Member of the Week - Krutilynn - Page 6

Originally posted by: innocentindian

kruti, i have noticed you tend to quote from hindu scriptures, which is really nice...did u gain your knowledge mainly from reading them or do u also listen to lectures on hinduism and hindu scriptures? Primarily through reading many of them over and over again. Also, my interest was also in sanskrit roots of words, so when reading scriptures i tend to read both, the original verse and the translation. I also like to read critiques and essays written on scripture. I am not much into attending lectures because my experience suggests that there is a deep religious and ritualistic side to these lectures which i do not appreciate very much because these tend to promote misconceptions and biases...IMHO of course.

[btw-it was great how u sporingly took my last posting here..coool! 👏 ] It was too funny...and i have a good sense of humor 😃

Originally posted by: xyzzee

Kruti, I think I will respond to your answers on Kate Blackwell in a PM. But basically I think she did love her son sincerely - only thing is she thought she was doing what she did for his benefit. More in a PM. Don't want to turn this into a Master of the Game thread 😉
Hehehehe...i understand...will respond in a PM
I agree completely on Scarlett O' Hara.. Her reaons for marriage were ridiculous in my opinion. A strong character no doubt of course..I agree she is like a spoiled brat throughout...but strong woman nonetheless.

I believe that one cannot grow without taking risks...innovations and inventions are of little meaning without risk. And, i am a risk-taker. If nobody else is going to get hurt in the process i would take risks even without the benefit of high pay-off. [QUOTE]

WOW!

That is a smart statement, that one cannot grow without risk....but can u expand on why you would take a big (it seems from ur above quote) risk without much resulting benefit?

Originally posted by: innocentindian

Originally posted by: krutilynn

naw not atall. but now I'm getting all funny ideas. I can see banana trees and vegetable market in a veggie stomach and a lawn in a cow,goat.. stomach. 😆

I pretty much agree with your opinion on life.

Happy new year and one more question from me:

Whats your thoughts on gandhi and hitler's leadership qualities.

Originally posted by: innocentindian

I agree it is right to take a risk provided one's duty demands it...then that, I beleive, is in keeping with the teaching from the GITA...that's fine.

But no point taking a risk without any proportional benefit. However, this is a very subjective argument wherein it is difficult to discuss in a general manner. Whilst the inital question was good, it has to be looked at based on individual circumstances. Just IMHO. I see your point...and i concur!

Next questions...

You mentioned you read essays etc about the scriptures, but those essays are also based on individual opinions, just like the lectures....the reason i mention this again is that as you are a gujarati and one aware of her religion, then you must also know about all the katha's that take place on our scriptures...i was just curious whether you have heard those.... I believe that kathas are meant to maintain the interest of the general populace...i dont count them as scriptures even though i have heard/read most of them. They also provide certain subtle suggestions about life. For instance in the katha written for Soorya, it has been explicitly mentioned that Soorya accepted his wife (Tara) even after she spent all her time with Chandra (moon) and even the child borne by Tara - Budhha (Mercury) as his own because righteous people do not judge their spouses on the basis of one error...i dont know if i would be as patient as Soorya regarding such a matter...but it shows tolerance which is embedded in our (hindu) society.

Also, as per your signature quote, as a male, I would like you to tell us what it is you women do in your free time that would repel us? (I would like to say this is a compulsory question, but of course none of them are, so I can't...but if u can't answer here, then plesae do PM it 😉 ) Hehehe Like i said before, i am not shy about answering in public...i am responsible enough to take flak when it hits me for saying something that i maybe shouldnt 😃. So in answer to your query...i got the quote from O. Henry's story titled "Memoirs of a Dog" where the dog's owners are a couple - the wife is more of a nag and his master is quiet and tolerant. The dog says the above sentence regarding how his mistress spent all her time talking with people and doing this or the other up until it was 30 mins before her husband came home. Then she would sit down and start sewing furiously and cleaning up the house so that when her hubby came home she could say that she was tired because she had worked all day. PHEW...that being said, i figured that since majority of us on the IF forums are women, it would be cute to put that quote in my signature - coz some of us might have spouses who get a little irritated at times with the amoutn of time we spend on discussing or watching hindi serials. 😃

Originally posted by: rachel490

naw not atall. but now I'm getting all funny ideas. I can see banana trees and vegetable market in a veggie stomach and a lawn in a cow,goat.. stomach. 😆 These are just hilarious thoughts...keep em coming! 😆

I pretty much agree with your opinion on life. Thanks...and glad to hear that 😊

Happy new year and one more question from me: Happy New Year to you and your wife also!

Whats your thoughts on gandhi and hitler's leadership qualities. O Boy! This is one is going to be a long answer and probably going to stir up a hornet's nest....o well...here it goes:

On Gandhi - As an individual i feel that Gandhi was a hypocrite - having done a lot of 'forbidden' things yourself, it is always easy to preach otherwise. He was also extremely self-centered - it has been shown more than once that under the guise of "ritual or aadat" he had ignored his own family to no extent, including but not limited to going on a walk as his wife lay dying in the house!!!

But as a leader, i feel that he was very impressive and by defintion shrewd and political. I guess the hindi word to describe him would be "DOOR-darshi" - with long term goals and a clear plan of action, he was able to lead a nation, unite the nation, put social prejudices on a side at least long enough to attain a common goal. I feel that India woudl have been liberated even if it were not for Gandhi and others but it was the manner in which he was able to influence the most uneducated to the most educated people in a nation - localites and foreigners - was remarkable! What would i learn from him is that if you believe in yourself and are willing to do whatever it takes to convince others to believe in you, you would be a good leader!

On Hitler - I believe that in Hitler's case it was a mixture of wrong political party and following scientific studies too closely before they were proved beyond doubt! Let me expand on this further but before i do, i would like to mention that I absolutely do not condone any of his behavior and killings in any way...i am just trying to discuss why it is Hitler we hate but dont blink at so many others who were doing the same thing all over the globe in the contemporary hitlerian era.

Eugenics - a study section focussing on how genetic endowments arising from racial backgrounds defined characteristics and intelligence of a person - was pursued actively in the US and some select western countries since the early twentieth century. some preliminary conclusions were that some races are superior to others. This fact was used by many North american states to control the black population and keep them segregated from the white population. It also extended to include the waves of immigrants that were flowing in to US attracted by the industrial boom. Hitler got highly influenced by these studies. His political ambitions were high, but on the basis of these faulty, biased studies he convinced a large proportion of the people that some people are inferior. Other historical research proved that Aryans had seemingly migrated from Europe to South Asia and Hitler decided that it was the pure race with blue eyes and blond hair, and hence these are the only people who deserved to live in order to achieve a higher world class. So this was error number one, even though as a leader, he did a fine job of gettng his subordinates to follow the most inhumane of the orders unquestioningly.

Stalin in Russia was doing the same thing and actually had killed far more people than Hitler (again primarily jews) but Russia was allied with the US and England and hence he escaped the punishment and hatred meted out to Hitler by the rest of the world. A saying i read somewehre comes to my mind - The best place for a weak person is near the feet of a winner because then nobody pays any attention to the weaker person, unlike the loser! I have never seen a better example of this saying than in the situation of Hitler and Stalin and the Allied Forces in WWII. BTW, Stalin joined the allies because Hitler's forces were intruding russia also...where the local people were actually welcoming them as they were less tyrannical than Stalin's forces!!!

regarding your above answer, hope u don't mind, but i don't think i understand whether you have understood me...by the katha's, i did not mean the small stories such as the soorya one you have outlined, but the religious discourses taking place globally by excellent orators, particularly from Gujarat, and who speak on ramayan, bhagavat,gita.....so u have heard these?


nice point about the Mrs. being on IF... ummm, i suppose in this day and age, these things are not necessarily gender-centric... 😉

V.interesting what u wrote on gandhi and hitler....have u read nathuram godse's speech after he killed gandhi? Any other such interesting points about hitler or hitler-related?...i didn't know all that about stalin...

BTW - aha, so u r not shy to answer in public, so thou art bindas? 😉