Parallels of episode 80 and 136 - Kuku vs Mishbir rishta - Page 3

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Read the first part in the morning, now replying , although I remember bade Papa asking questions to Kunal too but not able to recall the entire incident ...so thank you for giving us this parellel posts, just helps to understand BP better

Loved how you pointed out the balloon symbolisim and abir's change of body language in both the situations

You are an amazing observer nandu 🤗👏... someone just asked me in the forum about how bade Papa agreed in one day for mishbir , I guess I will have to recommend this thread to her !

Lovely !

Aww thankyou is such a small word for all your lovely comments and praises ❤️🤗 But still, thankyou very much! xx

@bold: oh wow! what a coincidence 😃 hahah sure, hope my thread makes some sense to help them understand a little better 👍🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Aww thankyou is such a small word for all your lovely comments and praises ❤️🤗 But still, thankyou very much! xx

@bold: oh wow! what a coincidence 😃 hahah sure, hope my thread makes some sense to help them understand a little better 👍🏼

You are very sweet Nandu 🤗❤️

Haha, yes , I have already recommend this thread to her😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Thankyou very much. Love reading your responses too ❤️🤗

Yes I do agree with you, that Abir often doesn't realise how much he covers up for Kunal. We know he's just looking out for him, especially knowing that Kunal doesn't do well in relationship matters. But at the same time (like you said too), there is only so much Abir can talk for Kunal, after a point it is Kunal himself who needs to step up, take responsibility and manage his own relationships.

If I remember right , during the champaner track, even Abir says something on the lines of "bhai ke liye class me proxy dhe sakte hai, par rishton me nahi" - when he explains to mishti why he helped out in the courtship. So Abir knows he cannot do everything for Kunal when it comes to relationships, but out of his long-term responsibility and love (as fatherly-figure), Abir feels the need to spoon-feed Kunal and teach him how to deal with people's emotions.

xx thankyou once again (from the bottom of my ❤️), for your lovely inputs and replies. Really enjoy discussing such details with you 😃

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exactly... he is taking the babysitting a bit seriously.. and this gives opportunity to kunal to do mistake n get away with it easily.. yaa as a brother he can help but should let kunal take up responsibility for his words else tomorrow everyone will question him only not kunal for kunals mistake..

ooh ha i somewhat remember this dialogue.. he always tells kunal too to think n take decision on own,..

🤗 me too loving it nandu... hope we can have more of such discussions.. thank you so much dear sometimes my replies can be long so for bearing with it thanks dear.. 🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago
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wow my favorite part.. but like you said seriously very complicated.. but gonna enjoy reading it... 🤗

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Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Part 3: Kuhu, Kunal and rishtas

A/N: This is such a complicated relationship, and the couple have dug themselves such a long, deep, dark rabbit hole that it’s going to take an extensively big redemption story, to get them back on the right track and avoid from falling into a grave .There are many layers and backstories to these characters, hence this section is definitely not enough for them.

very true nandu they have lot of layers as an individual n also in their relationship.. cant even guess their redemption..

Back to ep80 – BP questions Kunal [“Kya aap Kuku ko pasandh karte hai?”];Unlike Abir in ep136, Kunal’s answer here is quite vague and cleverly covers up his real intentions. Instead of expressing his feelings about Kuhu and whether he has whole-heartedly accepted her for who she is and ready for the rishta, he simply says [“Haan, uncle.”] then declares he would do the same for Abir, as Kuhu hid her feelings when the rishta changed to Mishti.

i think bade papa guessed the rounded answer either family or single word answer.. maybe thats one of the reason BP didnt give his consent immediately.. even kuhu expressed her love when bp asked her.. kunal was very much silent most of the time..

All that runs in Kunal’s mind before he answers BP, is the fact that Mishti rejected him and now fears that Abir is falling in love with her (falling in to her ‘trap.’), not even one thought or feeling in regards to Kuhu crosses his mind. His entire reason to accept this rishta is on the basis of him ‘protecting’ his brother, and his ‘love’ for Abir. At this stage, Kunal still thinks of Kuhu as friend, although Kuhu is head over heels for Kunal, neither of them know each other well enough to even say they are best friends, let alone companions. Their rishta has been built on severely unstable foundations and pillars of one-sided love and illogical hatred. Over the course of Kuku’s rishta, a multitude of misunderstandings and miscommunications have piled on, which has led to both Kuhu and Kunal’s dark, convoluted and complicated behaviours.

best described nandu...👏👏 you have put it perfectly.... couldnt agree more.. 👍🏼

very true that kunal never once thought of kuhu before answering... even once mishti asked that whether kuhu knew kunal enough to get married to him but kuhu didnt take it seriously... only now she is trying to understand kunal like she herself said..

one thing i want to say... that time abhir n mishti did most of the talking in convincing family... maybe they should've encouraged kuhu n kunal to talk n let them handle it on own n jus supported them..

I know I’m side-tracking a little but, hear me out.. even in the following episode (#81), when Meenu asks Kunal to swear on her, if he has fallen in love with Kuku -> Kunal’s complexity can clearly be seen [“Kuhu buriladki nahi hain..phir bhi main uski saath galat kar raha hu…bas isi baat ke mann me regret hai, guilt hai.] Abir’s Nanko is still living in Kunal here, he even asks Meenakhshi, “why couldn’t they directly ask the Maheswari family to keep Mishti away from Abir. He questions his own mother, [“mein ye shaadi ke drama kyu kar raha hu?...Kuhu ko hurt karne ki kya zararut thi?”] The nanko in ep 81 – still had some control over his mind to be able to realise what he’s doing his wrong and correctly question his mother. But then Kunal himself partly answers his own question with -

[“mein realise kiya ki apne bhai ko Mishti se bachane ke liye, agar mein bura bhi bana padega, tho bhi mein piche nahi hatunga.”]

And this is Kunal/Nanko says the exact same thing to Abir in Mumbai during the brother’s confrontation -

[“Vo ek rishta jis ke liye mein sabse bura ban sakta hu, aur sabse accha ban sakta hu..]”

Kunal has simply not understood the true meaning of love, whether it be between brothers, between friends or between lovers. Instead, Kunal has now attached himself so tightly to his ego and hatred for Mishti, that he isn’t able to see that he is still playing and badly hurting Kuhu’s feelings by acting to fall in love with her – he has lost complete control over his mind to rationally think.

absolutely rite nandu.. all of his thoughts are about abhir only... when meenu asked to swear he didnt hesistate to deny.. and hesaid he did feel guilty n bad for doing this with kuhu.. you perfectly pointed his words then n now regarding this guilt... he cant see anything beyond abhir... really cant understand this obsession...

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Back to episode Ep 136; as we all know was simply all about Abir’s beautiful and thoughtful replies, which were all praiseworthy of Mishti’s unique and pure personality, along with BP/BM righteous parenting.

When it comes to relationships, just like Abir mentions in ep136 –

[“ek rishte ki door un do haathon me hoti hai, jin do haathon me un rishte ki lakhir hoti hai.”]

Similarly, mishti also reminds everyone in ep80 –

[“khabi kahbi families bhi bhul jaate ki, ek rishte sirf do families kebeech nahi hoti par do logon ki beech bhi hota hai.”]

wow never though this parallel nanu... niceeeee 👏👍🏼

Both Mishti and Abir perfectly remind us and their families, that although they fought hard and encouraged to bring Kuhu and Kunal’s rishta together, the families need to remember that ultimately the stability and longevity of the relationship relies in only Kuhu and Kunal’s hands. If Kuhu and Kunal truly love and care for one another, then nothing external even Abir and Mishti’s relationship should shake or break Kuku apart. But as we obviously know, Kuku's relationship was not built on love at all, and frankly neither Kuhu or Kunal are putting genuine efforts to stay together. Obviously because Kunal doesn't like Kuhu. Yes Kuhu claims she loves kunal, yes she claims she is doing everything to save her marriage, or at least for the sake of Kunal, however Kuhu's comprehension of love is also equally if not more distorted. If she spent even half the amount time and effort she took break/ruin mishbir, on trying understand Kunal; maybe she could have made some progress in at least being Kunal's friend, if not a life partner.

very well described nandu... cant think of adding more.. you said everything perfectly... actually their relationship is very complicated and they themselves are have many shades n keep oscillating so its really difficult to analyse them... but you have done pure justice in analyzing them... best yaara... 👏🤗

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Finally done with part 3. Thank you soo much for your support everyone, glad you're liking my writing and opinions . Do continue to comment and share your thoughts. Sorry for rambling a little off-track here - Kunal's character is just so complicated that it cannot be analysed or compared with just one scene or episode. xx

yaar do bring in other episode parts too if needed this makes it more appealing to read and understand.. but you have done ur best nandu... lotzz of love n applauds ❤️❤️👏👏

P.S I have even more immense respect for anyone and everyone who regularly make updates and post special stories here on IF - it truly does take up a lot of time and effort 👏

I will try to update part 4 as soon as I can. Stay tuned xx ❤️

waiting dear...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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This is a wonderful post! 👏 all the parallels were so beautifully highlighted. Plus some of the parallels were brought out to the spotlight only after reading your posts. Its so easy to overlook such amazing details.

Please continue with this post. Would love to read the rest of the parallels.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Thank you so much. This post was really needed for people who thought that BP is being impartial to Mishbir. BP had given KUKU a fair chance to than why wouldn't he give one to Mishbir. I just love his character one of the best father figures in ITV ever.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Firstly, I would like to thank everyone for such an overwhelmingly amazing response ❤️🤗 I don't know how to respond to all of your lovely compliments and thank you to everyone's great insightful comments as well. Special appreciation to the silent readers too.

Secondly, I apologise for the delay in the 4th instalment of the parallels, I've gotten a little pre-occupied with work and study. Hopefully I should be able to finish and update you guys very soon, appreciate your patience guys

Catch you all later

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: diya_divakar

wow my favorite part.. but like you said seriously very complicated.. but gonna enjoy reading it... 🤗

given my replies in green. 😃

❤️❤️❤️ Thankyou so much! Glad you're liking each part even more than the one before.

This one truly took a lot more time and effort than I thought, Kunal and Kuhu's rishta is so twisted, that I wasn't sure if this small writing piece would do justice to it.

Love reading your comments, I completely agree with you 😃

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitra_rao

This is a wonderful post! 👏 all the parallels were so beautifully highlighted. Plus some of the parallels were brought out to the spotlight only after reading your posts. Its so easy to overlook such amazing details.

Please continue with this post. Would love to read the rest of the parallels.

❤️🤗❤️ Thank you soo much!

Glad to know my writing was making enough sense to bring out some special nuances 😃 The writers have done such amazing content and minute details, it is so easy to call out mistakes and be unhappy with the writing, but they really are giving us such poignant scenes to really get the audience to think and understand the morals 👏👍🏼

Will update as soon as possisble. Stay tuned xx

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Loved loved loved reading part 1....will come back for the rest

Awesome post!

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