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Posted: 3 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

Well you do have indepth knowledge or how a story should move forward. For me everything is at face value. I never went into deep tissue analysis. Call me a trp phank, it is okay. I need a proper narrative. For example Imlie, the back ground story revolves around naxal effected areas but the main theme is step sisters falling in love with the same man. Though Imliya has moved on and the sub tracks are toxic in nature, still 4 lions has done a fabulous job in comparison to DKP.

For me Akshu's vocal chord operation was a nightmare. I ended up watching two and half men for detox.

Somehow I feel Harshad is not able to salvage the poor writing. He did in Bepannaah along with Jennifer. Here he too is faltering. The same goes for Pranali. She was mind blowing as Saudamini

I hope season 2 writers give a good narrative for some of shelf life.

It is a matter of prestige as the previous generations ran for a long time.

Can you share details of the hospital scene in Ek's show? which one has a better screen play


I am not asking ITV to suddenly be solely logical. But even in that narrative that you are currently enjoying the writing has to be somewhat acceptable and matches with the characters to create the cohesion in the story they are trying to portray. You have two leads who have an age gap but are people complaining about that? Or they focusing on the story and chemistry of the leads?


For instance if all the hospital scenes in YRKKH were just them sitting across a desk or in the patient room doing some checkups I would be fine with that. Its the surgery specific episodes (Akshara, Manish, Manjari) that irk me. Cause you need to display some sort of knowledge. If you don't know then don't film it. Manjari surgery was actually okay. It was over acting outside of the surgery that was horrible. HC usually excels in emotional scenes especially when it comes to mothers. But the repeating line "I am an useless son." I just felt you can protray that feeling differently with some nuance and set up the scene differently to make it more impactful. I blame dialogue writers and director.


I don't really watch Yeh Hai Chahatein so I cannot say if the show is actually any good. This happened a bit back after Akshara's surgery episode that some of us on the forum like to refer to as the buttering surgery 😆 But I happened to see a scene where the male had just rescued his daughter and is being transported to the hospital. He gets rushed to the emergency room. He flatlines and you see the doctor tell the nurse with paddles in hand to charge the defibrillator and he uses to get him back. Now, I understand for drama purposes writers were going with the Abhi tells her to breathe and she comes back. And also probably due to censors and what not the crew could not show the defibrillator being used on the FL due to the paddles having to be placed on the FL's chest and I guess filming that up closed maybe considered lewd for the time slot? (I don't know just making an assumption here). Point is for a show that has nothing to do with medical drama could show a scene like that, that makes sense while you have a show where several characters are doctors and run a hospital have nonsense medicial scenes? Comes down to writing and direction.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: borntorule12

He said he found solace in a voice for the first time felt like sukoon . Also he must have liked her because she is really pretty

But I'm sure there must be other pretty, gharelu girls in udaipur with a pleasant voice. If that was the quality he was looking in his ideal partner , he could have searched for it.

How did he label his infatuation as love ?

Sorry but this love in first sight trope isn't convincing. I know a lot of people who feel intense feelings for someone when seeing that person but then these people date for a good amount of time and then term it as love. Attraction and love are different and he kept on projecting his feelings on akshara based on this love at first sight and her few mixed signals. Isn't that odd?

@ red 👏 spot on. There is a difference.

Looks don't last long.

First love is often not love but more an initial attraction which fades away but for the rare few it stays the whole life.

I think for him it did start with her voice (which reminded him of his mum, whose art was stifled).

Her being pretty is a bonus and no doubt attracted him physically. Men are respond more to physical than women.

He got to know her (a bit) realised she is the modern version of his mother.

Wham, he was in love. He saw qualities in her that gave him the reason to decide he was in love.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SundariP


Sorry to jump in, but if they didn't caste as per the story then it's a creative failure in my opinion.

The story is the hero always. Be it movies or show, it's the art of storytelling, and in storytelling you need to keep story as base and create everything else around it.


I for one think there was no relationship development phase for abhira so it lost the charm too soon for me because even i started to watch the show first for harshad and pranali individually, within a week i was in abhira fanclub and in another week i bid goodbye to the show.


@ red, correct, you can have a story and then make your characters but there is also another approach. You can have characters and then you base a story around them. To explore their world, their challenges, development and the conflicts they face..

Most often you don't need a relationship development phase in many shows unless you are writing romance exclusively then yes the development of the relationship is a must in that genre. This YRKKH is a family ensemble show so they are showing Abhira development phase through the story/ subplots and scenes constructed around the theme. Each subplot advances them as a couple and individual.

@ red, aww sorry to hear you're not watching it anymore.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: iheartChai


I am not asking ITV to suddenly be solely logical. But even in that narrative that you are currently enjoying the writing has to be somewhat acceptable and matches with the characters to create the cohesion in the story they are trying to portray. You have two leads who have an age gap but are people complaining about that? Or they focusing on the story and chemistry of the leads?


For instance if all the hospital scenes in YRKKH were just them sitting across a desk or in the patient room doing some checkups I would be fine with that. Its the surgery specific episodes (Akshara, Manish, Manjari) that irk me. Cause you need to display some sort of knowledge. If you don't know then don't film it. Manjari surgery was actually okay. It was over acting outside of the surgery that was horrible. HC usually excels in emotional scenes especially when it comes to mothers. But the repeating line "I am an useless son." I just felt you can protray that feeling differently with some nuance and set up the scene differently to make it more impactful. I blame dialogue writers and director.


I don't really watch Yeh Hai Chahatein so I cannot say if the show is actually any good. This happened a bit back after Akshara's surgery episode that some of us on the forum like to refer to as the buttering surgery 😆 But I happened to see a scene where the male had just rescued his daughter and is being transported to the hospital. He gets rushed to the emergency room. He flatlines and you see the doctor tell the nurse with paddles in hand to charge the defibrillator and he uses to get him back. Now, I understand for drama purposes writers were going with the Abhi tells her to breathe and she comes back. And also probably due to censors and what not the crew could not show the defibrillator being used on the FL due to the paddles having to be placed on the FL's chest and I guess filming that up closed maybe considered lewd for the time slot? (I don't know just making an assumption here). Point is for a show that has nothing to do with medical drama could show a scene like that, that makes sense while you have a show where several characters are doctors and run a hospital have nonsense medicial scenes? Comes down to writing and direction.

The show is mostly catering for a demographic that they depend on for TRP. They take liberties for dramatic purpose, not at all interested in making it genuine. They forget that a lot of viewers are well educated and want a story that makes sense on the surface even if it never goes deep.

I think it is a circular issue...they show this, viewers watch it, they think it's acceptable and so continue, viewers vent yet still watch...and so it continues.😆

I think the other issue is length of time of the shows. It is very short so they only can show the essential scenes which move the story forward and therefore do not bother with showing, for example, an actual true to life medical scene, but just ramp up the drama. Patient goes in due to road accident, yet inexplicably the only damage is to the throat (RTA accident, you can seriously break bones, damage organs😕) so adding the drama, surgeon just demands she breathes, butters her throat with bbq sause and hey presto no one is going to complain or stop watching. The drama quotient is then ramped up, can she speak/sing? the essential trait of the character....so it continues.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

The show is mostly catering for a demographic that they depend on for TRP. They take liberties for dramatic purpose, not at all interested in making it genuine. They forget that a lot of viewers are well educated and want a story that makes sense on the surface even if it never goes deep.

I think it is a circular issue...they show this, viewers watch it, they think it's acceptable and so continue, viewers vent yet still watch...and so it continues.😆

I think the other issue is length of time of the shows. It is very short so they only can show the essential scenes which move the story forward and therefore do not bother with showing, for example, an actual true to life medical scene, but just ramp up the drama. Patient goes in due to road accident, yet inexplicably the only damage is to the throat (RTA accident, you can seriously break bones, damage organs😕) so adding the drama, surgeon just demands she breathes, butters her throat with bbq sause and hey presto no one is going to complain or stop watching. The drama quotient is then ramped up, can she speak/sing? the essential trait of the character....so it continues.


True just that I have seen other shows execute it better even in a short time frame.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: iheartChai


True just that I have seen other shows execute it better even in a short time frame.

Oh yes!👍🏼

The thing is the final decision of what we see on screen is made by an editor, maybe director and maybe a writer. They shoot lot more than we are shown. It is then cut and refined by editor to showcase the story at it's best to ensure it is properly presenting the message they want us to see. Sometimes some scenes shot are never shown.

To me it seems, they have no respect for viewers so show what they want with no connection to the truth...and get away with it.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: borntorule12

Many abhimanyus as in similar personality traits? and this love at first sight thing too? Like can you explain


Yes, the 'abhimanyus' with almost the same traits... and the first one I knew fell in love with a new neighbour while crossing the street and sent his mother with rishta to her place 😂😂 since he was again a surgeon from an affluent family and same community, he was very sure about approval but proposal fell flat as the elder sister already had a huge crush on him. Since she was prettier than her younger one and a professional athlete, she was adamant on getting married to that guy... aur bolo, kitni similarity chahiye😁😁😁... but the surgeon and younger one ran away and got married only to get separated after 10 years and a baby... they had compatibility issues too..🤣🤣🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: atulya1


Yes, the 'abhimanyus' with almost the same traits... and the first one I knew fell in love with a new neighbour while crossing the street and sent his mother with rishta to her place 😂😂 since he was again a surgeon from an affluent family and same community, he was very sure about approval but proposal fell flat as the elder sister already had a huge crush on him. Since she was prettier than her younger one and a professional athlete, she was adamant on getting married to that guy... aur bolo, kitni similarity chahiye😁😁😁... but the surgeon and younger one ran away and got married only to get separated after 10 years and a baby... they had compatibility issues too..🤣🤣🤣

Whatttt! 😂😂😂😂 this is legit funny. So it was love at first sight? I want to know more and please make a seperate thread on this 🐰

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: atulya1


Yes, the 'abhimanyus' with almost the same traits... and the first one I knew fell in love with a new neighbour while crossing the street and sent his mother with rishta to her place 😂😂 since he was again a surgeon from an affluent family and same community, he was very sure about approval but proposal fell flat as the elder sister already had a huge crush on him. Since she was prettier than her younger one and a professional athlete, she was adamant on getting married to that guy... aur bolo, kitni similarity chahiye😁😁😁... but the surgeon and younger one ran away and got married only to get separated after 10 years and a baby... they had compatibility issues too..🤣🤣🤣

Phir kya hua? Curiosity kills the cat.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

Phir kya hua? Curiosity kills the cat.


Phir... surgeon is a bitter loner, has won president's medal for his skill and refuses to see his family. Elder sister sent her proposal again, got badly rebuked and no clue about his wife and son. Senseless decisions, taken in the heat of the moment, nosedive only, at the end of the day.


Let me tell you about one more abhimanyu... this story is close to my heart. One guy, extraordinarily good looking, kind and polite guy, was in love with his bestie right since childhood, a simple girl who's world was sports and studies only and used to keep low profile all the time.. that guy is winner of Many international (bodybuilding) contests too ..is a rich bizman now. Girl's younger sister, like everyone else had a deep liking for him. That guy won't allow any girl on his bike's backseat while at college, everyone knew that. That dodo was too shy to confess and his girl stayed mum for her sister's sake. When the elder one got engaged, only then he blurted out. Younger one felt like dying out of guilt but lovers united after a long wait of 17 years. Now all three are best of friends 😊 and those two are the best couple I have ever seen.. still madly in love..with utmost respect and care for each other.

Moral of the story 😁 keep at it...with patience...

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