Things which made you uncomfortable in Mahabharata - Page 13

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

It's not that he avoided him on day 10. He decided he won't hit Shikhandi before the war began.

Had it been an interpolation, BORI CE would have discarded it like several other interpolations.

But as I said he had attacked Shikhandi on day 7. That's exactly what discards this entire theory and promise of not hitting Shikhandi goes to a toss.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

But as I said he had attacked Shikhandi on day 7. That's exactly what discards this entire theory and promise of not hitting Shikhandi goes to a toss.

Bheeshma hit Shikhandi on day 10 too

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Everyday someone or the other leads the division but no where else such things are mentioned that the attacker was behind xyz

Originally posted by: NoraSM

What I think is that the battle remains the same with or without Shikhandi, even if Arjun placed Shikhandi before him Bheeshma is always targeting Arjuna, It's not mentioned that he is trying to avoid Shikhandi, If they had to show Shikhandi as important they would have written it clearly like Panchal Prince killing Drona. It's like lines with Shikhandi are added without changing the whole thing

Shikhandi fits with the narrative of Bheeshma refusing to fight a woman and Pandavas cheating him

But he was not avoiding Shikhandi on day 7 despite having said before the war that he wouldn't attack or hit Shikhandi, so why would he refuse to fight on day 10?

There could be only two possibilities

1) The entire Amba reincarnation and Shikhandi narration is an interpolation-- Doesn't seem likely because BORI didn't feel the need to have it removed

2) The entire theory was introduced to give some face saving to Bheeshm and some honourable farewell that he was being attacked by multiple people, at least on one of them he couldn't retaliate to. Again as Wistful said that doesn't add up since Arjun and Bheeshm combat is very clearly mentioned

I can't get the third reason for him not attacking Shikhandi on day 10 after having hit him of day 7 after saying he wouldn't hit Shikhandi before the war. .

Aside the entire story doesn't even fit in anywhere

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Not really. Providing shield to the leader on the forefront was pretty common.

But this time the commander was providing shield to others (Shikhandi being the unit incharge)

Okay! I re-read the part. Looked more like Bhishma's effort to shoo Shikhandi away by cutting his bow. 😆

There are so many instances of Shikhandi being ignored by him. Just 1-2 stray attacks in 10 days during an intense battle doesn't translate to fighting against Shikhandi.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

But he was not avoiding Shikhandi on day 7 despite having said before the war that he wouldn't attack or hit Shikhandi, so why would he refuse to fight on day 10?

There could be only two possibilities

1) The entire Amba reincarnation and Shikhandi narration is an interpolation-- Doesn't seem likely because BORI didn't feel the need to have it removed

2) The entire theory was introduced to give some face saving to Bheeshm and some honourable farewell that he was being attacked by multiple people, at least on one of them he couldn't retaliate to. Again as Wistful said that doesn't add up since Arjun and Bheeshm combat is very clearly mentioned

I can't get the third reason for him not attacking Shikhandi on day 10 after having hit him of day 7 after saying he wouldn't hit Shikhandi before the war. .

Aside the entire story doesn't even fit in anywhere

Bheeshma attacked Shikhandi on day 10 too, what I am saying is that if you remove mention of Shikhandi with the help of office word from that particular day, you will see no difference in state of Bheeshma, they couldn't change too much after all, the whole battle is about Arjuna vs Bheeshma so they added Shikhandi's name here and there, Shikhandi being ahead of Arjuna doesn't serve any purpose, it contradicts with what happened in previous chapters on same day when Bheeshma hit Shikhandi

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Bheeshma attacked Shikhandi on day 10 too, what I am saying is that if you remove mention of Shikhandi with the help of office word from that particular day, you will see no difference in state of Bheeshma, they couldn't change too much after all, the whole battle is about Arjuna vs Bheeshma so they added Shikhandi's name here and there, Shikhandi being ahead of Arjuna doesn't serve any purpose, it contradicts with what happened in previous chapters on same day when Bheeshma hit Shikhandi

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Even when Shikhandi was ahead, Arjuna was still being attacked by Bhishma. There's just one instance during which Bhishma refused to launch a divine weapon in Arjuna's direction upon beholding Shikhandi. Just one.

Exactly so how is Amba reincarnation theory of Shikhandi anything worth mentioning here?

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Exactly so how is Amba reincarnation theory of Shikhandi anything worth mentioning here?

Any citations of the divine weapon launch against Shikhandi?

So far we have the 7th day incident and now, this. Amba reincarnation story doesn't hold water in light of these things.

The only reasons I can see if Bheeshma wanting to save face. This, plus the contradictions make it quite likely Shikhandi had a bigger role to play in Bheeshma's death.