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Posted: 3 years ago
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It was like this , and it may still be.like this in many parts of India but it's changing and changing rapidly..we are moving to the other end of the spectrum infact , I fear that it's gonna break the very fabric of our society in the coming decades .



Law favour women more , itna ke women have started taking advantage of it. Yes our legal system is messed up . Women's rights r protected, but to enforce them is the duty of the law but the law takes years and years and nobody really want to get into it. Divorce laws favour women more than men.


True, laws that are made to benefit females are many times used by them to their advantage in the wrong way. there are so many cases where a man's life has become hell just bcoz of fake charge of violence against him.



More and more girls are getting educated , and working , at least in cities you will see that women are taking up all kinds of jobs. Whether it's my maid or any laborer, they send their kids to school. Divorce rate is at an all time high . Women are now more economically independent , more than ever before..its years and years of suppression, it will take time to get out of it .

as for suffering in silence in marriage , the current generation doesn't. Don't take anupama as the benchmark , these shows r what they used to be 30 yrs back 😆Now women like anupama are like role model for some bec they know it's impossible to be like her.


Today's men are afraid of their wives, they don't dare to mess with their wives unnecessarily.đŸ€Ș


As for brothers and fathers taking a decision, I haven't seen it around me , in my extended family, or anyone except in the remote villages perhaps and remote villages itself r a thing of past with rapid development...not all fathers and brothers are unsupportive , it's a very generic statement to be made ... some are really very supportive , in general daughters are closer to their fathers than their moms.


Even I have not seen this thing around me. Girls take their own decision whether it is career-based or related to marriage. Even, in small cities or towns also, scenario has changed, girls take their own decision. I want to share a very funny incident in short on this. Once a yoga teacher (PhD in yoga) belonged to a small village, was talking to my husband about his alliance. he said, " I want to marry just bcoz ki khana bana banaya mile" and was praising the girl whom he was going to see like she is very good, very decent..... I know her .blah blah. My husband is very cool, gave a smile only, but I was thinking ki beta acchi to hogi but dekh lena, tumhe na khan banana pade uske liye bhi. Next day he came with long face. on asking he said," ladki bahut bekaar hai. husband: kyun. He said," girl told him that usse khana banane mei koi ruchi nahi hai".đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł. this is the incident of a small village.


Yes , there are a few things which are ingrained in us . I won't go into Indian vs western debate . There r a pros and cons of both . All I can say is , as parents it's our responsibility to empower our children so that they are independent , mature beings , better than our generation. Not turn out worse than us with the given freedom(which is happening alongside sadly )



Lastly I would like to add that I don't find anuj kapadia appealing . All that he does is be a puppy to anupama ..he is the other extreme. Blind faith is as dangerous as no trust ... He can have a voice and he can tell anupama that she is wrong sometimes. It's not ok to put someone on a pedestal as high as this . Anupama loves toxicity in the name of love . Anyone supporting her will fall to her level for me.


Earlier, I used to think that this man has set a benchmark, man should be like AK but later I realized that there are men in real life who are real heroes but we don't appreciate them and take them for granted. The only difference is that every man can not buy a diamond set worth 80 lac for his wife.😆


Ps I don't watch the show but I have an idea abt the story from the forum. That's why I reply only in the generic topics

Same with me but I like interacting and love to read others' opinions.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I do agree with most of your points except a few.


In India, even if your are 40 years old, parents will have still have an interference in your life.

Whether it's a good or bad thing is debatable.


And as for Pakhi being a 20 year old young lady, the need to have freedom of choice is justified.

But had I been a mother, I would have first wanted my child to focus on their careers rather than getting involved in love at such an age.

Plus,if you are living with your parents, and are dependant on them still, I don't think there is anything wrong in them involving in your personal life to some extent.

And the problem here is not having a liking for some guy, or having boyfriend, it's more about who is that guy? A relative of your mother, which can lead to a lot of family complications and problems. And as a parent,every parent has an instinctive reaction to protect their kids from any harm, so I don't find anything wrong in it.


I am pretty sure, whosoever are mothers in this forum, how much ever independence they give their kids or trust their kids, would not be comfortable if their daughter or son would be in a closed room with a relative of the opposite gender during a family function. And it's not always about not trusting your kid, it more about being cautious about the person your kid is hanging around with.


Some things kids have to learn on their own, and some parents have to teach their kids from their own experiences...it's just a matter of perception and generation gap.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krinya


It was like this , and it may still be.like this in many parts of India but it's changing and changing rapidly..we are moving to the other end of the spectrum infact , I fear that it's gonna break the very fabric of our society in the coming decades .



Law favour women more , itna ke women have started taking advantage of it. Yes our legal system is messed up . Women's rights r protected, but to enforce them is the duty of the law but the law takes years and years and nobody really want to get into it. Divorce laws favour women more than men.



More and more girls are getting educated , and working , at least in cities you will see that women are taking up all kinds of jobs. Whether it's my maid or any laborer, they send their kids to school. Divorce rate is at an all time high . Women are now more economically independent , more than ever before..its years and years of suppression, it will take time to get out of it .



as for suffering in silence in marriage , the current generation doesn't. Don't take anupama as the benchmark , these shows r what they used to be 30 yrs back 😆Now women like anupama are like role model for some bec they know it's impossible to be like her.


As for brothers and fathers taking a decision, I haven't seen it around me , in my extended family, or anyone except in the remote villages perhaps and remote villages itself r a thing of past with rapid development...not all fathers and brothers are unsupportive , it's a very generic statement to be made ... some are really very supportive , in general daughters are closer to their fathers than their moms.



Yes , there are a few things which are ingrained in us . I won't go into Indian vs western debate . There r a pros and cons of both . All I can say is , as parents it's our responsibility to empower our children so that they are independent , mature beings , better than our generation. Not turn out worse than us with the given freedom(which is happening alongside sadly )



Lastly I would like to add that I don't find anuj kapadia appealing . All that he does is be a puppy to anupama ..he is the other extreme. Blind faith is as dangerous as no trust ... He can have a voice and he can tell anupama that she is wrong sometimes. It's not ok to put someone on a pedestal as high as this . Anupama loves toxicity in the name of love . Anyone supporting her will fall to her level for me.


Ps I don't watch the show but I have an idea abt the story from the forum. That's why I reply only in the generic topics


You are saying right that education is making girls and boys too bolder


Many from villages and small towns come to big city like Bangalore or mumbai or delhi for studies and they never go back to their houses in village or smaller cities. They study and work in cities and marry here only someone and never bother about aged parents or poor siblings who helped fulfill their dreams. But this is not high percentage of people hardly 5% of india. How many study college hardly 4 to 5%? Out of that hardly 0.5% go to big cities for studies as most cannot afford living in big city for 5 years to study college.


But we are talking of rest 95% people that i talked off above. Rest 95% are not graduate or engineering or doctor in india and do not have access to money or education or big earning jobs. I am talking of those daughters and sisters not pakhi types.


Woman still suffer in marriage. I have seen girls done BE working in IT company earning lakhs being troubled more worst than anupama. Educated husband raise hands of highly educated and lakhs earning wife for not cooking on time or ironing clothes etc. And these are born in 1990s or later in their 20s.


What you say that no one suffers is 10% of india rest 90% will suffer only. Even most educated and lakhs earning girl do not get family and society support. Divorce is taboo and kids put bhedi in their leg. This happens in biggest cities. In upper class rich society to middle class too. Very few revolt like anupama even today.

Edited by myviewprem - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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All i can say is pakhi is spolit brat. Too much pampering makes her entitled. She reminds me of this bollywood entitled heroines of today generation. But still some times she ask correct things which no one ask vanraj and anupama or anuj.


Like vanraj who has guts to ask him why hes doing love affairs one after another all life even in 50s first college GF than kavya than anupama who knows next another? Does bapuji have guts no does Baa ahave guts no and anupama shes a useless spineless woman and wife so far. All her guts is for kapadias and anuj kapadia and Mukku.


But Pakhi showed guts to show mirror to vanraj i am happy. Vanraj ego hurt first time by a family member who used to dance to his tunes blindly. Whta toshu and samr should have done is done by pakhi question her papas emas?


Reagrding her liking adhik, in young age you look how rich a boy is,, what car or bike he owns and looks.


But as you become 25 to 30 years you see his education and salary and marry him


By 40 to 50 plus its character that matters more than money or bungalow or designation


Thats how life is


Pakhi is no different


Why does world love salman and amir and SRK all super brats super GF beaters and wife cheaters and cunning lying people. For looks and dressing and talking style. Thats what all 13 to 30 year old like. Its not pakhi fault all girlls till 30 are similar as pakhi


For woman look at heroines you will know what boys of 13 to 30 like.

Edited by myviewprem - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem




But we are talking of rest 95% people that i talked off above. Rest 95% are not graduate or engineering or doctor in india and do not have access to money or education or big earning jobs. I am talking of those daughters and sisters not pakhi types.


Woman still suffer in marriage. I have seen girls done BE working in IT company earning lakhs being troubled more worst than anupama. Educated husband raise hands of highly educated and lakhs earning wife for not cooking on time or ironing clothes etc. And these are born in 1990s or later in their 20s.


What you say that no one suffers is 10% of india rest 90% will suffer only. Even most educated and lakhs earning girl do not get family and society support. Divorce is taboo and kids put bhedi in their leg. This happens in biggest cities. In upper class rich society to middle class too. Very few revolt like anupama even today.


See I was trying to say, let's not generalize things to this extent. I didn't say no one suffers ..90% of the girls suffer is again generalizing. What I am trying to say is that there r issues in our Indian society bec of generations of poverty , subjugation and preconceived notions against women , it is getting better with time .. it won't go away magically .



Firstly, the percentage of literate population specially girl population is increasing rapidly.. doesn't mean everyone has to be engineer or doctors or IT professionals or mba's. We r a huge workforce with a wide variety of skills ..in cities , the maids r earning equal to the entry level MBA. They demand 15 thousand + salary....a daily wage worker gets 600-700bucks per day.. During corona there was news of young MBA s starting starting small ventures like chat stall and earning millions out of it...every year the toppers , whether it's schools or cat or neet or upsc, girls are the toppers. I am sure this was not possible without the parents encouraging their daughters.


The scene in rural india may be different but with so much advancement in technology and awareness.programmes for education , people do encourage girls to study and govt is giving free education. I have a farm house in himchal, in a very remote village , there r 2 govt schools and all children of that village attend the school.



Slowly as the villages r turning into micro towns , employment is being generated specially for the girl child... Whatever projects govt undertakes in the remote areas , they provide employment to the local population.



This doesn't mean women are not expoilted ..whether it's rich households or villages , it's a common issue.


Coming to the most imp issue of suffering in marriage. Marriage itself is a suffering for many . That's why today's generation are reluctant to get married..whether it's the in laws problem or its the abuse problem or its economic problem (girls unable to move out as they r dependent on husband ), unhappy marriages, there r plenty of them .. I am sure there must be a lot of issues with the western developed societies too.



But let's just ponder upon it..what's the alternative to marriage ? No marriage no kids fine..what do we basically live for ? Earn money , spend it on parties or drugs sex traveling , basically ourselves.. buy the best of clothes car and house , there will still be a need for someone who we love and who loves us. throw away the parents as they r a burden.. throw away the kids as we need not take their responsibility or they think thy need no interference in their life . Husband wife anyways can't live happily together ..joint families r a thing of past. So basically it leaves us with nobody . And then they start taking anti depressants bec they r lonely, bec life is boring , bec there is nothing to live for? There r also good ppl aisa nai hai the whole world is full of jerks, not great like anuj kapadia but there r .



I dislike anupama for several reasons but there is one thing in her which I find very impressive . Whatever the life's situation was , she faced it with a smile ...this aspect of hers, all women relate to....relationships need compromise but in her case it turned into exploitation , this is where she should have drawn the line but she didn't....Doesnt mean all relationships r like that..

Edited by Krinya - 3 years ago

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