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Was Zaroon an out and out chauvinist is the most debated tooic I have read on docial nedia including this forum. I have a friend who was so touchy about him being called chauvinist. I dont think he was a hardcore chauvinist, atleast not as portrayed in the drama. May be the novel showed much darker version of Zaroon which I am thankful I am not aware of.

Originally posted by: RockChicGirl

Very true about both points. I liked how Zaroon handled the saas-bahu friction. Never let it get out of hand. To Sara...he said what he did for her own good. To be fair to Ghazala she was herself a very fair woman. Realized her misses and tried to rectify them. Also appreciated Kashaf whole heartedly later for the way she handled her life.

I think Zaroon's family felt he was chauvinistic and would have problems in his marital life due to the person what Junaid was and also because of his breakup with Asmara. Zaroon himself was also apprehensive about the same. But I think with age and experience he was mature enough to handle his problems albeit with a little guidance from Junaid/Abrar.

Originally posted by: pinkeye

Was Zaroon an out and out chauvinist is the most debated tooic I have read on docial nedia including this forum. I have a friend who was so touchy about him being called chauvinist. I dont think he was a hardcore chauvinist, atleast not as portrayed in the drama. May be the novel showed much darker version of Zaroon which I am thankful I am not aware of.

Gender bias was the undertone of zindagi gulzar hai. Thus every character somehow was related with it in some way or the other. Few characters manifested it whereas few others were victimised or questioning it all the time. Zaroon was no different too. I guess it was to reflect society that how men still perceive women and think their shoukd be certain limitations how do they behave, how do they conduct, how do they dress, how do they should take a relationship or homes to make it better. Its that societal pre conceived notions which was expected , contradicted and people's thoughts transforming acc yo that.

Yes Zaroon type of men are pre dominant in the society who actually pinpoints how women should behave in contrast to man as that is naturally expected from her. I guess to some extent, it was because he cared for these women, was scared of their security and always feared unstabilty at home as he was in belief ots only the woman who makes a perfect home. Though i never understood that liberated attitude Ghazala, Sara and Asmara used to flaunt as I thought it only hurt their loved ones and they were least bothered about it, I think they were not wrong from their stand too. It was their choice to live like that, may be its does not suit ideal, perfect woman of society or the men surrounding them but that does not mean their life will only be full of unhappiness, taunts and blame game. I did not like the fact that it was in a way preached that Ghazala was wrong and Sara suffered only because of her liberated , independent sense of living. Her relationship primarily broken due to communication gap, lack of judgement and constant provocation from Ghazala who made I a prestige issue. Her later realising it only preached sexist attitude that eomen should be fullfilling certain criteria to be a perfect, ideal one to men to live a happy life. It was too much for me to figest as I feel fierce sense of independence as a woman is not only mean unpleasing a man and breaking societal norms. Is it nt normakl in society or the bitter truth? Yes it is but does that make it right or justified? I dnt think so.


Sorry no offence intended to any fans.

Originally posted by: pinkeye

Gender bias was the undertone of zindagi gulzar hai. Thus every character somehow was related with it in some way or the other. Few characters manifested it whereas few others were victimised or questioning it all the time. Zaroon was no different too. I guess it was to reflect society that how men still perceive women and think their shoukd be certain limitations how do they behave, how do they conduct, how do they dress, how do they should take a relationship or homes to make it better. Its that societal pre conceived notions which was expected , contradicted and people's thoughts transforming acc yo that.

Yes Zaroon type of men are pre dominant in the society who actually pinpoints how women should behave in contrast to man as that is naturally expected from her. I guess to some ectent, it was because he cared for these women, was scared of their security and always feared unstabilty at home as he was in belief ots only the woman who makes a perfect home. Though i never understood ehat liberated attitude Ghazala, Sara and Asmara used to flaunt as I thought it only hurt their loved ones and they wrre leadt bothered about it, I think they were not wrong from their stand yoo. It was their choice to live like that, may be its foes not suit ideal, perfect woman of society or the men surrounding them but that does not mean their life will only be only full of unhappiness, taunts and blame game. I did not like the fact that it was in a way preached that Ghazala was wrong and Sara suffered only because of her liberated , independent sense of living. Her relationship primarily broken due to communication gap, lack of judgement and constant provocation from Ghazala who made I a prestige issue. Her later realising it only preached sexist attitude that eomen should be fullfilling certain criteria to be a perfect, ideal one to men to live a happy life. It was too much for me to figest as I feel fierce sense of independence as a woman is not only mean unpleasing a man and breaking societal norms.

Sorry no offence intended to any fans.

i think sara did not suffer becos of her independent ways, but because she failed to be that side of the coin where adjustments were needed. In a marriage you just cannot expect it to be the same like how was in ur dad's home, i can sleep till 5pm in my father's home, nobody would dare to tell anything to me, but when i go to mu sasural, obviously my mom keeps telling me that my such ways will end up me in trouble. thats the basic idea, one needs to change the idea of being in a marriage. Zaroon did that thankfully, he knew in his marriage he was the one to be the more responsible one because of kashaf's complexes, and he tried his best. sara did not try , and it definitely was her fault.

Yes women not only compromise , men also do to sustain relationship, stabilty at home and keep on going with life to orovide the children the security was also portrayed in the show by two main male characters who dealt with these 3 women primarily and either blamed them them or questioned them. Both Juaid and Zaroon were compromising men to make their marriage wrk and never go out of control to make the life a mess. Junaid just gave the silent support to Ghazala, nt getting bothered much to keep home together whereas Zaroon showed utmost patience and petseverance to deal with insecurities of kashaf and made her feel more belonged to some one which she craved for. Both gt married to independent women only but still afjusted accordingly as the relationship was more important to them. But inSara, Asmara and Ghazala case they gave relationship zero value and thus was mostly insensitive to people who actually wanted them to realise os sense of independenxe does not mean discarding relationship compketely, as one us intellectual demand , other was emotinal demands. I thought this conflict was shown too black and white manner , a direct cut right or wrong yo justfy few things, glorify female protagonist in a way and celebrating gender bias actually. I did not like that.

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

i think sara did not suffer becos of her independent ways, but because she failed to be that side of the coin where adjustments were needed. In a marriage you just cannot expect it to be the same like how was in ur dad's home, i can sleep till 5pm in my father's home, nobody would dare to tell anything to me, but when i go to mu sasural, obviously my mom keeps telling me that my such ways will end up me in trouble. thats the basic idea, one needs to change the idea of being in a marriage. Zaroon did that thankfully, he knew in his marriage he was the one to be the more responsible one because of kashaf's complexes, and he tried his best. sara did not try , and it definitely was her fault.

Sundas thats exactky what I tokd that her martiage falling apart was combination of many factors, but it was shown in a way that as she was that much uncompromisingly liberal wanting to lice her life the way she wants, thats why she fid not fit the perfect ideal woman norm of society which is a very biased view imo. She did not gave enough effort yo mk the marriage wrk and gave up easily, thus it did not sustain. Later she said she would adjust in every thing , conservative household by giving the message that she was wrong in having a liberal attitude, isnt that inappropriate to show? She wanted to move on and wanted not yo repeat old mustakes, wanted to be more accomodatibg, fair enough, that should be the spirit, but compketely changing as per societal norms to find happiness was little off for my taste.