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Posted: 2 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Naay

Agreed with the faults od Abhimanyu.... I basically think it's lack of communication and assuming things lead to him now finding her for 5-6 months .... Well his mom was hospitalized.... Any child would be taking care of his/her mother.... I still didn't get why didn't she comeback when bade papa went to get her.... It could have solved many things.... Toofani Raat n all would not have happened...

Well i can't say anything anymore after these.... have stopped watching it since last 3/4 episodes because writers have written what they want to.... Because in the end they are the writers....we are just viewers....

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She was also not at her best na, from what I understand with so much of blame going her way, Goenka family blaming her was the last straw that broke her. I think its because of the poor execution from the makers’ side that lead to this situation. They could not really explain both Ak and Abhim’s povs, and rushed things so much. I also sympathise with Ak because she has to bear the brunt of moving on. Its kinda unfair when the female protagonist moves on people go berserk on her and make it feel like she has committed some big punishable offence; whereas when the male protagonist moves on the brunt is on the girl he moves on with because she then becomes the biggest vamp of the century. Also, you are lucky buddy that you left😂, I started watching post it was already a mess
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Posted: 2 years ago
#32

Once again false narratives being spread 😆


Issue is not about Akshara moving on. Issue is that she erased Abhimanyu from his son’s life and still shows no remorse for such a huge injustice. She punished a father for a husband’s mistakes and enjoyed rubbing it in his face that his son calls someone else Papa. Enjoyed taunting him that he’s not worthy of being a father without even giving him a chance to know his own son. THAT is what Akshara is being judged for. Not for moving on.


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Posted: 2 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Naay

Can you explain the meaning of abuse ? Because I am getting a new new version s of what is abuse and toxicity. Well Akshara is also toxic .... With her and her sister/ Goenka family is toxic ( even birla family which people have pointed out a lot ) even when kaira was on track.... What about ruhi ? Her father Neil who is no more well how can people can forget about this. These are things which lead to what it is of now.

Well people aren't accepting that the both male lead and female lead are in wrong and had done their fair share of mistakes. We shouldn't be blind because of one character or just because she is female.

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This is picked up from google since that's difficult to do that on one's own nowadays. But it's comprehensive and I love that.


"Spousal abuse, also referred to as domestic violence or intimate partner violence, is a behavioral cycle that involves emotional, physical, or sexual violence inflicted on an individual in a domestic context, such as cohabitation or marriage. Anyone can be a victim, regardless of race, gender, age, sexual orientation, or economic background.


The consequences of spousal abuse extend beyond perpetrators and victims, affecting their immediate family, friends, and communities. Children witness spousal abuse, neighbors may be pulled into the violence, the abused may withdraw from family and friends, and so on. Spousal abuse goes beyond the walls of any one person’s home.


WHAT IS SPOUSAL ABUSE?

Spousal abuse, a more narrowly defined version of domestic violence, entails a variety of mechanisms employed by one partner to control or manipulate the other partner. One partner may be the sole abuser, or in some cases both partners actively abuse each other in one or more ways. Spousal abuse can be physical, sexual, or psychological in nature.


PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF SPOUSAL ABUSE

Violent relationships usually undergo a cycle that can be difficult to recognize, but has clear psychological effects on the abused partner. It often begins with tension, arguments, threats, and anger. These behaviors and emotions escalate in the relationship and are usually followed by a violent incident that can be physical, emotional, or sexual. Afterward, the abuser will often make attempts to apologize, make excuses, or try to reconcile the relationship. There may be a period of calm, and then the cycle repeats itself. This cycle of abuse often worsens over time and can lead the victim to experience:


Intense fear

Low self-worth

Anxiety

Depression

Withdrawal from family, friends, and relationships outside the home

Posttraumatic stress (PTSD)

Suicidal thoughts and tendencies

Emotional numbing or detachment

Inability to sleep well"


Basically it's WHITE DAY from a psychological point of view and what Akshara went through since then.


People don't throw the word 'abuse' just like that. Treating your miscarrying wife like dirt, with no dignity and letting your family throw her around like a ragdoll and spew absolute filth is ABUSE. On top of that, add more emotional upheaval to all her already scarred psyche by throwing divorce papers at her.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: yellomellow


If we want to get logical than child abuse also exists. Lying to a child about their identity is psychological and emotional abuse. In my field, I have read many studies (mostly on adopted children) that are lied to about their paternity suffering life-long anger, abandonment and attachment issues. Here, he isn't even adopted his birth mother lied to him to fill up photo frames for a man she met on the bus. So, she kept him away from a "toxic" environment to give him life-long trauma and identity crisis at the age of six lol. I'm pretty sure forging a birth certificate is also a crime, but it's ok to commit crimes if you are a mother and your husband is poor.


somebody was putting up the definition of abuse here pl go ahead.


So much for the "abuse" , the child is not facing ANY crisis.... He is just fine with the truth he just discovered, and is curious to know abt his real father...what kind of identify crisis do you think abhir is suffering from "in present" , not in your imagination? Knowing that abhinav is not his father was huge but he took it well.



However , for the question he asked akshara , she felt it's best to not reveal the truth to him at this age and Dr agreed bec he is the villain of that story . Akshara could have painted a really ugly image of his real father if she wanted but she never did it. She even told muskan once to not judge abhimanyu by her experiences..abhir has bonded well with abhim and he's a happy child..so what's with this lying and manipulating ke side effects we are discussing ?

Posted: 2 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: R.G.C

That’s a very idealistic situation to be at of not judging. Just personal feelings maybe, but I think we all judge almost everything around us, thats very human thing to do. Me getting to know my friend’s breakup stories and supporting them, directly means I judged that my friend was right, because I have access to only their side of the story. No matter how much one says, they don’t judge, telling you, nobody is immune to that. Coming to Abhinav being selfish to have a family, thats not being selfish, we all want to have a family. That’s perfectly fine, his insecurities too are reasonable so far, as he has given his 6 years to build this family. He has truly loved Abhir and Akshara, yes the type of relationship they share may not exactly have been of a real husband and wife, but he loved her. So there is expectation attached to that love, and that is expectation is of trust. And yes, truth will come out, nobody is supporting any lie either. As I said, it is completely normal for a mother to feel that her child is too young to know the truth, and wants to wait for the right time, that’s the wisest Akshara has been in the whole show. Personally I see growth in both Ak and Arohi so far, that’s good, because they have learnt from their mistakes. Arohi more, she seems to be one of the best parents in the show currently

Yes but i still feel that akshara should not punish Abhimanyu by depriving his rights as a father....m he may have faults being husband ( due to the circumstances he grew up) ( she has her ego and that anger on Abhimanyu )but he is a good son and father....that's where I want abhinav to make akshara relieve this.... In the end they all want abhir to be happy... They love him..... It takes one proper conversation like responsible adults to sort it out instead of hiding things

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Posted: 2 years ago
#36

Intense fear-


Low self-worth-


Anxiety


Depression


Withdrawal from family, friends, and relationships outside the home- only living for Ruhi unlike marrying the next girl abhi saw


Posttraumatic stress (PTSD)- shaking uncontrollably crying taking pills crying in sleep


Suicidal thoughts and tendencies- got into accident, self loathing that he deserves nothing


Emotional numbing or detachment- during first leap left family to go on trips ignored family calls , forgot his mahadev


Inability to sleep well"- mentioned above



As per this ak is sleeping just fine lmao



Waise what's the ideal age to tell a kid his entire life was a lie. For a mother a kid is always a small baby. Is it 10 yr? 16 yr of puberty? 18 yr of legal age? 21 year of college? 25 yr when he marries? Or 35 when he himself has a kid 🤣🤣🤣 Sharma madam needs to give a timeline

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Posted: 2 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Once again false narratives being spread 😆


Issue is not about Akshara moving on. Issue is that she erased Abhimanyu from his son’s life and still shows no remorse for such a huge injustice. She punished a father for a husband’s mistakes and enjoyed rubbing it in his face that his son calls someone else Papa. Enjoyed taunting him that he’s not worthy of being a father without even giving him a chance to know his own son. THAT is what Akshara is being judged for. Not for moving on.


She hid the truth because she thought Abhim did not want anything to do with her or the child, as he clearly told the same over their last phone call. No, she did not punish him for a husband’s mistakes. Can call it poor writing though that it was not conveyed properly. She wanted things to stay the same, because of fear that Birlas will take her child from her, and later because Abhim also got engaged to Arohi, so that would hurt two kids now. She said hurtful things to him because she was angry at him. Kya gussa hone ka theka bas Abhim ne leke rakha hai? He went through sh*t and in anger punished her, and I won’t complain about his anger, because no doubt losing a brother and kids same day must be devastating, but she was also wronged, and her anger should also be understood. She was angry at him for behaving impulsively, and also afraid of losing her child too
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Posted: 2 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: R.G.C

She hid the truth because she thought Abhim did not want anything to do with her or the child, as he clearly told the same over their last phone call. No, she did not punish him for a husband’s mistakes. Can call it poor writing though that it was not conveyed properly. She wanted things to stay the same, because of fear that Birlas will take her child from her, and later because Abhim also got engaged to Arohi, so that would hurt two kids now. She said hurtful things to him because she was angry at him. Kya gussa hone ka theka bas Abhim ne leke rakha hai? He went through sh*t and in anger punished her, and I won’t complain about his anger, because no doubt losing a brother and kids same day must be devastating, but she was also wronged, and her anger should also be understood. She was angry at him for behaving impulsively, and also afraid of losing her child too


Lol on what planet will anyone believe Abhimanyu wouldn’t want to know he has a son? He was clearly grieving in anger when she called him on the phone. That is her excuse to pretend he didn’t want to be a father to his son? WOW 😆 Kuch bhi.

Gusse mein bakwaas bolne ka theka tab nahin hai when your lies have been caught and you are doubling down on them instead of showing any remorse for being so heartless to a father pining for his son. Didn’t even care that he could have died without knowing that’s his own son he’s feeling a special connection to.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Naay

Yes but i still feel that akshara should not punish Abhimanyu by depriving his rights as a father....m he may have faults being husband ( due to the circumstances he grew up) ( she has her ego and that anger on Abhimanyu )but he is a good son and father....that's where I want abhinav to make akshara relieve this.... In the end they all want abhir to be happy... They love him..... It takes one proper conversation like responsible adults to sort it out instead of hiding things

I don’t think she is trying to punish him, its more like she does not want to give up Abhir, its ITV they make things more dramatic, so co-parenting must be a very boring topic for them to cover. She has acted out in fear, her initially hiding things and not wanting Abhir to be around Abhim, then her not wanting Manjari around Abhir, she has major anxiety issues. Ideally speaking, both Ak-Abhim need therapy, but since its ITV very tough to get that lol. Thats why I loved the show Kuch Rang Pyaar ke, they actually showed all these things in their show, it was very new thing for me to see in ITV
Posted: 2 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: OnTheBlock

This is picked up from google since that's difficult to do that on one's own nowadays. But it's comprehensive and I love that.


"Spousal abuse, also referred to as domestic violence or intimate partner violence, is a behavioral cycle that involves emotional, physical, or sexual violence inflicted on an individual in a domestic context, such as cohabitation or marriage. Anyone can be a victim, regardless of race, gender, age, sexual orientation, or economic background.


The consequences of spousal abuse extend beyond perpetrators and victims, affecting their immediate family, friends, and communities. Children witness spousal abuse, neighbors may be pulled into the violence, the abused may withdraw from family and friends, and so on. Spousal abuse goes beyond the walls of any one person’s home.


WHAT IS SPOUSAL ABUSE?

Spousal abuse, a more narrowly defined version of domestic violence, entails a variety of mechanisms employed by one partner to control or manipulate the other partner. One partner may be the sole abuser, or in some cases both partners actively abuse each other in one or more ways. Spousal abuse can be physical, sexual, or psychological in nature.


PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF SPOUSAL ABUSE

Violent relationships usually undergo a cycle that can be difficult to recognize, but has clear psychological effects on the abused partner. It often begins with tension, arguments, threats, and anger. These behaviors and emotions escalate in the relationship and are usually followed by a violent incident that can be physical, emotional, or sexual. Afterward, the abuser will often make attempts to apologize, make excuses, or try to reconcile the relationship. There may be a period of calm, and then the cycle repeats itself. This cycle of abuse often worsens over time and can lead the victim to experience:


Intense fear

Low self-worth

Anxiety

Depression

Withdrawal from family, friends, and relationships outside the home

Posttraumatic stress (PTSD)

Suicidal thoughts and tendencies

Emotional numbing or detachment

Inability to sleep well"


Basically it's WHITE DAY from a psychological point of view and what Akshara went through since then.


People don't throw the word 'abuse' just like that. Treating your miscarrying wife like dirt, with no dignity and letting your family throw her around like a ragdoll and spew absolute filth is ABUSE. On top of that, add more emotional upheaval to all her already scarred psyche by throwing divorce papers at her.

Well what he did like giving divorce is wrong completely wrong on his part .....there is no denying it.... but His reaction was out of frustration.... ( Not giving an excuse but it's a fact ) If someone loses someone who is very close to them then have these kind of reaction..... He has his mother to look after too ( no matter what his mother did still she is the one apart from akshara and Neil as loved one family)... Both were toxic in that case.... It's his anger which he couldn't control on such devastating day lead to his downfall..... I don't know how anyone will react when they are in his shoes ..... Still i feel abuse is a strong word for him.... For harsh abuse is absolutely apt ....

Well it depends on how everyone views it.... May be to you it does feel the abuse.... For some it isn't.... As this is fictional characters in fictional world real life law doesn't work the same i think ( sab kalpanik hai stated in the beginning of the episodes )

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