Annoying- The Main Leads - Page 6

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

So, a 22-year-old girl was bullied for being "infertile" But still the ounce is on her as the OP Wants" TO prove worth as a woman". Why not?
I mean a person who has been so severely traumatized should proof her worth.

Why should we expect people around her to help her. No. No. That is wrong. Nobody should help her, care for her.

Abhira should proof her worth

Also, she shows love to kids who she thinks are her own is somehow blood boiling because that is such a terrible thing to do.

Also, just because she did not want a kid for 2 years, she has no right to grieve/mourn her kid's loss. SHe should just be ok be with

I understand not liking for Abhira for her excessive Maa or Didi Jaap. Or seeking validation from her bullies. Trust nobody here likes that aspect of her character

But the way you have put everything on Her op tells me that your criticism is anything but objective.

Abhira after going through a major surgery should ask all the write questions instead of more experienced parents in the family

ABhira after being bullied should "proof her worth as a woman"

Abhira has no right to even think about the trauma she might have gone through had her baby died.

Abhira should be okay with her baby's death because she did not even want kids for two years.

There is difference between objective criticism and straight up bashing.

The very reason I made this post, was because I was annoyed on the FL trying to prove her worth and her husband's worth by trying to give birth to a child.

I never said I don't want her to mourn a child's loss. I'd very much like that. That's healthy. Dealing with your own child's death is everybody's right.

But going bonkers, unaccepting- an anticipated result (specially her husband's weakness to handle his wife's outburst), not being able to see a life beyond it,- is something that doesn't fit well with me.

Abhira, as a character has fought hard with everything that was thrown at her. She had called a spade a spade once, but as soon as she became a wife, all she did was try to prove her worth by getting pregnant. And did she get her MIL's approval?

How about she loved this child like a massi/Tai?

The part where you state that she didn't want a child for 2years and now she isn't supposed to cry for a dead baby, that's insane.

I seriously never asked her to walk over her dead child's grave in order to prove her ambition.

I don't know how you got this message.

Plus, if I did talk about the annoyance over the past 3 episodes, it's because of the knowledge I possess about the storyline. It's not because Abhira is under the falsehood that she is a mother now.

But more so, because somewhere her blinded and fierce resolve to be a mother by hook or by crook without thinking about her baby's or her own life added on with an idiotic descion making of her husband to not reveal the truth sooner to his wife is unbelievably unbearable to watch.

If that feels like I am pouring boiling oil on Abhira's character then you are mistaken.

Originally posted by: nancy56

The very reason I made this post, was because I was annoyed on the FL trying to prove her worth and her husband's worth by trying to give birth to a child.

I never said I don't want her to mourn a child's loss. I'd very much like that. That's healthy. Dealing with your own child's death is everybody's right.

But going bonkers, unaccepting- an anticipated result (specially her husband's weakness to handle his wife's outburst), not being able to see a life beyond it,- is something that doesn't fit well with me.

Abhira, as a character has fought hard with everything that was thrown at her. She had called a spade a spade once, but as soon as she became a wife, all she did was try to prove her worth by getting pregnant. And did she get her MIL's approval?

How about she loved this child like a massi/Tai?

The part where you state that she didn't want a child for 2years and now she isn't supposed to cry for a dead baby, that's insane.

I seriously never asked her to walk over her dead child's grave in order to prove her ambition.

I don't know how you got this message.

Plus, if I did talk about the annoyance over the past 3 episodes, it's because of the knowledge I possess about the storyline. It's not because Abhira is under the falsehood that she is a mother now.

But more so, because somewhere her blinded and fierce resolve to be a mother by hook or by crook without thinking about her baby's or her own life added on with an idiotic descion making of her husband to not reveal the truth sooner to his wife is unbelievably unbearable to watch.

If that feels like I am pouring boiling oil on Abhira's character then you are mistaken.

Any person who has so severely bullied for close to an year will loose her self worth.

It's ok if she is not strong or ready to fight everything all the time. It's ok for to be weak.

It's people around her who should help her gain back her self worth.

Just like you will never ask a person who has been shot, to treat themselves. You should not ask a person who has been clearly cornered and traumatized to just up and keep fighting. Because that humanly not possible.

No human being should ever be judged through by such impossible standards.

It's ok If Abhira is not making all the right decisions, because I am sure with little help she will gain get old self back.

But it's ironic how we are never going to blame the likes of Ruhi and Vidya to have broken Abhira so brutally that now she thinks she deserves the treatment she gets.

But will always blame our female character for not behaving like a superwoman all the time.

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Any person who has so severely bullied for close to an year will loose her self worth.

It's ok if she is not strong or ready to fight everything all the time. It's ok for to be weak.

It's people around her who should help her gain back her self worth.

Just like you will never ask a person who has been shot, to treat themselves. You should not ask a person who has been clearly cornered and traumatized to just up and keep fighting. Because that humanly not possible.

No human being should ever be judged through by such impossible standards.

It's ok If Abhira is not making all the right decisions, because I am sure with little help she will gain get old self back.

But it's ironic how we are never going to blame the likes of Ruhi and Vidya to have broken Abhira so brutally that now she thinks she deserves the treatment she gets.

But will always blame our female character for not behaving like a superwoman all the time.

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It's also ironic how you preconceived that I support the likes of Ruhi and Vidya.

These are vile women, who are always having a support system.

It's Abhira who is supposed to stay away and clear her path of these women. Who are they to her? Did they help her grow up?

Then why is she taking their bs?

Why, even after knowing what Ruhi aspires about the future, is she still saying hum dono milke baccha palenge?

It's just too much honestly.

Originally posted by: nancy56

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It's also ironic how you preconceived that I support the likes of Ruhi and Vidya.

These are vile women, who are always having a support system.

It's Abhira who is supposed to stay away and clear her path of these women. Who are they to her? Did they help her grow up?

Then why is she taking their bs?

Why, even after knowing what Ruhi aspires about the future, is she still saying hum dono milke baccha palenge?

It's just too much honestly.

Bhai. I never said that you are supporting woman like Ruhi and Vidya.

My point you lack of perspective, for Abhira s mental health .

It's very easy to say that why is she taking their bs? She should just get up and be a boss lady.

But it's only the person who has been bullies so severely knows that a point comes when all the bullying, that it gets to you. That it breaks self worth .

Abhira is the victim in the situation. It's people around her who are supposed to help and take care of her. To keep likes of Vidya and Ruhi away from from her. To help her gain back her self worth

But it's not your fault. Awareness about mental health is anyway extremely less in our country.

People don't understand that wounds need not always be physical. They can be mental too

Our mental wounds deserves to be treated as carefully as physically ones

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Bhai. I never said that you are supporting woman like Ruhi and Vidya.

My point you lack of perspective, for Abhira s mental health .

It's very easy to say that why is she taking their bs? She should just get up and be a boss lady.

But it's only the person who has been bullies so severely knows that a point comes when all the bullying, that it gets to you. That it breaks self worth .

Abhira is the victim in the situation. It's people around her who are supposed to help and take care of her. To keep likes of Vidya and Ruhi away from from her. To help her gain back her self worth

But it's not your fault. Awareness about mental health is anyway extremely less in our country.

I have been studying medicine for a while now. I am young, and still to take my degree next year, but I can still know what a mental health issue could look like.

For Abhira to over come her mother's death- it will take a lifetime. She was her only support system.

But In case of ITV where her character is being thrown of the ledge, and still bounces and licks almost every character's feet in order to maker her man child husband feel validated by his own relatives is awkward.

For me, like Ruhi, even Abhira needed to go to a therapist.

But yeah, she was all determined to be a lawyer. So she went in with a strong mindset.

and then continued to downspiral- once she actually won a man's heart- who was always ready to make her feel good. But then she is the one who kept reminding him that how he cant sustain without a family.

her obsession with soul sucking poddars is unfounded.

She never was abused as a child.

looked a pretty confrontational young adult.

so idk where all this mental health bs is coming from.

she chose to be bullied by nobodies, when her own husband was pretty rocksolid and always on her side.

So yeah it isn't a mental health issue but a script writer's issue.

Please don't try to put her into that domain.

Originally posted by: nancy56

I have been studying medicine for a while now. I am young, and still to take my degree next year, but I can still know what a mental health issue could look like.

For Abhira to over come her mother's death- it will take a lifetime. She was her only support system.

But In case of ITV where her character is being thrown of the ledge, and still bounces and licks almost every character's feet in order to maker her man child husband feel validated by his own relatives is awkward.

For me, like Ruhi, even Abhira needed to go to a therapist.

But yeah, she was all determined to be a lawyer. So she went in with a strong mindset.

and then continued to downspiral- once she actually won a man's heart- who was always ready to make her feel good. But then she is the one who kept reminding him that how he cant sustain without a family.

her obsession with soul sucking poddars is unfounded.

She never was abused as a child.

looked a pretty confrontational young adult.

so idk where all this mental health bs is coming from.

she chose to be bullied by nobodies, when her own husband was pretty rocksolid and always on her side.

So yeah it isn't a mental health issue but a script writer's issue.

Please don't try to put her into that domain.

I have completely my medical degree. Have also been bullied and gone through a depression.

Trust me, it's not always just child abuse.

Nobody "chooses to bullied". That is such a wrong thing to say and is so triggering.

Ok. You clearly have no idea. So I am just going to stop this conversation.

I can agree that script is largely at fault here

But even real life cases exist where Victim of severe bullying after a point gets convinced that they deserve the treatment they got.

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Bhai. I never said that you are supporting woman like Ruhi and Vidya.

My point you lack of perspective, for Abhira s mental health .

It's very easy to say that why is she taking their bs? She should just get up and be a boss lady.

But it's only the person who has been bullies so severely knows that a point comes when all the bullying, that it gets to you. That it breaks self worth .

Abhira is the victim in the situation. It's people around her who are supposed to help and take care of her. To keep likes of Vidya and Ruhi away from from her. To help her gain back her self worth

But it's not your fault. Awareness about mental health is anyway extremely less in our country.

People don't understand that wounds need not always be physical. They can be mental too

Our mental wounds deserves to be treated as carefully as physically ones

Every character's trauma except Vidya mata's trauma has a reason. Bad parenting, verbal abuse, curses, gaslighting. But choices define people/characters. Right and wrong choices. Abhira not countering Vidya for cursing her and outcasting her for being infertile paved the way for more trauma her way. It was her choice. People mostly can't react but she couldn't even react infront of Armaan. She should've been supported the way most of the women (though not all) are supported in such circumstances by other women or the way her mother/nani were supported by their family and in-laws, but making a choice not to get bullied/cursed is made by a person on his own. For Abhira encouraging Charu was easy but taking stand for her own self was so difficult? Just because the makers are obsessed with biological child, that's why Abhira was dumbed down further, otherwise they would've made her standing up for herself.

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Every character's trauma except Vidya mata's trauma has a reason. Bad parenting, verbal abuse, curses, gaslighting. But choices define people/characters. Right and wrong choices. Abhira not countering Vidya for cursing her and outcasting her for being infertile paved the way for more trauma her way. It was her choice. People mostly can't react but she couldn't even react infront of Armaan. She should've been supported the way most of the women (though not all) are supported in such circumstances by other women or the way her mother/nani were supported by their family and in-laws, but making a choice not to get bullied/cursed is made by a person on his own. For Abhira encouraging Charu was easy but taking stand for her own self was so difficult? Just because the makers are obsessed with biological child, that's why Abhira was dumbed down further, otherwise they would've made her standing up for herself.

Ok. I am sorry but as someone who has been bullied to keep hearing this "A person makes choice to not get bullied" is just so triggering.

Literally nobody"chooses to get bullied "

I am sorry. But being bullies was never my choice. Neither it was Abhira.

I can't take so much of victim shaming. So I am gonna go.

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

I have completely my medical degree. Have also been bullied and gone through a depression.

Trust me, it's not always just child abuse.

Nobody "chooses to bullied". That is such a wrong thing to say and is so triggering.

Ok. You clearly have no idea. So I am just going to stop this conversation.

I can agree that script is largely at fault here

But even real life cases exist where Victim of severe bullying after a point gets convinced that they deserve the treatment they got.

I'm really sorry if my perception has hurt you. But actually discussing real mental health issues on a bogus script is so- awkward.

The character evolution is abberant and I hope you see why I said a few things.

Plus, I am totally not a fan, so yeah, I can come across as dismissive.

Apologies again.

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Ok. I am sorry but as someone who has been bullied to keep hearing this "A person makes choice to not get bullied" is just so triggering.

Literally nobody"chooses to get bullied "

I am sorry. But being bullies was never my choice. Neither it was Abhira.

I can't take so much of victim shaming. So I am gonna go.

Absolutely.

Nobody has a choice to get bullied in certain circumstances. It can be a love relationship or a toxic work environment.

I have seen some relatives bullying my mamma. But she decided to call spade a spade and discard them

So, yeah, you can maybe- sometimes just discard half sisters and Abusive MILs if u have a husband that supports you.

Idk. I say wt I have experienced.