjun but definitely it mentions that he kept Shikhandi in front of him, how does this fit in

What I think is that the battle remains the same with or without Shikhandi, even if Arjun placed Shikhandi before him Bheeshma is always targeting Arjuna, It's not mentioned that he is trying to avoid Shikhandi, If they had to show Shikhandi as important they would have written it clearly like Panchal Prince killing Drona. It's like lines with Shikhandi are added without changing the whole thing

Shikhandi fits with the narrative of Bheeshma refusing to fight a woman and Pandavas cheating him