Was Abhimanyu trying to defame Abhinav? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Noorain13

Abhinav had drinking issues is a new one 😂. Drinking occasionally (twice in 7 months) is not termed as drinking issues.

Drinking is a personal choice so can be bad or good depending on the person but Mr. Birla knew he would take him back to a party with kids no? Even if someone considers drinking as something good, it’ll never be “good” in front of kids. Abhinav and Akshara did not know they were brining Abhir to a drunk Abhimanyu yet they were questioned but Abhimanyu will not be questioned for intentionally taking a drunk Abhinav to three kids?

Ak didn't have issues with him getting drunk, she went to bring him home in that state and offered him lemon water in the morning so his drinking was no shock for her or Goenkas. Birlas had a cocktail party after Ak and Abhi's wedding, this is not the show where people get defamed because they were drinking so I don't get what you are trying to tell me, how would anyone defame An when it is a common knowledge and Abhi got drunk a few days ago, did that lead to any kind of defamation? In fact, people supposedly arranged a party to cheer him up. When did they have a narrative that drinking is bad? An drinking is his choice like my mom would say if it was poison, would he drink it just because Abhi asked him to? He is responsible for his own actions, it is his birthday party, his wife and his child, why is Abhi more responsible than an adult who is making his choice? Just because we want to blame Abhi? If someone can't control how much they drink, they have a drinking problem. I know how much food I can eat if I over eat or over imbibe I can't blame my host because he is not aware of my body and my tolerance for alcohol

Originally posted by: Noorain13

How are we even comparing Neil’s situation to this one and even if we do since you brought it up, Neil and Akahara went because help was needed but yahan kon si need thi for Abhimanyu to bring Abhinav to a cliff to get drunk? Was he in need of a drink? Was he sad or distressed? Especially knowing he has to go back to a party with kids?

Adults with kids get drunk all the time and go back home no? That’s what Abhinav was doing. He would have went back to his room because again he didn’t know about the party. Abhir always slept with them and he got drunk previously and went back home that’s not the point, the point is going back to the party lol.

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

Ak didn't have issues with him getting drunk, she went to bring him home in that state and offered him lemon water in the morning so his drinking was no shock for her or Goenkas. Birlas had a cocktail party after Ak and Abhi's wedding, this is not the show where people get defamed because they were drinking so I don't get what you are trying to tell me, how would anyone defame An when it is a common knowledge and Abhi got drunk a few days ago, did that lead to any kind of defamation? In fact, people supposedly arranged a party to cheer him up. When did they have a narrative that drinking is bad? An drinking is his choice like my mom would say if it was poison, would he drink it just because Abhi asked him to? He is responsible for his own actions, it is his birthday party, his wife and his child, why is Abhi more responsible than an adult who is making his choice? Just because we want to blame Abhi? If someone can't control how much they drink, they have a drinking problem. I know how much food I can eat if I over eat or over imbibe I can't blame my host because he is not aware of my body and my tolerance for alcohol

Lol math ain’t mathing here because I’ve already answered your question about drinking not being bad but Abhimanyu knowing he’ll go back to a party with kids can ruin the party.

FYI, Abhinav didn’t know about his surprise party so him drinking a bottle or 10 bottles doesn’t make a difference because he could’ve simply went back to his room.

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising

You didn’t get my point. I am only talking about consent and discretion- not the need. If Neil could decide for himself what he needs to do in that situation then today so can Abhinav - it doesn’t matter what Abhimanyu offered or suggested - Abhinav has his own mind and he agreed to it! Abhimanyu was being shady or not - does not matter when Abhinav himself agreed to drink!!

Okay so let’s put it this way, if Abhinav knew he will be going to a party in the next two hours which had kids in it, would he get drunk?

Originally posted by: Noorain13

Lol math ain’t mathing here because I’ve already answered your question about drinking not being bad but Abhimanyu knowing he’ll go back to a party with kids can ruin the party.

FYI, Abhinav didn’t know about his surprise party so him drinking a bottle or 10 bottles doesn’t make a difference because he could’ve simply went back to his room.

Math isn't mathing because it is logical reasoning. Logic tells me they won't tell us Abhi had any ulterior motives. One can find many ulterior motives behind it like Abhi getting him drunk because he got to know about some shady part of An and wanted to expose him in front of Ak, An was the head of those child traffickers and was behind Ak and Abhi, was taking revenge for his brother going to prison that's why he was trying so hard to build connection with his wife's ex husband, who does that? but again logic tells me this is not true as Jay said he is leaving show on a positive note.

Originally posted by: Noorain13

Okay so let’s put it this way, if Abhinav knew he will be going to a party in the next two hours which had kids in it, would he get drunk?

Originally posted by: Noorain13

Okay so let’s put it this way, if Abhinav knew he will be going to a party in the next two hours which had kids in it, would he get drunk?

Doesn't Abhir sleep on top of An? Kid is clearly too attached to his father would he leave him alone party or no party on his birthday, was he taking his father to some other spot to play with him?

Originally posted by: Noorain13

No literally, poor guy had no intensions to drink by a cliff but will still be held solely responsible for his own death.

That's the sad part. Even for Neil poor guy has no intention to be near the concert area but a part of audience has held him solely responsible for his own death.

For the living in show it's obviously to blame the one who survived. All to complete a cycle of the blames and grief for Abhira.

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

Math isn't mathing because it is logical reasoning. Logic tells me they won't tell us Abhi had any ulterior motives. One can find many ulterior motives behind it like Abhi getting him drunk because he got to know about some shady part of An and wanted to expose him in front of Ak, An was the head of those child traffickers and was behind Ak and Abhi, was taking revenge for his brother going to prison that's why he was trying so hard to build connection with his wife's ex husband, who does that? but again logic tells me this is not true as Jay said he is leaving show on a positive note.

Math is illogical? I had sleepless nights because of math and someone just calling it illogical broke my heart into geometric pieces 😂.

Lol that’s what I’m saying, if he is to be shown not guilty at least make it logical so the math can math 😂.

Originally posted by: Noorain13

Abhinav the adult who didn’t have to go back to the resort if he was that drink or could have went straight to his room which he has mentioned that Akshara will get upset because he was going to go back to her.
Abhimanyu the adult knew he was going to take him back to the party with kids yet took him to a cliff to get drunk. Abhinav wasn’t emotionally distress where if Abhimanyu asked him to stop after a shot and he wouldn’t have stopped. If he was capable enough to dump his cup, he could’ve asked him to stop as well.

Bold above - Abhinav the father knew that his son sleeps with him -as has been shown umpteen number of times, so is he naive to think he is going to get privacy to drink without his son seeing him drunk!! Even if Abhinav didn’t know about the party, he knew his son is with him on the trip!

Yes, infact Abhimanyu suggested Abhinav that probably drinking isn’t a good idea and they should stop, so why didn’t Abhinav stop? 🤔