Bhishma's Detachment Against the Dark Backdrop of Greed - Page 2

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Contrary to what everyone else say, I think despite Bheeshm having had let go his personal happiness for his Pratibha, I think practically he was always the king behind the throne at least till Vichitraveer and Pandu were the kings, and even during the Dhritrashtra's rule till Duryodhan reached adolescent and started affecting his father's opinion.


Strangely it had nothing to do with him being efficient but only the fact that he wanted to rule but that Hastinapur always had inefficient kings


Despite Vichitraveer being elder, it was his decision to make Chitrangad the king (no doubt Vichitraveer was not efficient enough), but after his death we had Vichitraveer on throne, post that it was only Bheeshm who took all the decisions. After Vichitraveer's death although Satyavati was the queen, still the ruler in real sense was Bheeshm, he ruled indirectly till Pandu and Dhritrashtra weren't back from Gurukul, even after that it was he who threatened Gandhaar with the option of war it they didn't agree for marriage alliance, he remained the decision maker, had better spy system than the king. Maybe he didn't have the title but I can't think of any reason why he wasn't the king

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hey, if I am not wrong, aren't you Shruti. I remember you from Mahabharat (Star Plus) Forum. You were one Bhishma admirer there :D

Nice to see you here again!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Hey, if I am not wrong, aren't you Shruti. I remember you from Mahabharat (Star Plus) Forum. You were one Bhishma admirer there :D

Nice to see you here again!

You're not wrong. 😆

It's been 6 years since my last visit to the SPMB forum.

What was your username then?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: maharathikarna

The seeds of mahabharath were sown when devdrat birth right is forcibly taken away from him. That is called karma, whatever you forcibly snatch away from others cant give u any happiness. The fact is its effects gets carried across the ages in the family. It is beautifully depicted in the epic. When whole family dies trying to become king for a kingdom that was never theirs in the first place

It also applies to our lives also.

This is such an interesting POV. Though nobody forced him using explicit words, the actions ultimately paved the way towards an injustice.

I had read that Karma isn't always individual. Even nations have Karma.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Contrary to what everyone else say, I think despite Bheeshm having had let go his personal happiness for his Pratibha, I think practically he was always the king behind the throne at least till Vichitraveer and Pandu were the kings, and even during the Dhritrashtra's rule till Duryodhan reached adolescent and started affecting his father's opinion.


Strangely it had nothing to do with him being efficient but only the fact that he wanted to rule but that Hastinapur always had inefficient kings


Despite Vichitraveer being elder, it was his decision to make Chitrangad the king (no doubt Vichitraveer was not efficient enough), but after his death we had Vichitraveer on throne, post that it was only Bheeshm who took all the decisions. After Vichitraveer's death although Satyavati was the queen, still the ruler in real sense was Bheeshm, he ruled indirectly till Pandu and Dhritrashtra weren't back from Gurukul, even after that it was he who threatened Gandhaar with the option of war it they didn't agree for marriage alliance, he remained the decision maker, had better spy system than the king. Maybe he didn't have the title but I can't think of any reason why he wasn't the king

He guided the fortunes of the state of Hastinapura under the most trying circumstances, when it was without a king and when it was ruled by a physically and morally blind king.

^ This quote from an article sums it up.


Vichitravirya was actually the younger one.

Regarding that threat to Gandhar, it's highly doubtful because they happily agreed to the alliance.

SPMB showed Bhishma approach the kingdom with a huge army.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Quora is never a legit source. It's rather a fantasy blog for many. Please could you give a legit source for this thorn story, it's interesting and as an avid Bhisma lover, would want to read that. 😊


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Posted: 5 years ago
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I have given another link of thorn story in page 2 itself

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wistfulness

He guided the fortunes of the state of Hastinapura under the most trying circumstances, when it was without a king and when it was ruled by a physically and morally blind king.

^ This quote from an article sums it up.


Vichitravirya was actually the younger one.

Regarding that threat to Gandhar, it's highly doubtful because they happily agreed to the alliance.

SPMB showed Bhishma approach the kingdom with a huge army.

Wow that quote said all I wanted to say, he was the best king Hastinapur could have got and when he decided not to get it, the universe made plans to ensure he ruled over the state if not directly then indirectly.

Are you sure about Chitrangad being the elder? Will have to check that then.


About Gandhar threat, even the sources which say that Ghadhar Naresh happily accepted the proposal say that the tone of Bheeshm while seeking the alliance was threatening

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: surabhi01

https://gita-blog.blogspot.com/2013/08/why-bhishma-pitamah-had-to-suffer-on.html


This is another link where it told what karm lead bhishm lead to bed of arrow

Here again they haven't given any source but just a story

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Posted: 5 years ago
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This is true story because they have given exact number that when did bhishm committed sin.


This another link told that since Mahabharata epic is longest epic so it impossible to know everything at a time so they reveal this secret


https://www.speakingtree.in/allslides/2a-457830

Mahabharata mein bahut khuch hua tha but use tv mein less dikhaya gaya

Edited by surabhi01 - 5 years ago

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